The Prez
Jared Presley Cincinnati, Ohio USA Plays: Guitar (2024 years)
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civgeek You said "I would have to say the big point is that most people don't say they play because of beck or johnson or guy. They play 'cause they heard jimi."
I know one person up there that didn't, Robert Johnson, he died over 4 years before hendrix was born, get your facts right. And if you ask Zakk Wylde, James Hetfield, Dave Mustaine, who inspired him most, it's Tony Iommi. Steve Vai has always gave credit to Frank Zappa, or right under him Jimmy Page. You see more of Tony's rythem playing in modern metal and hard rock than you do Hendrix's. Tony did more for metal than hendrix did. I think really hendrix just kept his genre alive in his point of time, which has heighten when he died. I realize he has inspired countless people, but I'm not one of those who belives if hendrix hadn'tlived then no one would beplaying a guitar, that's a radical thinking. That's something a die-hard fan would say or someone who would say that acting cool. That's the reason he's around, not nessisary because of his playing. If he would have lived, 10 years down the road he could of just made mediocre albums. i do not think that he would of been the #1 dog in the guitar community and kept putting out origional material that would of been accepted by the mainstreem,I don't believe that.
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Wed Jun 2 '04 5:25:42 am
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Zinc Master
Zinc Master Crown Point, IN USA
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The Prez
I am from Northwestern Indiana (Merrillville/Crown Point/Gary area).
Joe typically comes though Chicago (but not with DP this time).
I know that would be a hike for you, but it would be worth the trip.
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Wed Jun 2 '04 5:30:26 am
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The Prez
Jared Presley Cincinnati, Ohio USA Plays: Guitar (2024 years)
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If you notice, the main group of people that hendrix inspired was in that day and age, now not as mnay people site him as an influence. people are starting to site people like Randy Rhoads, James Hetfield, Kirt Hammett, Kurt Cobain, Billy Corgan, Steve Vai, etc.
Then by everyones terms here, is influencial=best? I don't like it when mags post best list, who's to say who's the best? To say one artist influenced every genre of music and should be crowned god is absured. No one has done that.
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Wed Jun 2 '04 5:35:11 am
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The Prez
Jared Presley Cincinnati, Ohio USA Plays: Guitar (2024 years)
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Zinc Master Man, I dunno about that, that's too much asking dude. I don't see how my parents would aprrove of that.
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Wed Jun 2 '04 5:38:23 am
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Blue_Moon
Alan McKenna Dublin Ireland Plays: Guitar (23 years)
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is it just me or is there a lot more posting going on! it jus takes more time to catch up
+ anyone got a pic of joe's first guitar?
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Wed Jun 2 '04 5:47:09 am
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civgeek
Matt Dorado Portland, OR USA Plays: Guitar (53 years)
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PREZ - (long sigh) Ok , i'v come to realize that we are not going to agree on this nor is this going to go away. So, I understand your point on Vai crediting Frank. That makes sense they were two peas in a pod. - strange birds. However Vai doesn't play any Zappa covers in his set. He does play Hendrix. Coincidence?
Obviously Johnson, through chronology alone, couldn't have been influenced by Hendrix. My point was that if you trace influences back more people, not just big names, give credit to Hendrix than the others. Including people outside of rock.
Tonni Iomi is going to influence any play who likes that darker sound whether they realize it or not, but Tonni doesn't cross genres as much as Hendrix does.
And Page, well we don't want to start that aguement. Suffice it to say ..He was a good songwriter. I personally never got the whole Zepplin thing. That's my dad. I definately wouldn't put Page down as a great PLAYER, but a very good writer.
I hope that clarifies. It's good to see you sticking to your guns, but let's move on to something new like Meatloaf's influence or the influence of the BeeGees.
Have a good day.
Matt
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Wed Jun 2 '04 5:54:56 am
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MooGz
Morgan Williams Wales Plays: Guitar (24 years)
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The Prez - I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU MAN!, Guitarists, artists, nobody can say that one person is better than the other because there are an infinate ways of comparing people. Like you couldn't just say... This guitarist was better than that guitarist cause he had a better time and was richer. It's all good!
