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962
Simon
Granada, Andalucia
Spain
Plays: Guitar (24 years)
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Rob310, I haven't seen the JS2K or JS90HAM in person, only in photos on the net. The 90HAM is kind of an odd one to me......it's such a dark shade it's almost black, and there's nothing really about it that makes it stand out. I really hope they do something wild for the 100th anniversary in 2008!


gotta have joe, you can win aftershow passes from here on the Joe 'board. You can also buy various packages, the platinum experience giving you backstage passes for the entire show (and soundchecks if it's anything like the Vai ones), and the most opportunities to shake Joe firmly by the hand and tell him he is the daddy. I can't remember how much those packages cost - it's either around $120 or closer to $200.....I'm optimistic that it's the former, but $120 is still a lot of money to spend on a concert ticket!
Keniko, I'm pretty happy with the 3.6 gig processor in my PC. Also, having a PC makes it easy for me to add facilities to it and give it extra functionality - at some point it will get a TV card so I can record VHS to hard disc, record SCART to hard disc, and watch/record TV off live broadcast which is cool 'cause I could have my favourite shows on DVD. I do intend also to give it an extra half gig of RAM so I can dual-channel it. But I don't need any of this at the moment 'cause it's running brilliantly.

And for powered monitors I still reckon Alesis Monitor One MkII's are the best option......they are certainly what I'll be getting, some time next year when I've paid for the other stuff I've yet to pay for! haha.


Anybody know where I can get some really good TAB for More Than Words?
cheese101, haha, you're cracking me up....love your little Ibanez Chromieeee song! hehe
Wed Oct 19 '05 1:35:19 am Set this message as last read

Master Yoda
Neil Morgan
York, North Yorkshire
England
Plays: Guitar (30 years)
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Vai today!!!!! Guess I'll be seeing some of you in a few hours then...

962 - Just figure that one out by ear, dude; it's well easy!!! Or do you mean the utterly pointless widdly bit right at the end?

NM

Wed Oct 19 '05 2:14:56 am Set this message as last read

Zenfish

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Part II:

JOE & PROGRESSIV STUFF.

Joe gets the blues. We all know that. His biggest admitted influences on guitar come from Blues: Hooker, Hendrix, Gibbons. & the less admitted also: Beck, Gilmour, Page, Van Halen.

Historic point : The progressive rock stuff has nothing to see with the blues riff. It has broken the usual rules of the riff and the song : this stuff goes farther than the arrangement couplet/refrain. The progressive stuff has found his regularity in the progressiv irregularity of a concept. A non-standard harmonic/dissonant structures & alternate tunings could be a definition of Progressive stuff.

In fact, the first principle of Progressive stuff is the VARIATION of a theme. That is the opposite of almost all the Blues, of which the first principle is the REPETITION of a riff. That is the essential distinction.

Of course, nowadays, things have evolved a lot, and we can hear progressive variations in repetition (Satch : Searching : the solo is progressive on only one riff). & also the opposite (Dream Theater : A Change of seasons : all the stuff is progressive, but the poetic idea is the repetition of changing).

In my feeling, Joe has defined himself his own progressive stuff, with precisely the alternation of riff & progression, alternation of repetition & variation. His progressive attack is before all a theater of riffs where his solos are like actors who play their part.

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Wed Oct 19 '05 2:49:52 am Set this message as last read

SJ IbanezMaster
Stéphane Jouin
Saint Viaud
France
Plays: Guitar (22 years)
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eh joe you got to come to qatar this year !!

THERE WILL BE A DUNESTOCK !!!!!!

THATS GONNA BE GREAT !!! jamming in the dersert !!!

Wed Oct 19 '05 3:01:53 am Set this message as last read

FrankTank

Plays: Keyboards (2024 years)
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Hi Joe, I'm a huge fan and I got a big thrill when I met you at Allans in Melbourne when you toured here in March. Can't wait for the new G3 DVD. Will you ever bring G3 down under? Are there any immediate or semi-immediate plans to?? All the best,

Frank.

