962
Simon
Granada, Andalucia
Spain
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JS_JS/petrucci_js, no Joe didn't teach Petrucci! He taught Jeff/Geoff Tyson though, who is pretty awesome. I got a copy of "T-Ride" yesterday and have been listening to it, it's really unusual, but very good.
ka girl, good to hear your bro is okay...that accident could have been so much more messy! I hope he's being careful!
petrucci_js, I'm not sure I'd say Dream Theater are the "greatest progressive rock band on the planet".....they're more Prog Metal, and saying they're the greatest is a bit harsh on the pioneers, like King Crimson. Also, they made the mistake of releasing "Train Of Thought". hehe. Just my opinion though...sorry, I should keep quiet.
Delfino, thanks very much for the branding as one of the "oustanding" guitar players on this site! You're very generous! Dude, I wish I could help you with your sweeping but it's a technique which I'm still trying to learn myself. I find it really hard, so I'll be interested to see what other people suggest.
All I have really been able to figure out is that if you start off too slow you won't learn anything, and also that if you can play the arpeggio with just your left hand (no picking at all, and maybe cross your arms to mute with the right hand or something, but that may not help) you're pretty much set to go. The bit that seems to take time getting used to is being 100% accurate with the left hand.
But, like I said, I can't do it myself, which is why it never gets included in anything I record! haha
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962: "To each his own," I guess. Maybe I should have said "My favorite" instead of "greatest on the planet!"
aussieRGman: I'm sorry today was a bad day for you. Hope the rest of the week goes better.
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Thu Jun 23 '05 2:25:11 pm
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Stevee T
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civgeeks...conrats on the accomplishment!
Delfino...without hearing it...I'd have to say...extreme measures for extreme results....
Clarky...probably 8-9 hours of driving...I go half that way to visit with Greg Howe!
ka girl...LISF is great stuff!!
Johnny_E...use it well!
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Crazy man i was just thinking man if donny petersen is reading this he,ll remeber who i am i use to be the president of the rock machine man and i always got along with donny and so did the vice pres there is saying the para-dice and santans choice have turned in to hells angels man so i dont know i know my term is long overwith and i still get along with donny i think man later wolf2.
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maestro_89
Tony T
London, Middlesex
England
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delfino - sweeping sounds most flowing on the neck pickup. Also, try loosening your wrist and grip on the pick a little so that it glances off the strings easier and just keep doing the same thing until it sounds good. hope that helps.
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Thu Jun 23 '05 3:29:03 pm
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gotta have Joe
Kayla Whitham
Butte, Mt
USA
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stevee t: yes it is great stuff, it is better that great. :) (I think)
962: yes it could have been alot more messy, but it is a good thing that it wasn't. My dad did the same thing on the same finger/hand when he was my bros age.
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MARCIA BARBOSA
São Paulo, SÃO PAULO
BRAZIL
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Congrats for all those guys on T2JCD !
Muzic4me5150: Nice words! really great!
Dear Son: how is everything? hope you are really fine!
Keniko: I'm happy you enjoyed the photos ! I wish I could do something like that!! Bruno knows somethings about photoshop, illustrator and coreldraw. I don't know who did that great job. I will send others cool things!
Brother al: Beautiful Moon !
SteveeT: :-) , congrats on T2J CD !
MariMari: have a great time in August on the seminar ! I'll send you others great photos!
The question is : Where is Big Bunny? Jazzzy? Bahduh? Steven Wilde? Lucy Sorets ? I miss these guys !!!
Kisses to everybody!
JOE : YOU ARE THE BEST !!!!!!!
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That was like 14-18 yr,s old man i use to have apretty wild custom bike garage in quebec man were you could buy a real biker bike like before all these chopper shops are around now man i know this guy hey whomtried out for santans choice yrs ago but didnt make it anyways yrs ago i tokk him over and showed him all the presidents goodies man the vice pres didnt want him i offered to take him on aburn with us but he was scared and wanted to get back to ontario anyways thats about it later wolf2.
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gotta have Joe
Kayla Whitham
Butte, Mt
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silent_shady: mmmm good question. j/k. yeah today I busted my knee wide open, so I think that maybe tomorrow it is my dads turn. lol j/k.
You have a really cool name. It is probably one of my fav names. After Joe of course.
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Thu Jun 23 '05 4:49:22 pm
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Kayla Whitham
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alex: yes I love everything Joe related. I cant help it though. :)
I am out to so I will catch you peeps tomorrow. Bye.
Joe: hope that you have had a great week. Bye. Stay Happy.
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climber
Don Cutler
Washington
USA
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Hey everyone.
The dream is coming together. I haven't been posting much. I have been working on a full blown studio. It's been a lot of work. From the ground up literally! No kidding! I mean, I used a bulldozer and cut a road in!
In a month it will be a fully optical studio.
Please check it out at Swamp Studios.
I always value your opinons, and criticisms.
After all, this is Satriani.com, where all the cool people are. LOL.
Don.
