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PhryDom
Dave
Atlanta, GA
USA
Plays: Guitar (45 years)
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Clarky and other cack-handers: the left hand neck blank is now up. Some of you probably won't need one, but I REALLY could have done with one (a lefty one) 20 odd years ago!!!!

XCPX: glad it helped! Yeah, print one at school, photocopy it a million times and get a highlighter. You can use these things for all sorts of things!

Naty: new camera? Cool! Glad you're still alive! I was worried! That's a nice pic you have there, but I admit I'm no expert. Got any more?

Cheers everyone, this is a cool place indeed.... some blue might be nice though ;-) Dave


Edited Mon Oct 7 '02 12:00 pm
Mon Oct 7 '02 11:58:43 am Set this message as last read

Airdy
Allan Aird
Bristol,
UK
Plays: Guitar (30 years)
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Phrygian Dominant- Yup, those were the notes i was playing....i took a look at the DVD !! Lol! Thx

For the theory posse....i have compiled all of CLARKY'S posts on theory and stuck them into a text file (which took ages! thank god i have a 1mb Broadband Connection!) If anyone wants the text file, e-mail me at -
allanaird@blueyonder.co.uk
and i'll be happy to send it to you!

It aint pretty, but it's got everything !! Lol!

Mon Oct 7 '02 12:07:28 pm Set this message as last read

chocoholic
sharon dzuba
England
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Evening satch fans, it's nearly 8 o'clock Monday night, can't believe the weekend has gone already.

Michelle - Joe can shake his thing at me and shout get up I'm hungry any time he likes, if only. (sighs)

J Blaze - read your mails, had a good laugh, funny stuff. You'll have to forgive me here, I thought you were a fella.

Minushuman- hope your son gets well soon.

Kell - The Young Ones, ha ha they were really funny, got some of their episodes taped somewhere, have you ever seen Rick Mayal in the Blackadder stuff.

Lettuce - just tear it up.

On the subject of cars, Fords are not bad cars, they sometimes have bad drivers though. I loved my XR2, it was bright red and went like shit off a shovel. I'm driving a sluggish Nissan van now, caged out for my dogs don't you know. On the subject of dogs my Sunny Monster is back on track, a mix of SBM, Crystal Planet and The Extremist seems to be doing the trick. Reserve Best in Show on Saturday. Thanks Joe.

LOL Sharon

Mon Oct 7 '02 12:10:01 pm Set this message as last read

ptarvain

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hi there Joe, im from Finland and i like your music alot, I have been playing electric guitar for 8 years now and i have been playing your songs too (if you dont mind) I have been practicing your song called "Ceremony"... because it is pretty easy to play, except those solos of course...hehe :). If you dont mind, I`d like to ask couple of questions from you.... 1. what kind of strings do u most likely use?.... i use 008...Daddario. 2. what do you think about John Petrucci?.... what do u think about progressive style? 3. what kind of album are u going to release next (after strange beautiful music)? 4. so u have been teaching Steve Vai to play, is this true? I saw this in the net, no doubt... hes playing same kind of music like u. 5. are u going to come in Finland some year..maybe? i heard that u have been here.

i would like to buy "additional creations" next because, i like the start of "Turkey Man", i want to practice that. so, thats my message.... may the force be with u and your guitar, Joe.

-ptarvain-

Mon Oct 7 '02 12:23:04 pm Set this message as last read

Mr Nick

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clarky..i haven't been following your theory stuff closely cos i'm ok on it (i still read it though)..but....this postion stuff...position of what exactly?
Mon Oct 7 '02 12:43:56 pm Set this message as last read

Axmanjr
Alex Harris
Las Vegas, NV
USA
Plays: Guitar (27 years)
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Airdy, cool info about the wah wah trick for Flying in a Blue Dream. I was trying to figure out the same thing. I'll have to try it when I get home!
Mon Oct 7 '02 12:45:24 pm Set this message as last read