Wed Oct 19 '05 3:10:28 am Set this message as last read

Two Shay

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And I think to myself......

Brother Al needs therapy! LOL

Keep rocking the blarney stone Alan!

Wed Oct 19 '05 3:16:39 am Set this message as last read

Two Shay

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Scuse the double post

Blue Moon

Sorry for using your old nickname but I couldn't really say that a blue moon needed therapy!!

Steve.

Wed Oct 19 '05 3:20:04 am Set this message as last read

Zenfish

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Part III:

SPEED: SATCH & VAN HALEN

A)

Is Joe Satriani influenced by EVH?

"EVH is a savior of guitar"

"I've got a Peavey 5150 since it is" Joe Satriani.

Is it clear?

B)

The Joe's speed attack is almost always synthetic. & That's very near of VH.

Any doubt? For an evidence, check the solos of the song "I'm the One" on the Van Halen album.

A speed attack almost always synthetic: what does that mean? That means that the important point isn't the execution of emotion & expression in the speed notes after notes, even if Joe can have an analytic attack; the important point is the fact that the general form of the speed is the emotion & expression. The effect is like a wave. Joe is almost always surfing on the speed as if it's a united wave. Joe plays melodicaly the speed.

That's very different of a Malmsteen shredding, which is more analytic. The emotion is like touching each point of the execution. Yngwie plays quick the melody.

The speed with Joe is an essential condition of the hardrock & also a synthetic embellishment for his lyric expression in all the styles. & that comes from Van Halen. But Joe combines the VH shredding with the Hendrix Legato. Joe Satriani is probably the first guitar player who has definitly understood that the Hendrix legato + Van Halen Shredding = a new vision of guitar rock.



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Wed Oct 19 '05 3:30:44 am Set this message as last read

Zenfish

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Part IV:

THE JOE'S GENIUS IS IN BIG PART ROCKBLUES FUSION. BUT WHERE IS THE BLUE SIDE OF THIS FUSION?

THIS BLUE SIDE IS HERE:

Not of this Earth : (NOTE) Rockblues melodical.

Rubina : Romantic blues. (NOTE)

Brother John : Blues thematic of chords expanded as a jazz. (NOTE)

Ice 9 : Hardblues (SWTA)

Always with me Always with you : Romantic Blues. (SWTA)

Satch Boogie : Swinghardblues (a variation of La Grange). (SWTA)

Hill of Skull : Spleen. (SWTA)

Midnight : Romantic Blues. (SWTA)

Echo : Rockblues melodical. (SWTA)

Flying in a blue dream : Rockblues melodical. (FIABD)

Headless : Rockblues. (FIABD)

I Believe : Romantic blues (FIABD)

Big Bad Moon : Hardblues (FIABD)

The Feeling : Countyblues (FIABD)

The Phone Call : Countryblues (FIABD)

Day at the Beach (new rays from an ancient sun) : Romantic blues (FIABD)

Ride : Rockblues funky. (FIABD)

The Forgotten (1/2) : Romantic blues. (FIABD)

Into the Light : Strauss blues....lol (FIADB)

Cryin' : Romantic Blues (TE)

Friends : Rockblues (TE)

New Blues : Blues romantic (TE)

Tears In The Rains : Spleen (TE)

The Extremist : Hardblues (TE)

Cool #9 : Rockblues funky (JS95)

If : Progressiv Rockblues (JS95)

Down Down Down : Blues melodical (JS95)

Luminous Flesh Giants : Progressiv hardblues (JS95)

SMF : Blues (JS95)

Look My Way : Country blues (JS95)

Home : Romantic blues (JS95)

Moroccan Sunset : Oriental Blues (JS95)

Slow Down Blues : Progressiv blues/rock/hard (Something to see with the Jeff Beck Big Block) (JS95)

(You're) My World : Rockblues melodical (JS95)

Sittin' Round : Traditional blues (JS95)

Champagne? : Blues progressiv (EOC)

Clouds Race Across The Sky : Spacial Melodic Bluesrock (EOC)

