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death cube k

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invigor david gilmour uses old hiwatt amps, if you have evr used one you can hear how he gets his tone
Sun Feb 9 '03 3:16:53 pm Set this message as last read

Invigor
John B
Regina, Sk
Canada
Plays: Guitar (27 years)
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cool, another questions..how does joe protect his guitars with all the climate changes they go thru on tour? from like usa to japan to mexico and stuff?
Sun Feb 9 '03 3:20:18 pm Set this message as last read

Clarky
Paul Clark
plays the organ, going blind
www.paul-clark.com
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invigor - without having the luxury of vintage kit a 'Gilmore-like'setting would be to use plenty of compression... set the amp gain so it sounds as though it is just around the point where distortion starts - which means it's 'almost clean' and this adds yet more compression... a nice long reverb and a Strat in the 'neck out-of-phase' pick-up selection.. the eq you'll need to mess with yourself though as that's down to your amp / speaker set up....

For the sweet clean tone with the great sustain on Shine On You Crazy Diamond, someone told me that he used a 50's Les Paul with 'soap-bars' and the neck pick-up selected.. i don't know if there is any truth in this tho....

Sun Feb 9 '03 3:33:30 pm Set this message as last read

anuj

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yep, gilmour .. vintage strat thru hiwatt 100 heads clean turned way the heck up.

way the heck up is important, cause thos amps sound pretty bad at normal volumes ;-) NO sustain at all, haha. well, IME anyway.

shine on doesn't SOUND like a LP, but given how little gilmour cares aobut processing his tone .. who knows :)

re: signature models .. i dunno, fine whatever works best for you, signature model or not .. but always stay open to other possibilities. my jem really is the slickest guitar i've played, but the $140 used '81 ibanez blazer bl550 i found at a local store is definitely the sweetest guitar i have .. i like this one just as much as the jem - but it brings out the blues-ish-man in me, LOL - which is definitely to say that while you still sound like yourself no matter what you play, but different tools bring out differences even within yourself.

peace all ..

~A

Sun Feb 9 '03 4:18:15 pm Set this message as last read

ovation1
Mikey D in da house
Satch = ZEN
Land Of The Rising Sun
Plays: Guitar
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matt king: Bravo dude!......I agree with what your saying about the Sig Series ....Whenever I do get a PGM it's gonna have the "F Holes" removed, lol, not that I'm gonna' get famous anytime soon!! LMAO!! I just love the simplicity of them....

PhryDom: Glad to see b'ness is booming, and good luck with Physic's!! I'm sure Naty can take care of you in the Espresso Dept., lol....Hi Naty :-)

JOE "When I went to the other rooms myself it was a total barrage of chat and instant messaging that left me no choice but to log off and go play my guitar!...But, hey, it was fun anyway...Thanks"

Is this man the epittomy of Kharma-geddon or what!! lol ;-)

Peace all, /\/\ike



Edited Sun Feb 9 '03 5:12 pm

Sun Feb 9 '03 5:11:22 pm Set this message as last read

beautifulsexgoddess

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eoj ih! mega got robbed for his joe stuff at the fillmore, glad that is not your league anymore. they could not even give him a bandaid when he cut himself cleaning up the glass that they broke when robbing his ass of his satch stuff? it is a freaky reality, that music stuff. saw tons of pics of you all, thank god he has those, please send condolences, please, s!
Sun Feb 9 '03 5:13:58 pm Set this message as last read

gleed

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Thanks Austin for the chat script. Now onto my point. itisstunotboo gleed - The webmaster does have a point. The service is free, and he's under no obligation to make it work for you specifically. It does sound like he was a little rude, but maybe he had a lot of people emailing him about the chat.

Regardless if it was free or not. I was simply giving advice on how to improve the site,thats all.I shouldnt have been blamed for something that was out of my control. Its the same as blaming a raped victum for being raped.

Another example,Jstrat57 recieved his free guitar right? So lets say he brought it home and tried it out for the first time. Does not work. So if the guitar is broken,its his fault because its free? I highly disagree with that point.

