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962
Simon
Granada, Andalucia
Spain
Plays: Guitar (24 years)
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Mr Nick, I started teaching about 12 weeks ago and now have 14 weekly students. It's cool, but teaching beginners is harder than you'd think.

I tend to start off writing down the little rhyme to help remember the EBGDAE standard tuning, and writing out basic open chords, leaving out B and F cause they're not open! If the kid is a quick learner or their friend has taught them 2 chords at school or something like that, then they probably get some dominant 7ths written down in the first lesson too.

By the following week, if they've practised and made good progress I have them choose their favourite chord, and make a rhythm with it, so I can start teaching them to control the guitar with both hands.

So doing that kind of thing can take up 3-4 lessons on average. With that done, I spend a lesson on basic guitar theory, ie, what the notes are at each fret on both E strings, and which fret number is represented by each dot on the 'board. That can take 45 minutes, so in the 6th lesson you can teach them a single-octave major and single-octave pentatonic scale.

In the 7th it's probably a good time to show them how to re-string, so in the 6th you either tell them to buy a pack of Ernie Ball or D'Addario 9-42's, or you tell them you'll get some, and you'll do that the following week.

With that done, you can start teaching them the 5 pentatonic positions, how to make transitions between each position, and how to shift the whole system depending on the key you're in. I teach scales by pattern-recognition rather than by note and key signature cause it's far, far easier for them to understand, and requires no theory.

That's a very basic summary of how my average student gets on.....each one will be different, some will be very good at picking it up and some will be thick as shit. You will find with some kids that you have to go into great depth analysing the way they hold the pick - the right hand is the hardest to get working properly, and you often find yourself constantly telling them to keep their hand relaxed, only hold the pick between thumb and forefinger and let the pick do the work, otherwise they'll break strings.

Don't show them the cool tricks, sweeps, tapping, trem pulls, flicks and dive-bombs unless you get the sense they are not in the mood for learning and are a little disinterested. That's the time to give them a brief glimpse of what a guitar can be used for, and will hook them into paying attention again!

hope that helps! Also, if anyone rings up and says, in a slightly encertain tone, as if they feel they are really being a hassle, "do you teach bass?" say "yes I can teach bass. It's not my first instrument so I cant teach the super advanced techniques, but the basics are exectly the same". bass teaching is fun cause all the hurdles are completely different, and it really makes you think differently as a guitar-player. Good luck, have fun, and if you don't mind me asking, how much are you charging? if you don't want to answer that I understand! hehe


Steven Wilde, thanks for your words of encouragement bro! Man I wish I could take you up on your offer! haha, I'd love to get some proper studio stuff done. However, it can't happen. Still, my mother has paid the best part of a grand for me to get a new PC. I ordered everything yesterday.....I custom-selected every component, so I should get that within a week, I hope. I selected all the components for it to be just plain powerful....no arty nonesense, just brute strength. Also, I selected things which are quiet....."silent" power supply, "silent" cooling system. It's going to be so nice to have something so capable to work with, Cubase is going to be such a joy to use!

Hows your creative process going? I hope you do submit something for the new CD, it would be lacking without you on there!

Mon Feb 7 '05 3:40:42 am Set this message as last read

962
Simon
Granada, Andalucia
Spain
Plays: Guitar (24 years)
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njbeast, sorry to hear about your Gran's illness. I hope it doesn't cause her much pain and suffering. Good to hear your new system arrived.....I ordered one yesterday, it's going to be a pretty decent improvement over what I have been using, I can't wait!
Mon Feb 7 '05 3:41:17 am Set this message as last read

Mr Nick

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OCPS470..thanks for the advice. i had thought of the playing position a little while after i posted, like thumb position and holding the plectrum and that. 3 simple chords, E,D and A in open positions as an intro to the caged system, as thats the first thing i did with my guitar teacher years ago. if i get anmy more problems and/or questions..i'll give you a shout.

