962
Simon
Granada, Andalucia
Spain
Plays: Guitar (24 years)
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Alexandre, haha, funny you should mention Nuno doing a DVD next - later this month a limited edition CD/DVD of Nuno will be released; it's the 'guitar wars' thing with Paul Gilbert and others. Mikey D knows a bit more about it than I do!!
I've been gone for 2 nights and there's 14 pages to check through. I hate to think how much there will be after I come back from my week in the US!
Sammy Andrews, if you get a chance, check out a Paul Gilbert video - his picking exercises are great cuz it's what he swears by
Ovation1, you maybe like the Jem necks better than the PGM? that's interesting. I found the PGM so easy to pick up and play, it felt very familiar, but I think that may be because it's close to my RG neck. The binding helps that. I dunno, the PGM felt really easy to play Nuno-type rhythm stuff on, which is odd cause it should feel really easy to play ridiculosuly cool shred on. Oh hang on, I can't play any ridiculously cool shred, so that's why it didn't feel that way! hehe
about Vai's honey - I bet it's fast, and I bet it's well-dresed, and I bet it can make noises that just shouldn't be possible! haha, and I bet the use-by date on the Jar keeps getting scribbled out then re-written because it's not ready to go off yet! hehe
Davey Wavey, hehe "I'll get me coat".....respect bro!
The Farting Gnome, the SRV strat costs a lot, and the relic Strat costs loads, so a combination of both will surely leave Fender asking us for about 3.5 grand or more?!
yeah, I'm also visiting the amazon site frequently at the moment cause i'm waiting for this bloody DVD, oh and a digital camera! I'm ordering it now, and I need it to arive on wednesday - that's optomism!
Ethn, I dunno, I think lots of people record and produce examples of stuff played faster than Joe, but I don't think that means Joe isn't capable. From what I understand, he really is a monster in a lot of different disciplines, but his head is oriented towards the music, not the note density, so I think he could surprise us if he wanted to.
That said, people like Petrucci, Belsky and Gilbert have insane right-hand technique! it's clinical, especially Petrucci!
Jazz Man, amen to Ovation 1 on his response - I'm also sure Joe would be upset at what you said about Steve. Joe exclusively selects his fellow-players and obviously has great respect for the people who he plays with. Steve has oceans of talent just like Joe does, and is equally creative in the musical sphere.
I know we are all entitled to our own opinion so fair enough, you may not like him, but you should be able to acknowledge the fact that he's an extremely clever guy. Hell, I'm a huge fan and I don't like some of his stuff, but i know it's clever from an artistic point of view.
yes we can expect more, cause this May's shows in amsterdam will demonstrate his ability to write music for himself supporting a symphony orchestra. oh, and Steve doesn't drink!
btw. your post at TASTEY was a bit rude (in my opinion), that's no way to talk to a lady.
as a general comment, I've heard a lot of sh*t against Dr Vai lately and it's getting silly. People like to hate people. I heard Guthrie Govan (misspelled?) suggest that Vai is a great guy but every Jem owner is a Vai clone? what? And he said that the Jem is characterless and bland. what? He also said that Joe is great if you're lazy and you only want to play legato, but that's about it. how rude! Joe is creative, and his music is melodic, unlike some people's!
TheA, welcome! nice post about Joe, by the way! hehe. we have discussed the format of the board a few times before, and the general consensus is that this format is nice cause it's more personal. I like it, it's less messy.
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Mon Feb 9 '04 12:34:43 pm
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962
Simon
Granada, Andalucia
Spain
Plays: Guitar (24 years)
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I apologise sincerely for the double post. I feel bad, but that's what happens when there's 14 pages worth responding to! I'll have to be conservative after I've been away for a whole week!
Chris Woodland, Steve was transcribing for Frank at 17, cause Frank said he wouldn't let an under-20-year-old be in his band. I think he actually gave up and said "oh go on then" when Steve was 19, almost 20!
skydivineinstein, yeah it'd be great to see Eric Johnson back on G3! I'd also love to see Andy Timmons and Nuno Bettencourt on there, and Paul Gilbert and Steve Lukather would be great too!
DelfinoPie, I don't believe in getting rid of gifts either, stick with that guitar dude! Yeah, Joe took lessons from a Piano teacher, I believe.
Gbloke, maybe you should be one of the first to get a new Ibanez S series with the ZR trem. it looks like a cool idea, and aparrently it's pretty stable too.
SOTD, FREINDS ~ Joe Satriani!