The site fails to mention any end user license or agreement of usage. So in the end,legaly http://www.guitar-guitar.com/ must take full responsibility for its own actions. ------------------------------------------------------------- mattking: gleed -- that email was quite rude to say the least from the wembaster @ guitar-guitar.com... joe -- please don't ever choose those ppl to deal with ever again man, I've heard nothing but god awful things about the chat, and the way it was handled. I do understand how they can get hectic and a bit confused, but...organaztion could have been achieved...and guitar-guitar.com refuses to take responsibility for it. Not the kinda of buisness ethic i'd like to be associated with... Thanks Mattking,i glad atleast someone in here sees my point of view.

Edited Thu Aug 7 '03 12:17 am

Sun Feb 9 '03 5:19:04 pm Set this message as last read

BEARMAN36
Barrie Poole
Orillia, ON
CANADA
Plays: Guitar (34 years)
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Yeah Clarky!

It's funny you should mention the Low Blood Pressure thing... blood is the key to this issue I'm sure...

11 years ago I was diagnosed with a rare form of Hipoglycemia(spelling!?)... at times I would have real low blood sugar to the point that I'd Black Out... my heart would actually stop for a split second, enough for me to lose consiousness and then at other times it's as if I had so much energy that I could hardly control myself & my actions... like a diabetic shock (almost drukin state)... my family doctor accused me of being on drugs, drinking too much alcohol (that's silly because I can barely handle one beer).

For the record I've never smoked up, shot up, sniffed, swallowed, and I've been drunk maybe enough to hold 4 fingers up to count the times...

I knew I hadn't done anything wrong but unfortunately the doctor and I don't get along anymore, and I decided to find another doctor but never got around to it and again; unfortunately there are no doctors in my city taking patients anymore, and I haven't been to one for 6 years now... This thing has been a real kicker to me over the years... But I haven't had any serious problems for many years now...

Yeah I guess it's time to go, my girlfriend luckily has a doctor and gets along with him really good, so she's going to try to get me in with him as soon as her next appointment comes along... I'm crossing my fingers!

Diabetes runs all in the family as well, an extreme case of it actually, the whole family has it... Mother, Father, Grandmothers had it etc... it's only inevitable that I should get it too... I've never been one to go gung ho on the sweets but sometimes a little is all it can take and there you have it, you're taking shots of insulin for the rest of your life...

Sun Feb 9 '03 5:51:30 pm Set this message as last read

Narface

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about signature guitars, I totally agree with Matt King. To me, a signature guitar is a collector's item. Not something you would use to perform with. Well, unless you customize it your way. I don't like to copy an artist, I will only be influenced. I think it's a natural thing. I play with my band, and we were experimenting with a bit of speed metal, but I kept slipping these bluesy Satch-like licks into it and I was like, "what the hell am I doing?" Ha!

But it does annoy me when another artist is using a signature series guitar. There's this local artist here, and he is quite a good guitarist, but on one of his albums, he had a picture of a JSY2K!!! I mean, who does he think he is? Korn used Vai's Universe in the early days, but it's because they could not find anything that plays that well. Also, it was only a temporary guitar, they got their own signature models later.

I'm not saying people should not be getting signature models. I just want people to find their own voice in their music. Whenever I pick up a signature guitar, I feel pressured because I think people will expect me to be able to play like someone else. That's why I got the RG570EXCPK. Mine came with a lo-pro. Special guitar, cuz it comes with an edge in later models. That's my special guitar.

Sun Feb 9 '03 5:53:33 pm Set this message as last read

BEARMAN36
Barrie Poole
Orillia, ON
CANADA
Plays: Guitar (34 years)
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NARFACE...

I know how you feel man... the only thing about Ibanez is that you imediately think that it's a SATCH or VAI instrument, at least that's how I felt about Ibanez anyway... and then with Fender Strat that's a Gilmour, Clapton, Hendrix, Malmsteen, Vaughn instrument... with Gibson Les Pauls, that's a Page, Slash, Wylde, instrument...