962..thanks for the advice. your doing something different to what i had planned, but i'll take some of that on board as a guide for future lessons. only thing is with the first kid, he has no guitar, i guess if things turn out ok, he could borrow my older 2nd guitar for practising. i agree that shapes are easier to go for for beginners than theory..and i was planning on doing that in future lessons for playing over chords. I'll look through my notes i got, and most likely change them. and i haven't got a bass guitar ;) i charge £10 for 45 minutes...what about you?

Mon Feb 7 '05 5:00:00 am Set this message as last read

Stevee T

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Steven Wilde...Sorry to hear you feeling down...we all have those lousy days...like mikesb said...if you can get your mind off it, and focus on something else...hope you have a brighter day!!! Peace, Love & Happiness
Mon Feb 7 '05 5:01:54 am Set this message as last read

Zenfish

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Mon Feb 7 '05 5:12:29 am Set this message as last read

Zinc Master
Zinc Master
Crown Point, IN
USA
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Stevee T

I don't recall hearing that Joe would do some Playstation soundtracks. It may be possible, but I do not have a specific recollection of that.

Mon Feb 7 '05 5:26:19 am Set this message as last read

Stevee T

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the end is the continuation & a beginning......
Mon Feb 7 '05 5:27:17 am Set this message as last read

Stevee T

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Zinc...I thunk I read it on some article within this website...it might have been a couple of years old...?
Mon Feb 7 '05 5:35:00 am Set this message as last read

Donkey Hotay

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Zen an Eruption is a release of excruciating pressure, it may be solid, liquid or gaseous, it may be verbal, mineral, cellular or facial......

An eruption may be born in fire, earth, water or..... thought.

It may be a beginning .... or an end!!

Edited Mon Feb 7 '05 5:53 am

Mon Feb 7 '05 5:46:56 am Set this message as last read

Zinc Master
Zinc Master
Crown Point, IN
USA
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Stevee T

I did read something about a musician doing it recently - maybe Vai?

Mon Feb 7 '05 5:49:25 am Set this message as last read

Zinc Master
Zinc Master
Crown Point, IN
USA
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Jazzy

Are you a golfer?

Or just a fan of a character in a movie?

Mon Feb 7 '05 5:49:51 am Set this message as last read

Zenfish

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Mon Feb 7 '05 5:51:43 am Set this message as last read

Stevee T

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Zinc...if I have a moment I'll search some of the articles that I might have read...see if I can find it!

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ZennyBenny....howdee doodee!

Mon Feb 7 '05 5:54:47 am Set this message as last read

Donkey Hotay

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Zen, metal's pig=pig metal="slag" therefore I baptise you in fire ZenSlag....
Mon Feb 7 '05 5:56:12 am Set this message as last read

Donkey Hotay

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Time to go horseback riding.. Kids have a day off, hope it does not rain +5C, too warm for February in Canada what is going on???

Expected to go up to +11C sometime this week more like "Cannes"ada, I wish!!!!

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Mon Feb 7 '05 5:59:03 am Set this message as last read

Zinc Master
Zinc Master
Crown Point, IN
USA
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One morning a husband took a pair of underwear out of the drawer.

"What the ? ? ?" he said to himself as a little "dust" cloud appeared when he shook them out.

"April," he hollered into the bathroom, "why did you put talcum powder in my underwear?"

She shot back: "It's not talcum powder. It's 'Miracle Grow'."

Mon Feb 7 '05 6:02:29 am Set this message as last read

Zinc Master
Zinc Master
Crown Point, IN
USA
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Stevee T

Ok - great. If it is Joe, GREAT !!

Mon Feb 7 '05 6:02:57 am Set this message as last read

Donkey Hotay

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Zinc, things grow well in April...........

I am going to see the horses now.. They have no growth problems...