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Mon Feb 9 '04 12:36:03 pm
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Ya Yo Gakk
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DAVEY WAVEY- but remember win2k and winxp are NT based operating systems, they wont just install on any given hardware config like 98 will...it has to be a stable hardware config for the OS to run stable, sure downloading is just downloading but i run photoshop, various video editing applications and burn DVD's all day long without a hiccup, on win 98 i'd have to reboot every 3 hours because it's resource management was horrible. BTW havent restarted since i posted last, not that it's a big thing but the convenience factor is great.
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Mon Feb 9 '04 12:36:35 pm
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jelly man
Paul Huxley
Guildford, Surrey
England
Plays: Bass (24 years)
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stu not boo - that's true, granted, definitely- however, california is enormous... guildford's a pretty small city even by English standards. nick, yoda and I all live within 2 miles of one another. So i'm just talking density of people really...california's bigger than the UK if i'm not mistaken, so I could include all the English T2Jers which are quite a few...
but granted, californ I-A is clearly has a large representation here.
clarky- about the concept album/romantic song cycle... i mean there are just a lot of similarities, structurally. the fact that it is cyclic and will often have themes cropping up all over the place. the fact that the songs are often linked directly into one another, the fact that there are lyrics, they usually tell a story, and then that they often end with the same way they start... it just seemed exactly the same thing but in the romantic idiom instead of 1960s onward...
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Mon Feb 9 '04 12:38:34 pm
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Meany Guts
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Dont get me wrong there Gary I know from a few fellow players that Joe and Vai will always come first in "MOST PEOPLE'S OPINIONS" (just in case any fannys out there get the wrong idea).
Most find out from my parents more about my cousin to see if he is up to that sickening standard!
I play an American Fender strat but when trying some really flash stuff it can be more difficult than if you were using a chrome boy or a Vai machine.
What is ure own weapon of choice?
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Mon Feb 9 '04 12:39:01 pm
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TASTEY
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962: no need to apologize for the double post, they were both lengthy, if they were like 2 words we might have to kick yer arse! but i do have to say you spelt friends wrong though, i still love you though.....so i will second the SOTD.
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Mon Feb 9 '04 12:44:22 pm
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ToneCapone
Tony O
Montgomery, AL
u.s.a
Plays: Guitar (25 years)
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Hey guys just wanted to let you know there are about 9-10 Dimarzio PAF Joe's on sale on Ebay right now! If you've been looking for the new Dimarzio Paf Joe here's your chance.
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Mon Feb 9 '04 12:49:21 pm
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TheA
Arod Balissa
Israel
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962: Me and a friend of mine are setting up a board as we speak. I don't know about your decisions, but if you would like to give it a try my board is open for you all! Well, i must say that if you guys agree - I'll open a special category for Joe, maybe Vai even!
I hope you will find my board nice. Adress will be here soon... lol, just need to do some php and checking for bugs.
Cheers
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Mon Feb 9 '04 12:49:32 pm
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DelfinoPie
Martin Phillips
King Of Monsters
Plays: Doctors & Nurses (
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Meany Guts: LOL weapon of choice...best phrase Ive heard in a long while...[applauds].
I won't be getting rid of my Telecaster ever...its a lovely guitar. I'm sure to buy more of them in the future...when I'm not so finicially unstable (aka broke).
I think a guitar I like the look of is the Ibanez EDR 470 or an orange S160.
Looks like the kinda guitar I'd want to customize to make my own :)
Delfino
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Mon Feb 9 '04 12:50:42 pm
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Ya Yo Gakk
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Metal Performance: "St. Anger," Metallica.
Rock Instrumental Performance: "Plan B," Jeff Beck.
i don't know whether to be happy or sad for jeff beck... he won an award.....but also one bestowed upon a band for the worst song of the year period, and for a category it shouldn't have been placed.... congrats/sympathies to jeff!
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Mon Feb 9 '04 12:51:27 pm
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Fretslayer
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962: Wow, I have to say i'm pretty bummed to read some of the negative comments towards Joe and Vai. I read a review in a recent guitar mag of the G3 03 cd, and they pretty much just dumped on it. Boring was used to describe it more than once. Whatever....
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Mon Feb 9 '04 12:52:36 pm
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Meany Guts
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Glad to hear you got a laugh out of that DelfinoPie!
I would spend the entire day here trying to make conversion with all you interesting guys but that would mean neglecting my college work!! That would be just really terrible..... NOT!!!!!
But I will also be neglect practicing my beloved guitar and never be able to play one of Joe's mighty tunes!
I just new to you lot but i'll be around a lot more in the future (And i don't mean 2020!!). Anyway good luck flokes and keep the tips of those fingers hard!
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Mon Feb 9 '04 1:08:47 pm
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OCPS470
Chris Peters
Lake Mary, FL
USA
Plays: Guitar (28 years)
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S1220: Yeah, I figured you'd go with the FRED and the PAFPRO haha! They're mean pu's. The Air pu's I recommended are definitely made for smoother lead sounds.