DTL
Dave Linton
Carlisle, Cumbria
United Kingdom
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Is there any chance whatsoever that the G3 tour with John Petrucci and Steve Vai will manage to tour Europe??By the way, your show in Manchester on the 20th July this year was nothing short of brilliant!
Mon Oct 7 '02 12:56:19 pm Set this message as last read

Derek5150
Derek
Quebec
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I think that this page need more think to be a very great Satriani Page ! First this page dont talk very much of Satriani ! I dont know,at my eyes it doesn't have much info ! But I don't say that this page is bad ! It's the best Satriani page! But....miss something !
Mon Oct 7 '02 1:04:22 pm Set this message as last read

jblaze1

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Chocoholic:No problems:)I am a fella!.My x-girlfriend sent that to me.She just got married.That is why I said " for you Michelle"...I directed it to a woman..lol...You have to admit,Guys think it's funny too.At least I thought it was funny...:)jblaze1 Hi Joe

Edited Mon Oct 7 '02 1:35 pm
Mon Oct 7 '02 1:25:18 pm Set this message as last read

jelly man
Paul Huxley
Guildford, Surrey
England
Plays: Bass (24 years)
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jblaze- i thought it was funny too....

I've really not had much to say here lately... but i'm still here reading everything anyone says.

Are there any jugglers on this page?

Mon Oct 7 '02 1:40:03 pm Set this message as last read

nator

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Joe

We would love to see you in MN! PLEASE consider

Mon Oct 7 '02 2:15:16 pm Set this message as last read

alexandrecaetano
Alexandre Caetano
Caldas da Rainha, Estremadura
Portugal
Plays: Guitar (32 years)
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Hello my dear friend, how are you?? We still miss you in Portugal!! What are you doing?? I'm recording my own cd and you are a great reference (but not a copy :)). Take care, me and my friends are waiting for you, you are fabulous!!! Bye Alex P.S: Good Gig!!
Mon Oct 7 '02 2:34:45 pm Set this message as last read

Silmarien
Martina ( Dyer)
London,
GB/PL
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/i hey Joe I have a question - who are the women in your videos to 'always with me, always with you' and one in 'big bad moon' are they friends of yours? waiting for reply
Mon Oct 7 '02 2:41:34 pm Set this message as last read

McDave

Cook, MN

Plays: Guitar (40 years)
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Hey everyone...

It's ridiculous to think that someone would not know who Joe is. So I propose that every one of us make 10 signs, out of cardboard or whatever, and write in big black letters Joe's name. Go out one evening and put them on light poles for as far as you care to drive. (do I live a boring existance or what)

Anyways, I'd be willing to bet that a small percentage of the people who see them will remember Joe and start listening again, or just listen out of curiosity. And of course, become lifelong fans.

I'd do it just because Joe's music means that much to me....

Mon Oct 7 '02 3:35:16 pm Set this message as last read

Clarky
Paul Clark
plays the organ, going blind
www.paul-clark.com
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Theory posse – ok guys, time for a little change in direction….. we’ll return to more complex chords a little later.. but first I think that it would be good to take a look at minor scales…
So, just like the major scale, the minor scale is composed of 7 notes and therefore 7 intervals.. it can be ‘spelt’:
Tonic, major 2nd [1 tone/2 frets], minor 3rd [1 1/2 tones/3 frets], perfect 4th [2 1/2 tones/5 frets], perfect 5th [3 1/2 tones/7frets], minor 6th [4 tones/8 frets], minor 7th [5 tones/10 frets]
So let’s consider this with a real note for a tonic and calculate the notes for a minor scale.
Tonic = E….. so here goes….
major 2nd is two frets above….. so is it F# or Gb?….. lol … All of the notes have to appear once and in sequence… the letter F comes after E [not G]….. so the 2nd has to be ‘F’ something…. As it is a major 2nd [2 frets] it will be F#……..
the 3rd has to be G something…. As it is a minor 3rd [3 frets above the tonic] it has to be G natural.
by applying this method, you should end up with the scale of Em = E, F#, G, A, B, C, D

Hmmmmm something interesting stands out here……. Notice that the note values that create the scale of Em are the same as those that created the scale of G major [G, A, B, C, D, E, F#] but starting from the 6th degree of the scale…… treat this as a very useful coincidence.