I felt that in order for me to feel "myself" on a guitar, it had to be something that I put together myself! "Here's My Guitar"

It looks professional, and I had a hand in building it... I think truely if you really want to understand the instrument more then; take the time, be patient, and build one yourself! whether it's from scratch or from prefabricated parts, I say TRY IT!!!

these are the guys that helped me out http://www.warmoth.com

Hope this helps some of you understand the big picture out there... there's alot of fine instruments out there I must admit, but I say there's nothing more "gratifying" than to put your heart into something you made and are able to play a song on it for the 1st time... when I put this guitar together & played it for the 1st time, it brought tears to my eyes...

Edited Sun Feb 9 '03 7:00 pm

Sun Feb 9 '03 6:24:39 pm Set this message as last read

Do The Stu
Austin Lewis, III
Costa Mesa, CA
United States
Plays: Bass (25 years)
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gleed - If you were just giving advice, you probably shouldn't've received that kind of reply. Sorry about that... I don't want to get into a fight, so I'll stop here.

...Austin...

Sun Feb 9 '03 6:35:25 pm Set this message as last read

PJH
Petteri Heino
Valkeakoski,
Finland
Plays: Guitar (36 years)
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Hey Austin, any chance you could email me the transcript as well? Thanks. :-)

aardfather@beer.com

Sun Feb 9 '03 6:54:11 pm Set this message as last read

Do The Stu
Austin Lewis, III
Costa Mesa, CA
United States
Plays: Bass (25 years)
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Clarky... I have a random question for you. I'm not really expecting you to know the answer, but I guess I'll ask anyway. If you don't know, maybe someone else can help me...

There were a few times between a year and year and a half ago where I was calling the AOL customer service department. They put me on hold (LOL), and the music that they played in the background was really cool. I don't remember much about it, but it had a really cool piano part (it was mostly piano). There might've been some symphonic stuff in the background as well.

There was a certain piano part that was repeated every so often...it sounded very much like the harmonic intro to Summer Song (the thing around the 4th and 5th frets on the A, D, and G strings).

Do you have any idea what piece of music this might be? Your earlier comments about Summer Song reminded me of this question. And with your recent posts about different orchestral stuff I thought I should ask the question again... LOL. Thanks for reading this far. ;-) I'm sorry for being completely random.

...Austin...

Sun Feb 9 '03 6:55:06 pm Set this message as last read

OCPS470
Chris Peters
Lake Mary, FL
USA
Plays: Guitar (28 years)
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Hey all, I was just listening to a cd my dad gave me. The guitarist is Larry McCray. Every one should try to look this guy up online, he is one of the most briliant blues guitaristts I've heard in a long time. JSClone1: thanks again for the recent post you put up about "Darkness." That song is my most recent so far, and I was trying to be bluesy. I'm glad you can appreciate what I've been attempting to do in my music. I'm back to recording a new song that is going to be very much of the format where the vocal is replaced with the guitar. It should be very melodic. If that doesn't work out, maybe I'll just go nuts a record some 64th note legato speed runs. HAHA.
Sun Feb 9 '03 7:01:06 pm Set this message as last read

Lyz
Elizabeth Miller
Buffalo, NY
USA
Plays: Guitar (25 years)
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Austin- I'd love a transcript as well :) miliz7@msn.com

~Lyz
Sun Feb 9 '03 7:04:00 pm Set this message as last read

Narface

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Funny news everyone!!! I checked out the 2003 Ibanez catalogue and found something weird. We all read from websites saying that the JS1000WH is not in production anymore. But when I looked at Satch's guitars, there it is! The lovely classy white JS!!! I think the discontinued model is the burnt blue. So is it good news or bad news? You decide!! Oh, all Satch and Vai guitars have the Edge-pro trem.
Sun Feb 9 '03 7:18:27 pm Set this message as last read

MegaBoyd
Boyd
suisun city, california
u s A
Plays: Bass
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Just click the link, press Reload & you will Love!!!
Sun Feb 9 '03 7:25:25 pm Set this message as last read

MegaBoyd
Boyd
suisun city, california
u s A
Plays: Bass
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Just click the link, press Reload & you will Love!!!
Sun Feb 9 '03 7:25:43 pm Set this message as last read