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OCPS470
Chris Peters
Lake Mary, FL
USA
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Delfino: I've got a few tips for sweeps. Lay your hand on the strings in the shape of the sweep you need to do, then fret one finger at atime. As you go to the next note, leave the fingers on the strings to deaden the string as you leave it. With the right hand, the biggest mistake you can make is to think of sweeping as a strum motion. Also, don't loosen your pick grip, or change anything like that when you sweep. I've found that the best sweep motion, is to push up and down through the strings (like a raking motion) instead of a wristy strum motion. I think you'll have beter luck with that.
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slanshroom
roy marchbank
Scotland, Barcelona
Spain
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Les Paul is God
Jellythings:Zen,in no way whatsoever i mean to push you to the side regarding your music or me playing on it friend.Ronnie controls what i do with music now,he calls the shots,its in no way reflective on your ideas of music bro,its just more of i need to move on,i know y understand.My time for being free to do whatever i want in music is ending eg:Recording with whoever i care.I must think pro from now,a little sad,a little happy
On a better note so to speak,we must talk on how we get to your abode,mail me soon bro on directions.eg Do we go by train or should we hire a car etc
Adios for now poet of the blues
Stevee T:Ahoy der captin,should have ye ol flash t listen the clips on site,around 2 weeks,if y have quicktime or windows media 10 you can listen.Cant believe it,25 years of blood,sweat & tears in around 40 mins,but it was worth every second.......A personal achievement,one which in no way shape or form could be done without Ronnie,hes playing a blinder
Fablawyer:Thanks man,i have no words for your incredible effort these last 4 years, happy birthday cous
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962
Simon
Granada, Andalucia
Spain
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climber, I tried looking at the photos of the studio but the site has too much flash for my geriatric dial-up to handle. Sounds like a pretty awesome project though!
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Clarky
Paul Clark
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www.paul-clark.com
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js_js - I thought that Petrucci honed his skills at one of the big famous music schools like Berkely or MIT or something like that....
I think I recall - but I'm not 100% sure - that DT all met at that college.. a bunch of pals playing Rush covers and that sort of thing.. and then they evolved into DT, got famous, got rich, and lived happily ever after
but I don't think Satch had anything to do with it....
One thing I'm pretty sure about is that Petrucci does not even list Satch as a major influence..
his influences are - in his own words - "are all Steve's and Al's"...
Steve Howe, Steve Hacket, Steve Vai
Alan Holdsworth, Alex Lifeson, Al Di'Miola
Michelle - the plasters came off yesterday...
stupid bollox here is playing again... lol..
I didn't play for around 4 days - I started goin' cold turkey.. lol..
SteeveT - 8 - 9 hours driving??... just to see me??...
fuck ! ! ! you must be insane.. lmao.....
wow... shit..... I dunno what to say to that.... jeez....
you just blew me away...
Delfino - I'll echo what OCPS says regarding the sweeping tips... good words there... and in addition.....
if you need to play two notes on the same string when starting the sweep then picking it will have better definition than hammering on / pulling off..
example -
you're sweeping Em using the 'barre Am' fingering - barre at the 7th fret
the 1st two notes are E and G, and they are both on the 5th string....
you could start the sweep with a downstroke, hammer-on the G, and then continue the sweep across the rest of the strings...
the difficulty here is getting the timing right as the picking hand has to wait for the hammer-on before continuing with the sweep... not easy...
the penalty is most often poor synchronisation - resulting in a scruffy sweep...
alternatively, pick both notes at the start so that the picking hand is in constant motion - this eliminates the "wait" caused by the hammer-on and means that synchronisation occurs right from the start of the lick...
"but Clarky, the sweep is one long downstroke so how do I pick two notes on the same string??.." I hear you shout..
you start with an upstroke for the E, then sweep with a down stroke from the G......
now if you gently palm-mute you'll get a very nice little side effect...
nice solid, thumping definition from the wrapped strings - which does not ome out so well if you hammer-on...
you can use this in reverse too with down-sweeps
although I tend to pull-off more in this direction because I prefer the tone...
another important element is using the thumb of your fretting hand as a pivot... your knuckles will move in a timed "rolling" movement so that you are only holding down a single note at a time - unlike playing a regular chord
your picking hand synchronises with this rolling movement..
jeez this is difficult to describe and I'm not sure that I'm doing it well....
this is one of those things that I could show you and within 20 seconds you'll be like "oh yeah.... cool... is that all it is??"
one last little thing about sweeping....
it's one of those very strange techniques [just like legato and tapping] where playing slowly is actually more difficult than playing quickly....
however, you have to practice slowly to get the mechanical feeling of the synchronisation and muting right...
once you sound pretty reasonable at pretty slow tempi, you'll find that you can pile on the tempo and get this up to speed very quickly... [just like when you learned tapping]
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So Clarky you must be mighty impressed then that Stevee T will drive twice as far to see lil ol you than he is willing to drive for lessons with...........Greg friggin Howe!!!!!!
Stevee, you are one cool and loyal dude on a quest!!!
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