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Isaac_19
Isaac
Coruña, Galicia
Spain
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jelou pipol, jau ar llu?
Tue Apr 15 '03 6:16:12 am Set this message as last read

Clarky
Paul Clark
plays the organ, going blind
www.paul-clark.com
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stu - I could well have started something that I'll live to regret... lol...


woldeface - sounds to me like you've hit a plateau - got so far and just don't seem to be able to get through the other side... the trick is variety.. are you practicing the same stuff the same way all of the time? do you always go about writing music from the same starting point? - i.e. on the guitar...

you need fresh information, fresh knowledge, a fresh approach, new ideas... this'll re-ignite yor playing and enthusiasm...

Joe's right - there are some mean players in here.. plenty of good advice and learning to be found... just ask the questions...


Tue Apr 15 '03 6:47:24 am Set this message as last read

orangeade
Sharon
Plays: Keyboards (26 years)
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Woldeface: Hey!

Hmm...this SARS thing is really getting me down. It's sad that because of one stopover the entire Asian leg of the tour had to be cancelled.

Incidentally, I just came down with the flu and now everybody's avoiding me like the plague.... :p *sneezes*

This is going to sound weird, but anybody know how Joe made that sound duringthe solo in Mindstorm?

Tue Apr 15 '03 6:59:27 am Set this message as last read

Greg M
Greg Melia
York
UK
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michelle You're beginning to sound like akiko lol.

orangeade No, I don't. While we're at it, my very first post ever asked ow joe made the sounds in Headless, and I haven't got an answer either. Does anyone know that one?

Tue Apr 15 '03 7:04:13 am Set this message as last read

keihan

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death cube K & Trutina,

About the Experimental track...thanks. :-)

I have a version of "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" that I'm working on but it may be awhile before it's finished. I want to do it with some live musicians other than those in my band (they don't have time for such things because they are all doctors heheh).

It's unlike Joe's version, so it's not just a remake heheh.

I'd also like to get my pianist friend involved since he has a nice synthesiser :)

Tue Apr 15 '03 7:07:45 am Set this message as last read

Invigor
John B
Regina, Sk
Canada
Plays: Guitar (27 years)
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flight of mind is pretty groovy...

i think someone should do some bass for js clone's song :)

Tue Apr 15 '03 7:09:44 am Set this message as last read

AVARICE

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CLARKY: Post in haste......repent at leisure....moo....baa...cluck...
Tue Apr 15 '03 7:14:22 am Set this message as last read

michelle

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Greg M - lol! That's pretty funny. I have a rageing head cold, and after reading 5 pages, that's all I could come up with. lol!! I don't know what the other guys story is? lol!

Tue Apr 15 '03 7:20:13 am Set this message as last read

keihan

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Clarky,

Good point! Don't always write with just guitar in mind!

Woldeface-Also, a nice little excercise that I used to do (it helps with ear training as well) is to take a song or another intrumental piece (let's say Kenny G on Sax) and transcribe the vocals or other instrument to guitar. Use bends and swells and little "embellishments" where they seem to fit for you :). These kinds of things helped me to establish my own feel and playing identity. It also added some versatility to my style.

I'm somewhat of an impatient guitarist with fingers that won't stop half the time, so it's not uncommon for me to throw in a long pick scrape at a rest or a quick riff or something. Try adding things in where they don't exist in other recorded pieces, you'll be amazed at, how eventually these things will come like second nature later on. I never try to overdo it though because you want to keep the feeling lively and have emotion. If you just play fast riffs, a song tends to lose the emotional power that you want it to project. I think, for some of us... that is why Yngwie's playing is somewhat of a turn off... fast riffs and quickly played out arppegios begin to sound the same after awhile even if they aren't. The ear deciphers slower notes much better and thus can make a solid distinction between the notes being played...

However, a flavorful, quick riff here and there adds shock and excitement to song. If you listen to Joe and Vai, they tend to alternate between slowly sustained notes (bent or unbent) and will add some excitement to the instrumental by picking up the pace toward the middle or end and then... settle back down to a slow pace again to finish it off. Their best songs are this way and the songs which tend to attract the most attention are arranged like this.

Although Satch Boogie (and a few others) seem to differ in this respect to a degree, it still gradually picks up pace. Great stuff though!

Just my thoughts,

----wishe

Edited Tue Apr 15 '03 7:50 am

Tue Apr 15 '03 7:20:41 am Set this message as last read

snuffmovie

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SPILLER. Meet in ERIC at ORANGE. Cleaning up operation now. Arrange meet at Bag Central. Others are waiting.
Tue Apr 15 '03 7:27:25 am Set this message as last read

keihan

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BORING FINGER EXCERCISES! Ahhhhh!

I'll tell you, we all feel this way, but there is no better exercises than going over various scales about 15 minutes each day.

I tend to go over chromatic scales most often since it involves all of my fingers and play them forward, backward ...picked and then using hammer-ons and pull-offs. Change the sequence from time to time too, to create a little more difficulty.

Good excercises but certainly a must for those who wish to play those quick riffs! Just Knowing the sequence of notes won't help much because you fingers must memorize that fretboard and be able to flow smoothly in either direction.

It took me years to master "Always With Me. Always With You" even though I knew the dern notes, bends etc etc... Why? Because I blew off practicing my scales! Once I returned to practicing my scales, the little quick runs in the song came with ease almost over night!

Scales scales scales! Learn them... practice em and forget about em! Then your fingers will do the talking!

