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5AM
scott morgan
port talbot, west glamorgan
wales
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hi evry1 im welsh and can play every satch song going. any other welsh peeps out there?
Tue Oct 15 '02 10:50:40 am

PhryDom
Dave
Atlanta, GA
USA
Plays: Guitar (45 years)
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Sorry, but there's a (relatively) long post coming....

EDIT I guess it's longer than I thought - there are two posts coming, and combined they're pretty long......


Edited Tue Oct 15 '02 11:18 am
Tue Oct 15 '02 11:17:22 am

PhryDom
Dave
Atlanta, GA
USA
Plays: Guitar (45 years)
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my attention? I nodded off a few times trying to get to the bottom of the page
Im isn't a word that I know of. Did you mean I'm?
Well done for patting your own back for being a brave little girl.
So, people wanted to "fit in" and that was wrong? More on this shortly.
Poor little "after all" doesn't deserve a capital letter following a full stop?
People are hanged, not hung.
I *think* one commutes to work, not to school.
You shutter at the thought? Most people shudder.
We've seen your misuse of "speaking a peace" before. Please admit you are not "more right" than dictionary.com
Wrongdoings is one word, not two.
You or your friends & family can answer this, but *is* the person being "wronged" (I don't even think it was a comment regarding infidelity in the first place) committed to family? I would like to think so, personally, but I don't know him and so can't categorically state that I know he is.
You "love to fit in with the group"? I thought you thought that was wrong, what with all the inappropriate jokes "the group" "participates" in?
Tue Oct 15 '02 11:19:43 am

michelle

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guitarzbabe, thanks for the apology Twig. I'm sorry you had to see something as horrific as a man getting hanged. I'm sure that left a deep wound in your heart. I understand your wanting to speak out when you see something is wrong, but no one was being "wronged" when you flew into a tizzy. If it would have been anybody else who made the F.L. comment, you would have let it slide and barely remembered it, but I feel that because it was me, you resorted to calling me trampy, rude, and a bully, when in fact, YOU came after me! I would never say anything in a negative way towards the Satriani family, or any other band member. IF you knew me, you would know that. I've learned that no matter what compliment I make towards a band member, be it whatever, you take it as I want to sleep with them, which is incredibly shallow, and comes from YOUR brain, not mine. I would appreciate it if you ignored my posts and stop talking about me to others behind my back. I don't deserve your time. Let it go. I would like to tell you to email me personally if you have a gripe with me, but that offer has come and gone. I really don't want to hear anything more you have to say. Give my regards to Eric. I hope he's doing well.

Hopefully, that's the end of our show. Now somebody pass me the popcorn!

Tue Oct 15 '02 11:19:48 am

PhryDom
Dave
Atlanta, GA
USA
Plays: Guitar (45 years)
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OK, anal pedanticness (pedanticism?!) and smart-arsed needlessness aside (I was just trying to hilight (highlight?) *my* point regarding your earlier spelling and grammar lessons), that's a truly awful story. Very sad and very sick. Yes - these things, and much worse things, have happened, do happen, and probably unfortunately will continue to happen when one encounters people who think they are "better" or "more deserving" or (whatever twisted state of mind they're in) than other people. Often it's singular - maybe your boss thinks you're a prat and won't pay you more money, or maybe you're Julia Roberts being "mistreated" by the shop girls in Beverly Hills, but sadder still I too am appalled when groups of these misguided individuals get together and act their craziness out en masse. Whether it's Ben Laden (yes that was a joke) and his religious differences, opposition to commercialism, "The American Dream(TM)", etc or Adolf Hitler with his blond-haired, blue-eyed "supermen", or "so you're native, so what - we're gonna take most of your land anyway", or "yes masser ahh goan do my bess masser", or idiots wearing pointy white hoods riding around on horseback, it boils down to the same thing. You're absolutely right to hate it. I do too. Losing your rag (sorry, colloquialism) temper with people without backing it up makes you in a way "one of them". A hater. A one-upper. A disapprover. You're right and they're wrong. Your posts today go some way towards... not so much justifying yourself, but helping us to understand your motives. I don't think you're right and I don't think you're wrong - I ain't no judge! You're an individual with, it seems, high (and proper!) moral standards and I can't argue with that. I don't take back anything I said to you, I still feel you owe me an apology (as do a few others here), but hell, the world won't stop turning if I don't get it LOL. It's a long fall from a high horse. Climb down slowly, talk to us, and talk to Joe. Aren't we all here for the same reason after all?