The Power Cosmic 2000 part I : Strauss blues....lol (EOC)

Until we say Goodbye : Romantic blues (EOC)

Slow & easy : Oriental Blues (EOC)

Engines of Creation : Rockblues melodical (EOC)

House of the bullets : Hardblues(CP)

Love thing : Romantic Blues (CP)

With Jupiter In Mind : Hardblues .....yeahhhhhhh i love this one!!!!! (CP)

A Piece Of Liquid : Oriental blues (CP)

Psycho Monkey : Hardblues (CP)

Time : Progressiv rockblues(CP)

ZZ's song : Blues melodic (CP)

Oriental Melody : Progressiv oriental rockblues (SBM)

Starry night : Progressiv melodic countryrockblues (SBM)

Mind Storm : Progressiv hardblues (SBM)

Mountain song : Romantic Rockblues (SBM)

What Breaks A Heart : Progressiv romantic hardrockblues (SBM)

Seven String : Progressiv Hardblues. (SBM)

Hill groove : Blues melodical (SBM)

The Traveler : Progressiv Rockblues melodical (SBM)

You saved my life : Romantic blues (SBM)

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Sorry, but i don't like ITLIS?, too much formated, few inspired.

ITLIS? is rockblues routine.

Wed Oct 19 '05 3:43:45 am Set this message as last read

Zenfish

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Part V:

ONCE MORE, JOE SATRIANI WITH FEW WORDS.

Turned up in 1986 with the very discrete Not of this Earth, Joe Satriani has opened the way to a new generation of guitar rock players: the concert artists. Indeed, when Satriani starts to change the instrumental landscape of rock & hardrock guitar, the rythmical ground is built. From Chuck Berry until Eddie Van Halen, with some incredible players like Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, Jimi Hendrix, Alvin Lee, Ritchie Blackmore, Jimmy Page, Steve Howe, Robert Fripp, David Gilmour, The brothers Young, Tony Iommi, Randy Rhoads, the rythmical rock & hardrock guitar with some good solos is like a complete Art. It's in this solid climate, & while a little unknown called James Hetfield is changing all the rythmical attitude, signing something like the end of Hardrock & the begining of Metal, that Joe explodes all the limits of Hardrock'n'roll with the now mythic Surfing with the Alien. The technics of Wahwah legato, sweeping, hammering & alernated pick are unheard of. The quality of melodical inspiration is out of doubt. The riffs are simple & efficient. The sounds are absolutely avant-gardist, prefiguring, after Pink Floyd & Van Halen, the techno music's sonorities as nobody in the rock world .

With an exigency of technical perfection total & a lyrical concern for melody & beauty, little by little, Joe is gonna to give a new defintion of the riff, more & more progressiv without get out of the riff attitude. His solo is an incredible fusion of classical music & Rockblues. All his music is like a lyrical theater of riff which goes across the time & the genres ( Rock, Hardrock, Funk, Blues, Country, Classique, Metal, Techno, Pop) without never lose his deep blues & rock'n'roll roots.

Probably the greatest rock player of the last 20 years.

Wed Oct 19 '05 4:41:09 am Set this message as last read

Donkey Hotay

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Zen, Holy shit man you are waxing poetic and philosophical again!!! I told you in the past to log or blog these streams of verbal creativety that overwhelm you from time to time!! save them for posterity!!

Note: in the past week i have relistened to SBM by Joe several times and am almost convinced that it is one of my very favorites (though not neccessarily a "fan" favorite) there is a lot of brain and soul in that album........

Wed Oct 19 '05 5:21:05 am Set this message as last read

Zinc Master
Zinc Master
Crown Point, IN
USA
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Private Investigations: The Very Best of Dire Straits & Mark Knopfler

A career-spanning two-CD compilation gathering highlights of the renowned British guitarist's work with his former band and as a solo artist, will be released Nov. 15. The 21-track collection offers at least one song from each of Dire Straits' classic studio efforts. Private Investigations also includes "All the Roadrunning," a tune from Knopfler's upcoming duets album with folk-country songbird Emmylou Harris that is due out next year.

