Cliff
Derry Ireland Plays: Guitar (36 years)
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962/Anyone with a bit of technical expertise - Help! I'm having a bit of a problem with my effects set up!
Basically, I used to use a Digitech RP-6 with a Dunlop Wah-Wah plugged into a Marshall Valvestate Combo. Every now and again at gigs I would notice that the sound would go very bass-y and indistinct and put it down to my ears acclimitising after the first set.
However, I upgraded to pedals about 6 months ago. I now go: Peavey Wolfgang into a Little Alligator Volume-WahWah-Tuner-Boss DS-1-Marshall SV-1 Chorus-Boss DD3 Delay then Marshall Valvestate. These all sit in a cradle that powers all the effects.
The same thing was happening at rehearsal tonight and I plugged straight into the amp to check if it was the amp or the guitar. Both worked fine and I got a good, bright sound, no muddiness. When I tried the wah-wah (the only other item from my original set-up) direct in, it worked fine as well!
Has anyone any suggestions as to what this could be? I can't imagine that it is the amp or my guitar but I can't fathom it out! Aarggghh!!!
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Mon Feb 6 '06 4:45:36 pm
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Stevee T
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marimariSRV...you're always good as gold to me...glad you're feeling better...
Do The Stu...thanks for the search...gotta...go with that line up...8)>
Cliff...not sure...I'd check each effect in the line to narrow the prob...?
njbeast...me very psyched too! yaya..me too! woooof!...lol
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Miguel Chavez Chi-town, Illinois USA Plays: Guitar (36 years)
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Do the Stu: Collective soul is a great band, I think they're guitar player is pretty good too, . hearing songs like December and Shine brings me some pretty darn good memories from the 90's-
Yaya gakk: Eric Cauidiux is a great piece to Joe's musical puzzle, I'm sure he's gonna come up with something creative for the new album..
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Mon Feb 6 '06 5:43:53 pm
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Hrh Fish
paul Fisher London, UK Plays: Guitar (53 years)
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Hi ya folks Im new to this forum. I am a teacher / session player who has openings for studenents. I teach 1 to 1 and if any of you are intereasted you can reach me vai (pun!!) email. I am based in Leyton, East London(UK). All my details are available on this site.Double click on my nickname on this post to get my email address.
I am a very experienced player who wishes to pass my knowledge on to the next generation. If anyone wants any help please do not hesitate to drop me a line and I'll do what I can. I cater all levels begginers to advanced.You can post queeries to me and I will reply to all. All speices welcome!
Dont b shy people!!!
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Mon Feb 6 '06 7:15:58 pm
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PhryDom
Dave Atlanta, GA USA Plays: Guitar (45 years)
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mom good excuse for the jager! i usually use a cold as an excuse for a hot toddy (hot water lemon juice & whisky for those not in the know) ;-) i need to remember to try some jager next time i'm at the package sto ;-) but read on...
mthead, mikey, steevee, lucia, and anybody else i missed - thanks for the get well messages... here's how my today went...
after that godawful day in bed yesterday i got up this morning feeling much better, but still full of a cold... i also had to get up early as i had to find and then order new computers for the other half's new office move (there'll be more news on this in due course too - good news hopefully!), that took me two and a half hours, but i'm gonna get paid $240 for my time and effort... then i went to work only to be sent to a meeting that i had no place being at... at the start of the meeting the general manager says something like "i don't know if y'all know each other so let's go round the table..." and then proceeds to introduce the managers from our other buildings, and then proceeds to introduce me as "this is Dave, he's the new Kennel Manager at <my location>"... boy was i surprised!
anyway... i don't know if it was yesterday's rest (and chicken soup!) or today's surprisingly good news, but i'm feeling quite a bit better... still very snotty, still a hard dry cough that hurts my chest, still aching ribs from coughing, still a headache, but feeling better nontheless!
ok before this post becomes a page long i'm gonna go... hope you're all well, i need to relax, well at the very least take my GD boots off... laterzzzzzzzzzz (satriella i didn't forget you! just not opened gmail yet!)