Mikesb - Thanx for the band budgie! My girlfriends pop knows the drummer... they play down my way sometimes... check out DoGZuKi if you get the time.
civgeek - thanx for the website man, i think that picture just says it all... I should come back to that in a couple of months and try again...
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Wed Jun 2 '04 5:55:18 am
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Zinc Master
Zinc Master Crown Point, IN USA
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The Prez
The trip between Chicago and Cincy is about 6 hours or so - granted, that is a long way to go for a concert - but it would be worth it.
Joe regularly makes a stop in Chicago. My sister is in Indy and couldn't make it to his guitar clinic (even though I begged her to go to get a few pictures and an autograph - apparently someone needed to work).
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Wed Jun 2 '04 5:56:47 am
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juju808
Julie James Denver, Colorado Plays: maracas....
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hey all... hope all is gong well with everyone this morning... i have a special favor to ask of you if you dont mind... today my grandfather is going in for surgery in ft wayne indiana and i cant be there, which is tearing me up! I am not sure what you are into but could you send good thoughts/vibes whatever his way?!?!?!? i am hoping all goes well, no more colon cancer, no colostomy, no more transfusions, and hopefully more of his pissy strength, defiance, and attitude will come back to help him get through all of this...
thanks...
juju
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Wed Jun 2 '04 5:59:33 am
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TASTEY
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JUJU: good thoughts headed your way...good luck to gramps....
phy3: beautiful baby....
ovation: PIZZA, beach pizza....its like baseball, you either like tripolis or christies....lol
frenchy du rock: roflmfao!
michelle: nope, as of right now im straight...lol...
clarky: nice, was she cursin you in dutch?
you missed VFR being a little confused about your dive post...lol...
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Wed Jun 2 '04 6:04:10 am
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MooGz
Morgan Williams Wales Plays: Guitar (24 years)
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JuJu- I pray for you man...
Hey evry1 does anybody know where i can get a tab for slick? by satch on his anthology?
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Wed Jun 2 '04 6:11:47 am
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TASTEY
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another stupid joke from gramps:
The Juggler
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A Pennsylvania State Trooper
pulled a car over on I-81
about 2 miles North
of the PA/MD State line.
When the Trooper asked
the driver why he was
speeding, the driver answered
that he was a magician
and a juggler and he
was on his way to Harrisburg
to do a show that night at
the Zembo Shrine Circus
and didn't want to be late.
The Trooper told the driver
he was fascinated by
juggling, and if the
driver would do a little
juggling for him that
he wouldn't give him a
ticket. The driver told
the Trooper that he had
sent all of his equipment on
ahead and didn't have
anything to juggle. The
Trooper told him that
he had some flares in
the trunk of his patrol
car and asked if he could juggle
them. The juggler stated
that he could, so the
Trooper got three flares,
lit them and handed
them to the juggler.
While the man was
doing his juggling act,
a car pulled in behind
the patrol car, a drunk got
out and watched the
performance briefly,
he then went over to
the patrol car, opened
the rear door and got
in. The Trooper
observed him doing
this and went over to
the patrol car, opened
the door and asked the
drunk what he thought
he was doing. The drunk
replied, You might as well
take my ass to jail, cause
there's no way in hell I
can pass that test"
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Wed Jun 2 '04 6:13:15 am
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DavidFallows
David Fallows Burnley, Lancashire England Plays: Guitar (24 years)
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Hey Joe (or anyone else important),
Hope you guys produce a live DVD from the 'Evening with Joe Satriani' tour later this year. The G3 DVDs are OK but not enough if you're looking for a 2hr satch fest. I need to hear more live SBM and ITLIS- Starry Night from the Denver G3 DVD really kicked my ass hard and made it straight onto my personal 'best of' compilation.
Anyhow - here's hoping for at least an hours worth of Satch at the Manchester Apollo on the 24th. ;)
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Wed Jun 2 '04 6:18:53 am
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dragonchild
Eva Viding ENSKEDE, Sweden Plays: Other (27 years)
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Warning- this post contains material that might be offensive to non-Metallica fans. It is also a very long post, so you might want to skip it if you’re short of time.