Wed Oct 19 '05 5:31:01 am Set this message as last read

LucySorets
Lucia Ballesteros
Madrid, Madrid
Spain
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Hi everyone!

michelle, glad to know the weather is better there!

Blue Moon, Brother Al, I like more the nick Michelle suggested for you "Moon Baby" than "Blue Moon" hehe ;-)

gotta have Joe, Kayla, if your ??? are referred to the words "es un placer enseñarte un poquito más de español" I told you the day before yesterday, these words mean "it's a pleasure to show you a little more Spanish..." ;-)

Clarky, "Lucy - big shout to all the Libra the Frog types....Yaaaaayyyyyy..."

LOL Is there any relation between frogs and Libras? It's weird but I love frogs!

962, "Anybody know where I can get some really good TAB for More Than Words?"

Simon, try this site : http://www.mxtabs.net/songs.php?path=Guitar,e,477,Extreme

If the tabs are not good enough, I have some other links, let me know :-)

Zenfish, If you haven't made it already, you could write a book someday...You have a very refreshing perspective.

Talk To Joe gang at Vai's English gigs, enjoy and have lots of fun!



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Wed Oct 19 '05 5:31:36 am Set this message as last read

Stevee T

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Zenfish...is full...like a juicy watermelon about to burst in the summer Sun...maybe..he just did....nice stuff

mikesb...always loved SBM...great stuff...

Joe Satriani...still use the Fat Finger from time to time?

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Wed Oct 19 '05 5:32:52 am Set this message as last read

McDave

Cook, MN

Plays: Guitar (40 years)
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spizazz....wow..for a second there I thought those were pic's of Joe...especially the pic where you are singing into the mike....geez, and I thought I was a diehard fan...lol !

cuthbert....ok..so maybe I would'nt subject the family gems to that kind of abuse....I was just trying to be funny. It's more interesting than the poetic and political BS that people are posting in here on a regular basis. At least one or two people in here think that the rest of us don't read the newspaper and feel the need to paste (in here) everything that they read....it's getting old.

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Wed Oct 19 '05 5:33:53 am Set this message as last read

LucySorets
Lucia Ballesteros
Madrid, Madrid
Spain
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Some facts about Libra dedicated to all the Libras of the forum...

"Libra, the Balance (Scales)
Libra (LIE-brah) is the seventh constellation of the Zodiac for birthdates from 23 September to 22 October. It is fairly difficult to recognize in the real sky and is not shown on the FCPS Starfinder.
Libra is the only constellation of the Zodiac which represents an inanimate object. It was added to the Zodiac by the Romans. This group of stars is called the balance because in ancient times, the Fall Equinox (when days and nights are equal in duration) occurred when the Sun was "in" Libra. The abbreviation for a pound (lb), an English unit of weight, originates from Libra.

Associated Mythology - Libra is associated with many different stories in mythology:

Mechus, the inventor of weights
Astraea, the Goddess of Justice
Julius Caesar, as a symbol of his justice
The balance of the seasons
The balance of the light and dark of Fall"

(Excerpt from "Your Guide to the Constellations", by Lowell L. Koontz, former Planetarium Teacher at Edison High School, Fairfax County Public Schools)

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Wed Oct 19 '05 5:36:49 am Set this message as last read

McDave

Cook, MN

Plays: Guitar (40 years)
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cuth....I know...lol ! Peace Bro'.....SD

Hmm...maybe we should go to chat...lol...aw hell, I can't...I gotta go to work. Catch up later.

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Wed Oct 19 '05 6:22:52 am Set this message as last read

Namm Man

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Good Morning!

Pancakes for everybody!

Namm Man

Wed Oct 19 '05 6:28:49 am Set this message as last read

Zinc Master
Zinc Master
Crown Point, IN
USA
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Dog Attacks Anti-Dangerous Dog Bill Author


ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. - The author of a new state law that allows felony charges against owners of dangerous dogs was hospitalized over the weekend after his own dog attacked him.