A rule of thumb:- if you go to the 6th degree of a major scale, you’ll find the tonic of its ‘relative minor’ scale…basically – count upwards by 6 notes including the tonic.
‘relative’ because the two scales are related [sharing the same note values]. Consider the major key as the ‘centre key’ which is the ‘birthing place’ for the minor….
and in reverse, you can look at the 3rd degree of a minor scale and find the relative major. [count up 3 notes including the tonic]

Try a few…..
the key of C = C, D, E, F, G, A, B therefore the relative minor key is Am.
the key of E = E, F#, G#, A, B, C#, D#, therefore the relative minor key is C#m.
the key of F = F, G, A, Bb, C, D, E, therefore the relative minor key is Dm [saddest of all keys… lol]

and in reverse
the key of Cm = C, D, Eb, F, G, Ab, Bb therefore the relative major key is Eb.
the key of Bm = B, C#, D, E, F#, G, A therefore the relative major key is D.

The relative minor is also known as the ‘natural minor’

So why does the major and minor sound different if they are related and made of the same notes?????
This is because the intervals between the notes are completely different thereby giving a totally different tonal relationship with the tonic….. this is much easier to see if you look at a major and minor scale side by side but with the same tonic……

the key of Em = E, F#, G, A, B, C, D

the key of E = E, F#, G#, A, B, C#, D#
very different as you can see…….

So what about the chords?????? So the chords that you calculated in the key of G major also apply to Em but their position has now changed in exactly the same way as the notes of the minor scale did…..

The G major scale produced: I = G, II = Am, III = Bm, IV = C, V = D, VI = Em, VII = F#mb5 So the Em scale produces: I = Em, II = F#mb5, III = G, IV = Am, V = Bm, VI = C, VII = D

This also therefore applies to the 7th chords….. in the key of G, chord V7 is D7. D7 is chord VII7 in the key of Em.
when we look at things like modulation techniques [changing key], pitch axis [applying various scales over a common chord] you’ll begin to understand how powerful this little piece of knowledge can be… very cool stuff…

Mon Oct 7 '02 4:03:11 pm Set this message as last read

Clarky
Paul Clark
plays the organ, going blind
www.paul-clark.com
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theory posse - and of course - G-everywhere means that you’ve also been practising the notes of Em…. but from the 3rd position…
so when you get to the 6th position of G-everywhere you can also consider it as the 1st position of Em…..
move all 7 positions up 2 frets from the G to the A and you have both A major and F# minor.
move all 7 positions up 5 frets from the G to C and you have both C major and A minor.

You now have every major and minor scale available from the nut to the top fret… it’s just math and practice..

Mon Oct 7 '02 4:04:04 pm Set this message as last read

Clarky
Paul Clark
plays the organ, going blind
www.paul-clark.com
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XCPX - by moving the 1st postion up to the A and playing it again you actually changed key to A major [shifted the whole thing up two frets].... take a close look at the actual notes you were playing.... 5-7-9 = A, B, C#... C# is note one of the notes in the key of G major.... the fingerings for all 7 positions are all completely different... you have to write down the notes of the G major scale and then find them on the neck [3 notes per string etc]... it takes a whole lot of time and effort but the rewards are huge..... so try again and if you're still stuck just shout.... don't appologise.... we'll stick at it 'till you nail it..... no probz... # : )


phryg dom - no probz bro... some have the knowledge and some don't.... share the wealth.... we can all help out others... very cool...
the neck blank is cool... putting pen to paper... making notes with pics and diags.... this stuff says a thousand words..
Airdy - very cool move... I was thinking of doing something similar to make is easy for folks to go back to older stuff for reference.... top man...
Mr Nick - those are the fingering positions for playing a scale with 3 notes per string [using the G everywhere exercise]..for example G major starting from G.... then starting from A... then B and so on..... there are seven notes so there can only be 7 different fingerings [positions]...