MegaBoyd
Boyd
suisun city, california
u s A
Plays: Bass
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Time Machine!!! Time Machine!!! Time Machine!!! Time Machine!!! Time Machine!!! Time Machine!!! Time Machine!!! Time Machine!!! Time Machine!!! Time Machine!!! Time Machine!!! Time Machine!!!, Oh Thank You Joe, It ruled, beyond belief, MegaBoyD
Sun Feb 9 '03 7:27:56 pm Set this message as last read

peanutlover
Rhonda Frey
Florida, NY 10921, New York
U.S.A.
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Hi, Joe! Haven't checked in for quite awhile! Work is nuts and I've been feeling low lately! A friend of ours has breast cancer, someone my husband works with died at 49 suddenly while watching a Nicks game, then the shuttle...I don't know. It's too much sometimes! Just wanted to let you know your music brings me comfort. Congrats on your nomination for the Grammy - if there's any justice, you'll get it! And also congrats on receiving the Governor's Award. You should be proud of your accomplishments. I'm sure they haven't come without sacrifice. Consider varying your set list with some more stuff from "Joe Satriani", "Crystal Planet" (ANY tune will do!) and some "Flying..." like Back to Shalla Bal and The Forgotten. Joe tune of the day - "If". Such a fun, fantastic song! Bring on the new stuff, Joe!
Sun Feb 9 '03 7:38:02 pm Set this message as last read

death cube k

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ok here is what will end the signature guitar debate... once and for all. let travel through time to the 60's eric clapton/jeff beck/jimmy page has anybody heard of these guys? oh wait they all played somebody else's sig guitar..now the 70's tony iommi/angus young/ al di meola/ted nugent/paul kosoff/carlos santana/steve miller/joe walsh/ joe perry/brad whitford/ the 80's slash,randy rhoads,zakk wylde, the 90' mike mcready/stone gossard, ect... any way all of these guys played the first or second signature guitars ever you guessed it the gibson "les paul" and the gibson"sg" both are les paul signature guitars.. and all of these guys got famous.... kinda blows a hole through the nobody famous ever plays a different persons signature guitar i think.????
megaboyd did you mean this ???????
Sun Feb 9 '03 8:01:59 pm Set this message as last read

matt king
Matthew King
Brick, New Jersey
United States
Plays: Guitar (35 years)
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death cube...AGAIN that is a STYLE of a guitar...not a signature model so to speak. You can't buy a guitar shaped like a js from ibanez...and i mean EXACTLY shaped like a JS that is not a signature model...HOWEVER, you CAN buy an SG or a LESPAUL that isn't signature model...see where Im going with this?! ;:)
Sun Feb 9 '03 8:09:32 pm Set this message as last read

trutina
Bil McKim
Plays: Well with others
Plays: Guitar (29 years)
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I tend to agree with Matt on this Les Paul thing. I don't see my Les Paul guitar as a Les Paul the person signature series. It's the name of the guitar that he designed. I don't think, that when the LP came out, it was being advertised as "the guitar Les Paul plays", but nearly a new style guitar that happens to be named after the man that designed it. That's where most of the companies got there first models' names I'm sure. Do people buy PRS guitars to sound like Paul Reed Smith? Do people buy Fender guitars to sound like Leo Fender?

As far as playing signature series guitars and still keeping your own sound, I think that is quite possible. Tone is in the hands, not the knobs.

Sun Feb 9 '03 8:24:19 pm Set this message as last read

death cube k

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matt king .. who do you think "les paul " is? he is a brilliant guitar player, yes it was a signature series. ,,, why do you think "les paul" or lester paulfus as his birth name is shaped like that, he is a human not a shape, it is a signature series he still get royalties on every les paul sold. therefore it is a signature series. any way good luck .. i mean rick neilsen is the only guitar player to have a signature guitar shaped like him.. so...
Sun Feb 9 '03 8:27:13 pm Set this message as last read

death cube k

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trutina les pauls were marketed as the guitar les paul played, as for the prs statment. he is a manufacturer like gibson his guitars have model names ie:dragon, custom24/ce22 singlecut ,santana, tremonti,. fender is also a manufaturer of guitars , as gibson is. so comparing a player to a builder is different brush up on you history boys..
Sun Feb 9 '03 8:31:05 pm Set this message as last read
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