Bob Schwartz, who also is Gov. Bill Richardson's crime adviser, was hospitalized at University of New Mexico Hospital on Sunday night with bites on both his arms, said Pahl Shipley, a spokesman for the governor.

A hospital spokeswoman declined to release Schwartz's condition, but Shipley said Schwartz is "going to be fine."

Schwartz has three dogs registered with the city: a boxer and two English bulldogs, said Denise Wilcox, who oversees Albuquerque's animal care centers.

Schwartz was instrumental in getting a law passed during this year's regular legislative session that would allow felony charges to be filed against owners of dogs deemed dangerous or potentially dangerous and that seriously injure or kill another animal or person.

The law was designed to make dog owners accountable, said Sen. Sue Wilson Beffort, who worked with Schwartz to pass the bill.

"But I guess when it happens in your own family, that's another story," she said. "That's tragic."

Wilcox said Sunday her office had not received a bite report from University hospital, which is required when a dog bite leads to medical attention.

Wed Oct 19 '05 6:29:53 am Set this message as last read

death cube k

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zenfish ya got mail back.... after your explainations i think i play spleen.. LOL
Wed Oct 19 '05 7:09:18 am Set this message as last read

Donkey Hotay

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DCK/Zen Whaddya do if you happen to be one of the hundreds who have had their spleens removed as a result of sporting injuries etc etc??

LMBFAO

Wed Oct 19 '05 7:14:51 am Set this message as last read

Keniko
Ken Erickson
Addison, IL.
U.S.A.
Plays: Guitar (54 years)
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Good Morning Satchland.......How are you today?

962...... To me there's no Mac vs. PC. I think it's whatever your comfortable with or choose your software and buy the computer that runs it. I thought about a PC when designing my studio. I thought about it for a long time. I stayed with Mac cause I was familiar with it and I knew I was only going to use it for music and for DVD production. If I was going to multitask with it (keep records, on line banking...ect.) I deffinetly would of went PC. PC rules the business world and leaves a Mac in the dust especially with software options. I'm happy with the Mac especially with iMovie and iDVD. When Garage Band came out it was like a savior. Now you can create song ideas almost on the fly and import them into Pro Tools. I wish iTunes would have some kind of ripping software with basic editing. Maybe a future upgrade?

Suzo.....I'm glad you like your Mac. What are the things you like about the Mac over PC? I don't use a PC alot and Im curious. FYI..... My original bassist is back and he's English. Mick is a great guy and I'm glad he's back. Our personalities blend perfectly and that helps a great deal for many reasons.

Mari...... Happy to see you post. Sounds like all is well. Have fun. Get back to the states safe. Hugs to you.

Chee..... Great song. I wish I had a chrommie to. I lookin' into a JS1000 when I can afford one. Have your son post his opinion on his XTLive. I'm curious. I want one of those to. Yes....I'm a gear slut. I admit it.

Joe..... Let's see some Blue Baby ! ! ! Hugs to the family and crew.

Have A Great Day Everyone ! ! !

Wed Oct 19 '05 7:36:06 am Set this message as last read

death cube k

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cuthbert1776 no, there was no explaination.. but the experimental tracks were spleen
mikesb i guess they take up guitar.
Wed Oct 19 '05 7:40:24 am Set this message as last read

OCPS470
Chris Peters
Lake Mary, FL
USA
Plays: Guitar (28 years)
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962: I agree about the PC side of things...actually I think the whole Mac vs. PC thing is a load of crap. Both basically work similarly and have their minor ups and downs, but as long as you get something of quality built around your needs, you're going to get pretty great performance and reliability. For example, I've got an HP workstation which is set up specifically to be beefed up on the audio side of things, and it runs perfectly and puts up with all the crap I can through at it....I've actually had a song with 70 tracks and maybe 20 plugins running in real time with out hickuping. It's very reliable.
Wed Oct 19 '05 8:00:49 am Set this message as last read

Donkey Hotay

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So in fact someone needs to 'splain spleen
Wed Oct 19 '05 8:01:31 am Set this message as last read
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