Mon Oct 7 '02 4:34:49 pm Set this message as last read

drafter37
Kevin Graham
Everett, WA
USA
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DAVE Mc-- just do what i do, drive around in your car blasting the hell out of you're Joe cd's, I sit in my truck while my wife goes into the store and play it so loud it echos through the Albertsons parking lot... __________________________________________________

Got my tickets for Nov. 22 in the mail on sat.. wooooohoooo.....................

Mon Oct 7 '02 4:54:37 pm Set this message as last read

Stu Clone
Graham Shackelford
Tacoma, Washington
USA
Plays: Bass (26 years)
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Clarky,
What's so sad about D Aeolian? I'm missing something here...
Mon Oct 7 '02 5:30:49 pm Set this message as last read

Invigor
John B
Regina, Sk
Canada
Plays: Guitar (27 years)
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all minor chords are "sad" sounding

death cube k: bout that js1000 in hastings, it doesn't exist..there's something wrong in the system that says it's there, but it's actually not. I felt like a tool while explaining this to L&M. anyways, Mine's coming from the ibanez plant in a box, never been opened. so it's brand spankin new, never been played before.

Edited Mon Oct 7 '02 5:56 pm

Mon Oct 7 '02 5:55:03 pm Set this message as last read

PhryDom
Dave
Atlanta, GA
USA
Plays: Guitar (45 years)
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allegedly......
Mon Oct 7 '02 5:55:38 pm Set this message as last read

Brandon_Ibanez_350
Brandon Lowe
Americus, Ga
USA
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This is probably a stupid question that is always asked, but if you see this Joe, how can I get better on my guitar? I know basic stuff, basic lead and rythym and all, but I just dont know where to go from here. I listen to your stuff and it is just amazing, I just wanna be able to play really really good. Thanks man -Brandon
Mon Oct 7 '02 7:02:08 pm Set this message as last read

Artanis I
Ben Kenobi
Australia
Plays: Drums (30 years)
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Clarky: that's cool man, I comprende all that, but my question is what is the difference between G and Em keys if it's all the same? How does it make anything different? Does the fact that you play a different note or chord first change it much? (Or am I missing something obvious!)

Akreepish: all minors sound depressing and Dm is the Big Mama Saddy. But I'll leave it to someone else to explain why!!!

Pete: yeah, most of my friends are guitarists or general musicians.

Dave Mc: interesting idea!!! Hmmm...

Zaximus/R6Rocker: Okay, but it still doesn't make grammatical sense. Should it be "I have become Death" or "I am becoming Death" or "I am being Death" or "I am Death"?

ALL YOUR DEATH AM BECOME TO US

BEN

PS Phrygian, are you saying you used to be a lefty?

Edited Mon Oct 7 '02 7:43 pm

Mon Oct 7 '02 7:39:17 pm Set this message as last read

Artanis I
Ben Kenobi
Australia
Plays: Drums (30 years)
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Brandon: apart from the p word, if you know theory (this is a rather large part of it), and you know the notes on the guitar, and you know scales and stuff, and you've developed speed, and you listen to a lot of diverse styles, and you watch a lot of other players, I don't really have any advice at all.

Sorry that I couldn't help you...Ben ;)

Mon Oct 7 '02 7:50:16 pm Set this message as last read

PhryDom
Dave
Atlanta, GA
USA
Plays: Guitar (45 years)
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For Adun: Yeah! And I still am! :-)
Mon Oct 7 '02 7:54:34 pm Set this message as last read
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