Do The Stu: Simpsons is really going in the crapper. They've forgetten the social sarcastic commentary that the show was built on and now the script seems written just to pay off one lame ass punch line after another. The only thing that could save the show is if Conan O'Brien started writting scripts again (you know he wrote the famous monorail episode).
As far as the whole Vai debate goes.....he's an amazing guitarist with unlimited expressive abilities. I love alot of his work, but where he goes wrong is the fact that he tries too hard sometimes to write weird songs a la Frank Zappa. The only thing is that when Zappa wrote crazy crap it still worked in a pleasing jazzy way in most cases. Sometimes Vai misses, but at least he's got the balls to go out on a limb for music.
Okay...now for the speed debate...I went to the recent G3 show, and with the 3 guys together, no one was really apreciablly faster than the other...they just favored different techniques.....Joe uses more legato (however did tremelo pick very fast at times), Steve uses more tapping, and Yngwie sweeps and tremelo picks mostly. As far as the important part goes(who played the cleanest and improved the best) that goes to Joe hands down....nuff said.
One last thing....Neil Zaza would be great for G3, although he kindof sounds like a Satch clone...
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Mon Feb 9 '04 1:32:47 pm
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SatchDork
Matt
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michelle - just read about your basement debacle. What can I say besides THAT SUCKS!!! Thank heaven you saved the guitars, though! Hopefully the Boogie wasn't damaged (shouldn't have been with that little water, unless the speakers got soaked). The same thing happened to my parents' next door neighbor about a year ago. Of course, it was while I was house sitting for both them and my parents!!! They got it BAD, though. Carpet ruined, a box of family photos gone, miscellaneous other things ruined. Really sucked. Fortunately my parents' basement has never flooded (though I am now deathly afraid of storing guitars in basements :).
In other news, I just gotta' throw in my two cents on this Vai thing, but I'll make it quick. I think when Steve gets in the studio, he has two many "toys" that he can't keep his hands off of. He sometimes overthinks/processes some of his ideas and it saps them of soul. However, go see him live (when he can't take all his toys with him) and he'll BLOW YOUR MIND! When he's limited to the 327-or-so effects that he can take on the road, the soul comes blasting through! Too bad I've only seen him solo once and G3 once. :_(
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Mon Feb 9 '04 1:44:36 pm
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mick87
Spoonman Spider Mike
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abusive posting should be left to professionals.... like vbil ;-).
Michelle - lmao... yes it would. But I just take a peak at my notebook of 100 Witty/charismatic/charming lines and it's all good. Then I jump into a conviently located lagoon and swim away with a pod of dolphins...lol...
Cube.ca - Ya.. Jeff deserved that Grammy. He rocks so much... even after all these years. And -2!! Whoa, most feel like a heat wave, haha!
Stu Not Boo Clone - You know a lot of big words...
Ovation - lol man... probably has a bomb-shelter 30 feet below the ground where he keeps his "boy-toys".
Free Alex!! Take M. Jackson instead!! ;-)...
Clarky - u stay away from my lego!! or I get my brudda to kck u @ss. I know he tuff... I saw em ressle tha neybours rot-weiler and den win!! he'll ressle u 4 u legos... all of em! I swerez... done kick u @ss an take u lego. U wanna fkn talk bout it?! Done come in here an talks bout no fkn'n legosss! u gimme 10 minz an my brudda be ready to fites for dem legos! ;-)...
962 - Who the heck is Guthrie Govan?? lol...
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Mon Feb 9 '04 2:06:45 pm
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Clarky
Paul Clark
plays the organ, going blind
www.paul-clark.com
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Jazz_man - "Steve Vai needs to be taking more lessons from Joe cause he still is nothing other than a talentless buffoon."
talentless? not true.. he is a true innovator and has made a massive contribution to the development of modern rock guitar.. Tender Surrender, For the Love of God... there is plenty of soul in there... maybe you just don't understand his music... if you don't then that's your loss....
buffoon?.. buffoon = idiot... that he definately is not... he is right at the top in his chosen profession... he is not there by accident... an idiot he definately is not... too many well educated and well thought of musicians rate him too highly for him to be even remotely close to a buffoon...
love him or hate him... Malmsteen has also made a huge contribution to the development of guitar style... he definately turned everything upside down when he first appeared...if nothing else, he deserves respect.. the world of rock guitar would be very different had he never been a part of it...
yes Satch is a remarkable and talented player and worthy of tremendous respect.. but he is ont the only great player around...