Tue Apr 15 '03 8:04:56 am Set this message as last read

Adrianorb
Adrián Robles
Saltillo, Coahuila
México
Plays: Guitar (32 years)
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Keihan

Have you heard the "somewhere over the rainbow" song with John Petrucci?? I have it and is fun.

Tue Apr 15 '03 8:08:39 am Set this message as last read

keihan

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Adrianorb - I'm not sure that I have heard that one. I'll have to look around :) .

Tue Apr 15 '03 8:13:16 am Set this message as last read

keihan

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Adrianorb - Just heard it. It is quite short but nice. Joe's is much much longer! Hehehe...

The version I'm working on, I'm trying to avoid too many tremelo swells and drops. I'm deliberately trying to make it a bit conservative heheheh... not an easy chore for me! Once I have something, I'll post a bit... How bout I post it as a work in progress? That way I can get everyone's input and suggestions :)

Tue Apr 15 '03 8:23:23 am Set this message as last read

Adrianorb
Adrián Robles
Saltillo, Coahuila
México
Plays: Guitar (32 years)
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[Keihan] - I haven't heard Joe's version, I've just heard Petrucci's version 1 month ago and it is short, I'll look for Joe's version.
Tue Apr 15 '03 8:29:19 am Set this message as last read

Sharif
Sharif Jameel
Parkville, Maryland
USA
Plays: Guitar (30 years)
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Graham you rock...why did I know YOU would be the one to give me an answer to that one????

SJ

Tue Apr 15 '03 8:32:34 am Set this message as last read

Greg M
Greg Melia
York
UK
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Petrucci doing over the rainbow? Joe doing over the rainbow? I never heard of those. Where can I find them?
Tue Apr 15 '03 8:36:18 am Set this message as last read

Narface

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NARF!!! Hello Joe!! I guess with all the tour dates postponed, you get more time to spend on T2J! That means you can reply to ALL the messages posted here to you! Yup! haha! keep rockin'!
ha....looooooo everyone else! howz life? I'm not sure if I told u this, but my art exam went pretty well! The examiner said one of my piece (out of 24) was one of the best ones in the exhibition! so that's kinda cool. If I ever make my own website, I'll stick in some of the art stuff that I've done. and my lovely guitar, of course! Cheers!
Tue Apr 15 '03 8:49:40 am Set this message as last read

Adrianorb
Adrián Robles
Saltillo, Coahuila
México
Plays: Guitar (32 years)
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greg_m: I found it on the web. Unfortunately I am at work not at home so I can share Petrucci's one with you. I can send it by e-mail, it's not very heavy because is short.
Tue Apr 15 '03 8:51:51 am Set this message as last read

keihan

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A friend of mine gave me a copy of Joe's version of Somewhere Over The Rainbow. It is awesome as can be expected, at about midway Joe explodes with all the emotion and passion that we can expect from his playing!

As far as Petrucci's, I was able to find a copy quickly enough thru the P2P channels, but since I'm quite the honest character it is a copy I won't keep :( heheh.

However I do like P2P cause it allows me to sample stuff from musician's I've never heard thus making the decision as to whose stuff I want to go spend my paycheck on LOL! Too many folks use it dishonestly though and that sucks for artists whom make little from the money grubbing Major Labels to begin with. However, I could care less about the losses suffered by the CEO's who suck the lifeblood from many of the artists themselves. Oooops....now, I'll probably have the RCIAA police banging on my door when I get home! Guess, I'll attack em wid me axe! LOL

Tue Apr 15 '03 8:59:10 am Set this message as last read

Mr Nick

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finished the drum track for my ex-t2joe cd track...after rewriting it a few times from the original rythmn...now clocks in at 7:31 mins long...and thats part 1 :P :)
Tue Apr 15 '03 8:59:39 am Set this message as last read

Adrianorb
Adrián Robles
Saltillo, Coahuila
México
Plays: Guitar (32 years)
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Hello: A friend brought me an old magazine with an article of Satriani and his Mexico concert, I tranlated it for you all.

The talented guitarist impressed thousands of Mexicans when he presented with Steve Vai and John Petrucci last year in the National Auditorium in the G3 tour; now, the master of the six strings comes back alone with his magic to perform in a great show in Metropolitan theatre.

For the event, the New Yorker will present songs from his new album Strange Beatiful Music, which is a success in the world and even some people classifies it like incredible, some other agree that the music from this guitarist is a special jewel to which the word sublime is not enough.

His work has a lot of power, and after hearing it is impossible not to fall in the Satriani spell, so this concert cannot be missed.

Tue Apr 15 '03 9:16:43 am Set this message as last read

death cube k

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kiehan never heard joe's version of "swotr" but chris impelliterri has a smokin version of it..
Tue Apr 15 '03 9:52:53 am Set this message as last read

Clarky
Paul Clark
plays the organ, going blind
www.paul-clark.com
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avarice - lol... and grief for eternity... lol
wow - I see blasts from the past.... nuf-sed.....
Tue Apr 15 '03 10:00:19 am Set this message as last read

crispin
crispin Da Costa
high wycombe, bucks
England
Plays: Guitar (26 years)
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people from asia the dates have not been cancelled they have been postponed meaning delayed until it is safe for joe to go. so stop sating its been cancelled cos they havent.

Edited Tue Apr 15 '03 10:17 am
Tue Apr 15 '03 10:17:35 am Set this message as last read
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