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Rob D'Angelo ACWORTH, GA usa Plays: Guitar (25 years)
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stevee t ... im good im just a little confused on what guitar i want to get next.
Joe... cant wait for the cd
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Mon Feb 6 '06 7:38:07 pm
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Steve Oliver Ontario Canada Plays: Guitar (22 years)
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So whats this I hear about Joe's Super Colossal Tour? I would assume that the legendary Joe Satriani will be making some appearances here in Canada on this so called colossal tour, as it only makes sense. And it is great to hear that Eric Johnson will be opening for Joe. Woo I will be waiting for that concert, let us know dates ASAP Joe.
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Mon Feb 6 '06 7:57:35 pm
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Mikey D in da house Satch = ZEN Land Of The Rising Sun Plays: Guitar
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Guitarmiester: Couldnt ask tfor a better group to represent Zeppelin, lol!!.... I'm going to get it too, and I wish they did more shows!!....
Clarky: lol bro, sounds like you got a good thing going there, and if it sounds good, leave the compression out!.... 'speriment bro, and you know, in this situation, it sounds like more is less, lol.... Keep us posted on your progress, and when Shredz will be available....
Stevee T: I found some info on this thread at the Portnoy Forum.... If you can make it, let us know!!....
alexandrecaetano: Please give our CONGRATS to Mauro my friend!!.... That is fantastic, he is such a great drummer, and great to see he played on your tracks!!.... :-) :-) Thanks for talking to Gonçalo, and keep us posted on your album progress!! :-) Gambate!!....
Powerslave214: Right on bro (on Hammer Of The Gods), and you know, I still havent made it out to that music store, but I have a copy of the pix.... I dont remember seeing IBY's, but I will check out a few stores next time I head out for music :-)
marimariSRV: Great to see ya back, and kuul news on the movie!! :-)
Do The Stu: Right on about Ed, and I really like his voice!.... They put on a great show!!....
njbeast: Get well soon!....
michelle: I gottsta get that dvd too, lol!!.... Give Sully a hug for us :-)
PhryDom: CONGRATS on the promotion, great news!! :-)
....Later peeps>>>>
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BzzDog
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I have an epiphone les paul standard that I bought brand new three years ago. Does anyone have suggestions for a light gauge string (9-42) and a whammy set up that would be sweet?
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Mon Feb 6 '06 8:18:33 pm
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Hrh Fish
paul Fisher London, UK Plays: Guitar (53 years)
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DOG
I seem to rememba Ritchie Sambora havin a Les Paul wiv a khaler. Ive used both Khalers and Floyd Roses and personally I had less greif with the Floyd Rose. I used to give it a lot of stick and didnt brake half as many strings as I did wiv the Khaler.
You can now get locking machine heads for standard trems which are also worth checking out. I strongly advise that once you have made your choice take it to a good surgeon to install it.
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Mon Feb 6 '06 8:32:53 pm
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Do The Stu
Austin Lewis, III Costa Mesa, CA United States Plays: Bass (25 years)
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I found this somewhere else and thought it was cool:
Teen saves woman who once saved him
There are some weird Back to the Future-type things here... If she hadn't saved him, he'd be dead...and he wouldn't be around to save her later, so she'd be dead. But they're both still here.
punkdude75 - Collective Soul's longtime lead guitarist actually left a few years ago (after they released their greatest hits album). The new guy they're playing with is Joel Kosche.
There are hardly any solos on Youth, CS's most recent studio album. And Joel didn't play many solos the first time I saw the band (I think it was in February of last year), but he let loose a bit more when I saw them a few months later (August, I think...?). I hope he continues to grow comfortable in the band and there are a lot of solos on their next album.
I had a hard time "getting" Youth because the solos just weren't there...the album didn't seem complete to me. But looking back at it now, I think it's a great album...and it's one that the band really needed to make at this point in their career. The songwriting reminds me of the Disciplined Breakdown album.
Collective Soul had seven #1 singles in six years. Man, they are such a great band. I can't say that enough. Part of me wishes they were still as popular now as they used to be, but another part of me enjoys seeing them in tiny clubs. ;-)
ovation1 - Do you post over at Mike Portnoy's forum? I've lurked there for a few months, but I've never posted anything. Maybe I should change that...LOL.