I deeply suspect that Vai's playing made its greatest leaps, not when he was a student of Satch, but when he was employed by Zappa [a unique innovator and a true genius]..
so with respect to your "talentless buffoon" comment.. you are either a truely brilliant musician far above and beyond the capabilities of the Vai's of this world... or you are remarkably stupid....
which one are you??
it is in fact quite acceptable to not enjoy the music of a particular artist due to your personal taste, and yet recognise that fact that the artist has an immense ability and has made a massive contribution to the craft....
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Mon Feb 9 '04 2:09:44 pm
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Joeman9
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All right. This is wrong. Is it always like this?
Jazz Man If you ask me I must say get lost. Insulting a lady is wrong. It's worse if you don't know them. You are coming off as a butthole. Many of your comments, while you may be protecting your opinion, are uncalled for and downright wrong. Vai is a good player. If you don't like him say so. We understand. Some people don't. Dissing him on his mentors site is a different story entirely. Saying you hope he burns his axe is overdoing it.
All right guys if it's always like this I'm leaving. I'm generally a peaceful guy, but pulling this crap just puts me over the edge. I'm not saying anyone is justified though in my OPINION TASTEY is. It looks to me that she is defending herself here.
On other totally unrelated news, The snow is melting. (slo-mo) N-N-O-O-O! (end slo-mo) It's going away. no more snow days. However, I'll be doing SOMETHING.
-Joeman9(Cool#9)
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Mon Feb 9 '04 2:46:51 pm
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DelfinoPie
Martin Phillips
King Of Monsters
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I think everyone has said how much they think Jazzman is an a**hole, lets move on before we stop a fan from posting on one of their favourite musician's forum.
I'm not taking sides but you're fillin ma'h screen with pointless retaliations, and ma'h screen should only be filled with MSN conversations, pictures, and of course happy comments on this forum :) lol.
Delfino
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Mon Feb 9 '04 2:53:26 pm
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Joeman9
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I agree Yeh, yeh mmmm-hm. Thi' here man(woman) is right ! shtop the hatin'! I dun posted my say alreadies. Lets get tuh moo-vin' on
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Mon Feb 9 '04 3:02:06 pm
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michelle
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mick, I'm taking mental notes *Mick leaves behind beautiful models on a tropical beach to swim with a pod of dolphins after looking at his notes* Are you eating those funny mushrooms before bed young man!?!
SatchDork, I was hesitant to put some things down in the basement when we moved in, but it's such a nice room... live and learn.
Delfino, here's a happy comment for you ~ HAPPY COMMENT! ;-)
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Mon Feb 9 '04 3:04:56 pm
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Pitch no 8
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CACOPHONY : Speed Metal Symphony 9:32
It's not a Vai song my friend.
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Mon Feb 9 '04 3:15:52 pm
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DelfinoPie
Martin Phillips
King Of Monsters
Plays: Doctors & Nurses (
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LOL Joeman...I'm truly feeling your ghetto vibe.
ANYWAY...I have a problem and its name is inspiration where do people get it from?
Delfino
Btw Thanx Pitch No. 8, although I was wrong about who wrote Speed Metal Symphony, it seems to have lead me into a great musical direction....the direction of Vai.
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Mon Feb 9 '04 3:17:27 pm
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Narface
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EVERYONE!!!!
Stop what you are doing at once and follow the simple instruction below:
smile
OK, please continue on whatever you were doing.
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Mon Feb 9 '04 3:39:46 pm
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DelfinoPie
Martin Phillips
King Of Monsters
Plays: Doctors & Nurses (
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Right people, I wont be able to post till tomorrow when I get back from school.
So right now I'm off to bed as its 23:39pm GMT.
G'night and keep thinking outside the proverbial box
Delfino
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Mon Feb 9 '04 3:44:11 pm
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PhryDom
Dave
Atlanta, GA
USA
Plays: Guitar (45 years)
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YaYo this is getting to be a long and drawn out conversation lol......I know (with XPerience lol) that 98 is "soooo last Tuesday", I'm just stuck there! lol.... ME is the last 16 bit "GUI for DOS" and XP & 2K (and beyond) are the way to go.... unfortunately the hardware I have is the hardware I'm gonna have for some time.... I'm just making do with what I have ;-)
This thing about kids throwing toys from prams really needs to stop..... and if any of those kiddies HAVE THEIR PERIOD then that is NO EXCUSE to swear or call names or be aggressive..... it might in the REAL WORLD but it doesn't here, well to me anyway... lookit... it happens every month... unless you're something like 13 years old you should be used to it by now and stop trying to get votes JUST because you're a woman..... there are lots of other women who don't do that, so why should you?
VBIL.... you're doing very well, old bean!
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