Metallica gave a concert here in Sweden a few days ago, and the reviews were lyrical. I thought I’d post one of them for all of you that actually still like them lol. I didn’t see the show myself, although the reviews almost made me wish I’d been there. I translated this from Swedish, so any misunderstandings or whatever comes from me lol.
Metallica Part 1
Location: Ullevi, Gothenburg Sweden. Audience: Ca 60 000. Length: About two hours and 20 minutes. Best: "One" – once again. Worst: Apart from a few less brilliant choices of songs, the sound in the beginning of the concert. Question: Hey- what about Dyer’s Eve?
1. Blackened
After an introduction with shaky sound the opening riff from ”And justice for all” explodes in a hail storm of crazy riffs and banging drums.
2. Fuel
None of the groups brighter moments, and despite the nice fires on stage and committed singing from Hetfield this bagatell never comes close.
3. Harvester of sorrow
So heavy that the opening riff would be enough to cause lumbago, and still six minutes of finest metal remains. Kirk’s solo excesses at the end feels quite unnecessary though.
4. Welcome home (Sanitarium)
A caressing nightmare, always welcome, even if ”Fade To Black”- which was played in Copenhagen- is marginally better.
5. Frantic
The audience feedback is massive in the beginning and the end, but as in Copenhagen much of the intensity gets lost in the straggly sound.
6. For whom the bell tolls
The first real ten scorer of the night. The Ernest Hemingway-interpretation is introduced with Robert Trujillo’s skillful bass and ends in a granade shower of piercing guitars. Absolutely brilliant.
7. I disappear
Hangs on the edge of unnecessity, but the new balladintro and some really serious groove stops this soundtrack contribution from going over.
8. St Anger
In spite of twenty-some riffs and time changes this version feels unusually concentrated and complex.
9. Sad but true
As always, bulldozer-like and full of calories.
10. Creeping death
It’s starting to get repetitive to award full score to the single from ”Ride the Lightning”, but as this is one of the absolute best metal songs ever recorded, anything else would be a total underratement.
11. Battery
After a pre-recorded intro all hell breaks loose. Incredibly fast riffing along with an awesomely groovy chorus shows us old school-Metallica at their absolute best.
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Wed Jun 2 '04 6:50:45 am
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dragonchild
Eva Viding ENSKEDE, Sweden Plays: Other (27 years)
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Metallica Part 2
Da Capos - part 1
12. Wherever I may roam
"And the road becomes my bride" This version of the blaster from ’Metallica’ certainly reminds you of the golden age of the early 90-ies.
13. Nothing else matters
Once again Kirk’s spaghetti-guitar introduces the song, and then the notes climb towards the heavens like velvet. You can feel it, heart and soul. The song from the audience drowns out James at several occasions.
14. Master of puppets
The Mammoth-song – eight minutes and a half is after all quite some time- hits the audience almost as hard as in Oslo last December. James is in charge and the audience obeys his slightest wish.
Da Capos – part 2
15. One
After bomb explosions, fireworks and sweeping lights, the story of the living brain is told, a meaningless victim of a pointless war. Totally superior, achingly important – and definitely the most outstanding song of the night.
16. Enter sandman
Obligatory, sure. But a show without this massive hit would not be complete.
Da Capos – part 3
17. Leper messiah
The punch directed to all those hypocritical tv-evangelists out there hits home perfectly. An unexpected choice from ”Master of Puppets”, but brilliant.
18. Seek and destroy
OK, but "Motorbreath", "Jump in the fire", "Whiplash", "The four horsemen" or even "Metal militia" from ”Kill ’em all” would have been better choices.