...Austin...
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OCPS470
Chris Peters Lake Mary, FL USA Plays: Guitar (28 years)
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Do the Stu: Yeah...I was kind of wondering how the new lead guitarist was going to be able to fill Ross CHildress's shoes. Not only is the guy a unique and phenominal lead soloist, but he is responsible for much of the compositional layered nature of the Collective soul albums. Dosage is still the best I think...really one of the most brilliant rock studio albums. I've always thought the production on that one is amazing.
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Mon Feb 6 '06 10:25:54 pm
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bahduh
mark alistair shillong, meghalaya india
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lucysorets...thanks for the mail......hope yur friends arrive soon...have a nice time with them..dont 4get my advice.yu have mail......cheers,...
austin(dothestu)....well bro frankly speaking i dont give a shit much about celebrities..but guess like yu ..i am a huge fan of lance and thus the querry.as for the others...who cares?? afterall they change relationships just like we change our underwear after every bath that we take...dont yu agree?????in a way i think celebrities are involved in some sort of a game...the game being...who gets involved in the most number of relationship???......well thanks for the link...anyway i hope lance makes a comeback for the seventh Tour de France this year...i am keeping my fingers crossed...without lance the tour wont be the same...ulrich would most probably dominate...or who knows...it might be ekemov,cancellera,ivan basso,mancebo...any one...also better watch out for yur american guy flyod landis..
alexandre...hi bro....thanks for the info..i am so glad to know that yur doing well...have a nice day...
tracie...hi...
marimari...thanks for asking...me and my little family are doing fine....hope the same is the case with yu..take care..stay healthy...
artanis..hi mate.......
later.....
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Evan Brown Los Angeles, CA USA Plays: Guitar (29 years)
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Do The Stu - i've been here since october. if you're here you should come to my band's cd release party on friday!!! it's at club good hurt (goodhurt.net) we're trying to get as many people there as possible!
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Mon Feb 6 '06 11:29:39 pm
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Rigid
Dan Wheatley Thornton, Colorado U.S.A. Plays: Guitar (27 years)
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One of the first great shredders I ever listened to, hendrix influence but 10 time's better, joe satriani, wizard of the fretboard!!!!
Someday I'm gonna share a stage with him on the g3 tour, what an honor that will be!!!!
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Tue Feb 7 '06 12:10:37 am
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962
Simon Granada, Andalucia Spain Plays: Guitar (24 years)
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Cliff, my first suggestion would be putting the Wolfgang after the volume and Wah pedals. Definitely keep the Wah before the other effects 'cause it's the best place for it. I guess putting the delay and chorus in the effects loop but keeping the others in-line from guitar to amp might help.
Clarky, cheers bro, I will take your suggestion into account, probably try it myself. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to be an ass about it.....I got lots of people slamming me for something I'm not guilty of at the moment, so I guess I have a bit of a tendancy to be irritable! Sorry matey!
OCPS470, question about your Red Box Pro and THD Hotplate setup: Do you run the amp's speaker out -- speaker in on the Red Box Pro -- from the Red Box's "Thru" -- to speaker in on the Hotplate -- from speaker out on the Hotplate -- speaker in on your cab?
As far as I can figure out this is the right chain to use but I thought I'd ask first.....better safe than sorry! Also if it is right I'll need to get another speaker lead, and I don't want to do that if there's no point! Cheers dude
LucySorets, thanks!
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Tue Feb 7 '06 1:47:57 am
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Clarky
Paul Clark plays the organ, going blind www.paul-clark.com
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powerslave - the reason the battery hasn't failed is because you use it every day... the more a unit is powered up, the less battery is used to hold the memory....
if you've not done it allready, you may want to look into soring it's config either with a MIDI filer unit or a software MIDI tool like MIDI-OX... if you save your settings via something like MIDI_X, make sure that your PC MIDI is not running via the joystick port, but running via USB or a proper MIDI port on your sound card...