I'm doing what you want - standing up for what I believe in (speaking metaphorically of course!), so please don't condemn me for being like you,

I think I said "live and let live" the other day - I know it doesn't fix anything, it's like putting blinkers on a horse in a way, but sometimes I find I have to do that to just be able to live. And yeah - there are probably grammatical and spelling errors in this post, but please keep em to yourself! My email, if you want it, is in several of my previous posts. Oh, and please don't get me started on animal testing (face getting redder, blood temperature rising.....).

Look after yourself ask if you want our help, the guys here aren't a bad bunch after all!!!!! Again. I'd like to stress that I never read anything about infidelity in the original breakfast cereal post, oh and I hope I haven't royally pissed you off :-D

Now then... Joe - tell us about the Tele on Time Machine!
Tue Oct 15 '02 11:19:57 am

michelle

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ha! A shelly sandwich! LOL!!!! I should have said pass the P.B. instead of the popcorn! LOL!
Tue Oct 15 '02 11:31:21 am

surrealcolor

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Joe is back, finally.

I've been a satch fan since 1988. I was disillusioned by engines of creation. Not only was it $22 (got it the day it was released), it wasn't at all what I liked in Joe's tunes.

I gave up on him for a while, then checked back here a couple days ago and realized he'd released a new album months ago. I listened to the samples and decided it might be worth it. I can say that strange-beauty is the music that made me a satch fan.

Glad you're back, Joe. I understand an artist has to explore. Just don't use an entire album to do it. A couple artistic songs each is fine by me...

Tue Oct 15 '02 11:32:24 am

kalenargex
alex king
odense
denmark
Plays: Guitar (31 years)
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hey all,

dragonchild : ok cool!!.. the scandinavian joe revolution starts now **lol** i'll start the campaign here in odense and you can kick it off in over there in enskede (hvor ligger din hjemmeby henne?)...

the petition to the record companies is a great idea, just be careful with the gun tactic with the public or you might find yourself on aftensnyhederne... :-) and the pictures are reserved only for my wife :-)

clarky : whats the story behind 'talking to stones?'...

cheers...

Tue Oct 15 '02 11:33:32 am

PhryDom
Dave
Atlanta, GA
USA
Plays: Guitar (45 years)
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mmmmmm shelly and pb mmmmmmm 8-D
Tue Oct 15 '02 11:39:14 am

Silmarien
Martina ( Dyer)
London,
GB/PL
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hi all
anyone knows where can I read about Joe's family, his personal life? maybe you can email me something?
thnx
Martina

my email is dyer@interia.pl
Tue Oct 15 '02 11:42:00 am

Silmarien
Martina ( Dyer)
London,
GB/PL
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cryophil - why don't u like EOC? I think it's really cool, one of my favourites, and SBM sounds really strange... but I like it anyway,

hope to c-ya again in Poland some day Joe :)
Tue Oct 15 '02 11:45:32 am

The_crippler

Leicester
England
Plays: Guitar (26 years)
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Clarky - I spoke to Avarice via Instant Messages a few months ago, and he had me convinced that he had written the songs on your IUMA site. I can see now that he was probably lying, but I'm still not convinced you are two different people.
Tue Oct 15 '02 11:47:31 am