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Mon Feb 7 '05 6:03:56 am Set this message as last read

Zinc Master
Zinc Master
Crown Point, IN
USA
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mikesb

Just watch out for the powder

Mon Feb 7 '05 6:24:37 am Set this message as last read

Zinc Master
Zinc Master
Crown Point, IN
USA
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WORDS WOMEN USE


FINE

This is the word women use to end an argument when you are right and you need to shut up.


FIVE MINUTES

If she is getting dressed, this is half an hour. Five minutes is only five minutes if you have just been given 5 more minutes to watch the game before helping around the house.


NOTHING

This is the calm before the storm. This means "something," and you should be on your toes. Arguments that begin with 'Nothing' usually end in "Fine"


GO AHEAD

This is a dare, not permission. Don't do it !


LOUD SIGH

This is not actual ly a word, but is a non-verbal statement often misunderstood by men. A "Loud Sigh" means she thinks you are an idiot and wonders why she is wasting her time standing here and arguing with you over "Nothing"


THAT'S OKAY This is one of the most dangerous statements that a woman can make to a man. "That's Okay" means that she wants to think long and hard before deciding how and when you will pay for your mistake.


THANKS A woman is thanking you. Do not question it or faint. Just say you're welcome.


Send this to the men you know to warn them about future arguments they can avoid, if they remember the terminology!

Mon Feb 7 '05 6:27:01 am Set this message as last read

slanshroom
roy marchbank
Scotland, Barcelona
Spain
Plays: Guitar (51 years)
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Stevee T:Good Morning t y chief

Zinc:THAT'S OKAY This is one of the most dangerous statements that a woman can make to a man. "That's Okay" means that she wants to think long and hard before deciding how and when you will pay for your mistake....i,m breakin m balls laughin,very good

Mon Feb 7 '05 6:41:56 am Set this message as last read

juju808
Julie James
Denver, Colorado
Plays: maracas....
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Jazzy- are you a big Kashmir fan? I LOVE those guys, but very rarely can i find someone in america who even knows what i am talking about... which one are you listening to?

962-hope all of your computer problems have straightened themselves out, they can be so maddening!

Slanshroom- lol on the pic... yeah i think there was a lot of talent running through the Lee family.... and being compared to brandon is not a bad thing ;) hope you have a good week...

havent been feeling so good the last few days so i spent yesterday on the couch having a Kevin Smith-athon... I had never seen "an evening with" before and OMG funny hearing some of his stories... then clerks, mallrats, and dogma... fun... much more fun than seeing the pats win again...

Anyway, hope all in Satchland have an amazing week!

juju

Mon Feb 7 '05 6:42:15 am Set this message as last read

Ibanez89
James Abbott
Bagnara Calabra, Reggio Calabria (RC)
Italia
Plays: Guitar (35 years)
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M A R L E N E

T E

Q U E R O

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Mon Feb 7 '05 6:58:42 am Set this message as last read

rally107107
joe shirsty
changchun,
CHINA
Plays: Drums (26 years)
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Hello!Everyone! I am a chinese my english is every poor. I want to know Joe's E-mail immediately.If someone know it , please tell me as soon as possible.Thanks.
Mon Feb 7 '05 7:02:07 am Set this message as last read

DelfinoPie
Martin Phillips
King Of Monsters
Plays: Doctors & Nurses (
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Jazzzzzzzzy I recent the e-mail, but heres my address just in case.

pie_sites@hotmail.com

Michelle I watched some of the super bowl last night...even though I wasn't really following what was going on until the 2nd quarter...then my eyes started itching/ burning like mad, as they do when I'm tired out of my mind so I went to bed. But yeah Mcnabb was throwing some unbelievably bad passes lol...ah well I wanted the Patriots to win so I can't say anything.

"ROTF!!!

Roll on the floor farting? lol

Steven Wilde A loud amp is a happy amp...and leads to pissed off neighbours but ah who cares...if they want to knock on the door to complain you cant hear them because you're too busy rocking it waywards...oh yes indeedy, tis the way to live....LOUD! :-)

Delfino
Mon Feb 7 '05 7:56:28 am Set this message as last read
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