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Wed Jun 2 '04 6:52:15 am
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ovation1
Mikey D in da house Satch = ZEN Land Of The Rising Sun Plays: Guitar
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JS_JS: Glad your alright man, and yup.... One of those life lessons we learn when we are young, and everything will be ok with your folks.... Just dont do it twice.... ;-)
marimariSRV: JIMI does deserve the crown he wears.... Yes ma'am, I agree, and boy did he make some people want to learn to play, lol!!....
michelle: You are a great daughter too hon!! :-)
Noppa: hehe, Andy will change your life!! ;-) :-)
alexandrecaetano: Summer Mystical Luminous Cool Friends.... haha, love it man!!
:-) And thank's to you my friend for helping make this such a wonderful community!!
:-) BTW, on Gonçalo Pereira is a funny guy, very insane sometimes, a monster of a guitar player.... hehe, that's what makes him so great, lol!! ;-) Thank's for your email too my friend, and bring on the weekend!! :-)
VFRrocker: haha, LMAO @ the reformed lurker, lol, JOE is so addicting I couldnt stay away, and SATCH fans are like a drug, lol!! ;-) We are doing fine man, and I hope all is well on your end!! :-)
The Prez: Are you trying to get a rise outta JOE??.... If you are, change the damn subject, we've heard enough of your thoughts on JIMI.... BTW, like Austin, you never answered my question about SRV throwing your famous because of death theory out the window....
juju808: We hope your GrandPa pulls through with flying colors girl, and T2J get well soon vibes are on the way!!
:-) :-)
TASTEY: haha, lol, I am definately a Christies kind of guy then, lol!!.... Thank's for bringing back the memories, and that reminds me of when my Dad used to take us for a pizza at the Highland Cafe in Malden MA.... Best pizza on the Planet!!!! To this day, I have never tasted one better, lol, those were the days!! :-) BTW, ROTFLMAO on that joke!! ;-)
JIMI Talk....
Jimi stole this, Jimi stole that.... FUCK, when has'nt anyone here (guitar players) stolen from Jimi or EVH!?!?.... Fuck man, that's what you call evolution, it's using your influences and trying to expound on them and make a sound and style all your own!!.... Jimi was in the right place at the right time, and did anyone challenge him back then??.... No!!.... Jimi was a pioneer........
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Wed Jun 2 '04 7:27:59 am
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I posted a message on Andy Timmons board regarding the passing of Derek Frigo (RIP) and asked Andy whether he and Derek had ever crossed paths (they were both Kramer sponsors at one time) this is what Andy had to say here
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Wed Jun 2 '04 7:46:34 am
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michelle
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civgeek, Tower of Power - is that the kick ass group of brass players?
Alexandre, you always make me smile :)
VFR, my husband is saving a bit buy using his old Music Man head (is that what you call it?) lol! He got new tubes for it yesterday, so I guess my son just needs a speaker cabinet now. The drums are going to turn our pockets inside out though. Ah well, it's all good :)
Julie, good thoughts and vibes to your grandpa. Kick ass Gramps!!
Stace, LMAO!! As of right now?? Are you making different plans for your future? lmao!!!
Eva, no time now, but I'll read the interview later. I have tickets for Oct. 19 :)
Mikey, yes, I AM a good daughter. That I know for sure. Thanks! Um...did you say fuck? lol! F THE F'IN F'ERZZZ!!! lol!
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Wed Jun 2 '04 8:10:58 am
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Joeman9
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hey all! get to chat now! anys ways
DCK what's funny?
ovation1 you unleashed the furry didn't you?;-)
JS_JS gee that sucks
My father and I worked on my sister's carburator(sp?) and then my father let me drive it for a while (with him in it of course) and then we get home about 20 min later and my sister wakes up (my dad said I drove really good for a first timer) and then he tells her and she's like "did you wreck my car?! I'm gonna kill you!" and then my dad yells I remember someone whos wrecked it twice and hasn't paid for it and then my sister got one those hurt looks on her face and shut up. It was funny
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Wed Jun 2 '04 8:49:59 am
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MooGz
Morgan Williams Wales Plays: Guitar (24 years)
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hey, i know i keep askin this but does anyone know where to get the guitar tab for slick, or tanscription? on the net?
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Wed Jun 2 '04 8:57:11 am
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