PhryDom
Dave
Atlanta, GA
USA
Plays: Guitar (45 years)
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crippler: I thought the same too. Avarice & I emailed a few times, he was supposed to (and did) ask Barry to send me Clarky's video CD, but Clarky and Barry: I'm still waiting!!!!!! I know Barry & Clarky aren't the same person (oh btw Barry is prman here) for a fact, but Avarice's true identity remains a secret, a mystery...like Charlie (he of The Angels)... maybe MoltenLava and ThoseGuys, etc, but I'm pretty sure it's not Clarky.
Tue Oct 15 '02 12:07:03 pm

jblaze1

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Guitarsbabe:This may interest you..I went to a "colored" friends house after work to knock down some brews.Much to my discomfort because of the neighborhood,I walked in & I was confronted by a very racist "Colored" Man whom did not appreciate my presents.I thought I was going to get shot or beat up.My friend spoke out to the man stating that Jblaze is a good friend & is"cool"....As a result,he booted his "brother" out of the house for disrespecting a friend in his home.There where about 5 "colored people there & could have turned into a very ugly situation.But No,they were on my side!...I am now highly respected in that neighborhood.They wave & say hey to someone(a white boy) that is an outsider to their community.My whole point is that there is hope for society.One person can make a difference.But you can't lash out at a person for someone else's injustices or wrong doings.That is what perpetuates Hatred & Violence.Not to mention canceling out what you are trying to do in the first place....I have nothing against you & respect you for your apologies to Michelle.I was not threatening you in any way in my posts to you.Just wanted you to step back & think for a minute.We all lose it sometimes(I have too)& they have forgiven me..We are all one happy family & here at T2J to connect with one another for a cause.Joe's music,Peace,Love & good happiness stuff....Everyone has their opinion,likes & dislikes but we try to get along...Have a nice day:)....jblaze1
Tue Oct 15 '02 12:10:21 pm

dragonchild
Eva Viding
ENSKEDE,
Sweden
Plays: Other (27 years)
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Alex Enskede is right outside Stockholm, some twenty minutes by subway. Since you live in Odense, I suppose you've read all of H C Andersen's fairy tales? LOL I've got four thick volumes at home, a collection of all his works. I used to read them a lot as a child.

Michelle, PhryDom - She's not worth all your efforts. You're doing exactly what she wants and she's probably happy about all the attention she's getting. I understand if you're feeling attacked since she jumped you guys the most, but is it really worth the time and space? She'll never see your point anyway.

Tue Oct 15 '02 12:18:51 pm

PhryDom
Dave
Atlanta, GA
USA
Plays: Guitar (45 years)
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dragonchild: thanks.
Tue Oct 15 '02 12:22:49 pm

Ya Yo Gakk

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GUITARZBABE - when's your next book signing? a sharpie pen scribbled across my monitor should look good...
Tue Oct 15 '02 12:47:11 pm

death cube k

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help!!!!! i am stuck in a rut! how do i get out? clarky got any ideas?

Edited Tue Oct 15 '02 1:21 pm
Tue Oct 15 '02 1:20:41 pm

ovation1
Mikey D in da house
Satch = ZEN
Land Of The Rising Sun
Plays: Guitar
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Good luck Clarky, and I hope Rob can help you out!! I like the pic on his site....Him playing and a kid in front holding his ears to keep em' from bursting! lol....Give em' hell....

Let me bring you up to times guitarzebabe! They are not "colored people"!! Before you talk about how non-prejudice you are, use politically correct English!!

That's my 2cents off to work.... Peace all, /\/\ike

Tue Oct 15 '02 1:31:29 pm

Mr Nick

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clarky..ok dude...one problem with the jam...we aren't in the same part of the country..but..as i said..hopefully i can get into the ACM..i heard you around that part of the country cos you were going to jam wioth master yoda while he was down there... how about Joe's record company? and favoured nations could let you on board....send the bad horsie thing to steve vai and i'm sure he'll be impressed enough to at least send the contract thru the post. :)

big_navy..slick cant be found on any cd...its a bonus track for sbm that hasn't been released...we just have to wait and see what happens to it and where its going to appear.