MIDI via the joystick can [and did for me] corrupt the MIDI file...
If you're looking to replace the GP16... you must check out the Boss GT Pro.... It's a really serious piece of kit and is not as costly as you'd expect....
right now, my Digitech 2120 is back in the menders... I sispect that they didn't quite fix it first time around... if it turns out that it's going to start getting unrealiable - cos it has had a very hard life - then I'll be looking to replace it... the GT Pro is the very first unit I'll be checking out.... it looks very powerful indeed.... I've not heard one yet... but I've seen one in the local guitar store and I've read the specs..... over the next few weeks I'm going to try one out....
slansh - the thing with my 2120 is - as you'll understand - the zillions of hours invested getting it just right... the gigs and rehearsals it takes for a minor tweak here and there... that sort of refinement just takes so long to get right.... and I love the unit too.. it's so powerful and sounds great....
on tone though.. I think I'm getting itchy feet... time for a change.. although I'd personally prefer the 2120 be there to make the new tone for me....
but saying that.... I'm really enjoying my SansAmp PSA-1 right now....
Suzie - Jonathan Ross and man in the same sentence???
have you taken leave of your senses wman?? lmao..
Mikey - using the SansAmp is funnily enough making me alter my technique a little.... it's like it needs to be driven a different way to the 2120... you need to be more dynamic.. and to get it to scream you need to dig in a little deeper... I have a very gentle technique to this is taking some getting used to...
but I'm enjoying it greatly.....
Shredz... that is finished.... I'm now in the process of saving up the cash to go get it mastered.... as luck would have it.. I'm on tour in March so it's not like I've nothing to do in the mean time... lol..
962 - ha... I'm not slamming you... jeez.. lol... you should know me better than that... lol...
I looked at your plan... I saw exactly what you're trying to achieve... I personally only run a plan like that one if I have a good 4 or more hours of practice ahead of me.... so that I can give each subject a good seeing to....
when teaching.. a very good thing to keep in mind is....
learn little.... but learn it well....
so be mindful of cramming too much information into a student..
even more so with a novice....
so matey.... will you be coming to the Poole gig??
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PhryDom...congrats on the promotion...hot toddy sounds good...lol...
Rob310...what axes do you already have...?
ovation 1...I will be at BB King's for the Portnoy show...he's such a great drummer...the rest of the line-up ain't bad either...lol
BzzDog...I have a Les Paul Custom Lite...that comes with a factory installed double locking Floyd Rose...and it is very sweet...find a good Luthier that know's what he's doing....
evbro...Good Luck with the CD release party on Friday!
Rigid....Welcome!
Clarky...let me know how you like the GT Pro...I've been using the GT6 for several years now, just tried the GT8 on Sat & Sunday....excellent unit...I think the GT8 might be the floor model of the Pro.....?
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Clarky
Paul Clark plays the organ, going blind www.paul-clark.com
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Zen - ok.. so when you are improvising or composing it is of course possible to have "accidents" whereby you aim to generate a specific tonality and get it wrong...
so essentially you miss the target and get a different result....
sometimes this can sound unpleasent... but on the other hand.. some accidents can have a remarkably pleasing outcome...
and this is one of the reasons that I whole-heartedly encourage experimentation, composition and general noodling around no matter how advanced or novice the musician may be....
creativity is something to be nurtured right from day 1..
it is of great importance to encourage creativity and experimentation without fear or shame....
I know for a fact that many are shy when it comes to writing.... "all my songs suck... blah blah"
continue with such an attitude.. and creativity will never develop... and then that guys songs will continue to suck... lol...
getting back on track though.. lol..
the real killer part about having a solid theoretical knowledge, backed up by a strong sense of aural perception is....
that when these happy accidents occur, you can immediately understand the impact of what is occurring at that given moment....
this means that this "accident" can now become a repeatable moment in any key of your chosing and therefore be absorbed into your stock of expressive vocabulary...
this is therefore one of the many paths of development...
for me, the greatest question in music is "what if?"
even if the answer at the time is a bad one....
continue to ask the question..
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