Tue Oct 15 '02 1:31:58 pm

Number1 Student
Doug McClellan
Port Clinton, OH.
USA
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=913276390 Hey Joe! Or whoever! About pearly, I saw this on ebay. Thought you might wanna look into it. You should be able to look up the item number once you get to the site. Just a hunch! Hope you find it.
Tue Oct 15 '02 1:55:38 pm

Clarky
Paul Clark
plays the organ, going blind
www.paul-clark.com
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Kinger - the Talking to Stones story is about a guy that was hounded so seriously for money by the Child Support Agency [because he and his wife split] that he ended up living in a squalid bed sit whilst his ex-wife and kid [and her new fella] enjoyed a very nice life style at his expence... he was happy to pay for his kid - everything that was needed and some more on top... but the ex + the CSA took it way too far... eventually he couldn't take it and killed himself.... a close pal of mine [Lee CZ] got very upset whilst sitting by his grave shouting at the grave stone mad as hell... "why did you bottle it all up inside... why did you not talk to us.... we would have listened.. would have helped... you bastard..".. and then the rage stopped and he just felt totally gutted....... The track tries to capture the futility and sadness of the moment... and the enormous price paid for being to proud to ask for help....
the original version of this song had lyrics and I intended to present it to my band. All of the chord progressions were the same but it was mostly on accoustic... a kind of 'Wish You Were Here' vibe... I taught the band the song but could not bring myself to sing it... it was too disturbing to me... so I changed it into an instrumental....... when I listen to it I shudder.. the power of music in combination with such a tragic event.... maybe one day I'll play it live....


crippler - VBIL / Avarice is a drummer.... can't play a note on the guitar... which is why he found his experiment on y'all even funnier than it was... what you are convinced of bothers me not... I'm tired of having to explain my involvement in this prank... I no longer care...
phryg dom - Barry [prman] is a very close pal of mine... up until a few months ago we used to live a few miles appart... now it is more like 100... Barry was with me at Jemfest the other weekend... he's been very busy of late [right now he is in Japan]... mail him and gently remind him that you are still pretty interested in getting a copy of the CD.. I'm sure that he's just forgot all about it [and knowing what he's had to do in the last 6 months it comes as no surprise].. he most likely gladly oblige...

I know who Avarice/VBIL is... and he's quite a guy... he's a bit of a genius type.. very clever but with a crazy streak... and I made a promise to him to reveal nothing... it is a promise so I'll keep it... he is not those guys / molten lava etc... I know where that comes from too... think of that as an 'anti-Avarice'... old news these days.... nuff sed... time to move on


death cube - what is the nature of your rut... explain and I'll find a way out fo you....
Tue Oct 15 '02 2:04:29 pm

nenabella

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How can I get Joe's autograph??
Tue Oct 15 '02 2:31:31 pm

jblaze1

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Ovation1:I thought "Colored" was correct.If not,What is politically correct?...NAACP stands for National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.What is good for them is good for me:)..jblaze1

Edited Tue Oct 15 '02 3:40 pm
Tue Oct 15 '02 2:57:14 pm

curcio
Mark Curcio
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Hi joe, I just got into your music from my girlfriend's dad, who probably is the biggest fan of yours that i know to date. Anyway, his 50th birthday is coming up on Oct. 15th, 2002. And me and my gf don't know what to get him. Since he loves your music and stuff, I was wondering if you could plan something in the future to call him and talk to him to wish him a happy birthday or meet him sometime and jam on the guitar. He plays the guitar also and he is rather good. We went to your's and dream theater's concert when you guys came to pittsburgh and you should've seen the smile on his face. I know this would make his 50th really special if you could do this. If you can't, I understand, I mean, I'm just a 16 year old fan from Pittsburgh. But, if you could let me know somehow that would be great. Thanks for reading this and hopefully you can make his big 5-0 special. Your fan, Mark
Tue Oct 15 '02 2:58:50 pm
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