michelle
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Chadley, we've have a bit of snow here and there, but I think 2 1/2 inches was the deepest so far. It's coming...I know it is. lol!
Man, you know it's getting bad when the only place hiring is the feckin' unemployment office!
Okay, now it's time...
HAPPY BIRTHDAY JEFF!! I agree with Austin - GET A WEBSITE!!
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Mon Dec 29 '08 2:07:51 pm
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Skippygirl
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Hi all,
I'm back from a lovely week away in the high country of Victoria. Had a fantastic Christmas Day - amazing how Santa got all our pressies up there.
It was beautiful warm weather all week, ate freshly caught trout and at night we would sit on the deck with several dozen bourbons and look at the milions of stars you just can't see when in the city.
I finally had some free time (apart from swimming in the river, walking, 4WD'ing and pottering around) to read the Guitar for Dummies book. My niece's boyfriend had his $100 Essex acoustic with him so, officially, on 28 December, I did my first guitar lesson.
I cut my nails back (*sniff*) and learnt A,D,E,Am,G,C,F,Em (where the hell is B??) . D and F I found almost impossible - with D I had to use my first finger to hold down the first 3 strings and use my 2nd finger on the 2nd string in the next fret, because I couldn't get my 2nd and 3rd fingers far enough apart to go a fret apart.
I remembered an interview of Joe's where he said you have to use the end of your fingerbone perpendicular to the fretboard, and not press too hard, and tried to use good finger and hand position. After an hour I could remember where each finger went for each chord and could mostly get a reasonable sound as opposed to a strangled cat.
At this point I was supposed to be able to play Kumbaya, Michael Row The Boat and Auld Lang Syne, which I tried but for the life of me couldn't get it to sound anything like them, plus I had to put each finger in place 1 at a time at each chord change so there was a big gap :0). I also have to remember which chords only use 5 or 4 strings to the strum, without looking back at the book.
My kids were delighted when I did a fab rendition of Phoebe's "Smelly Cat" song from Friends.
By then my fingertips had gone numb and were tender so I gave it a rest. The next morning I did another 30mins on those chords even though my fingers were still numb.
So now I have to practice until I can play the chords by placing all fingers at once, not 1 at a time, and so I can change chords seamlessly. In the pictures the person's hand was wrapped around the neck with the thumb on top but I found I had to put my thumb at the back of the neck or else I couldn't stop touching a heap of other strings - is this OK?
On the 6 hr drive home I read the Guide ahead a few chapters to 7ths (minor, major, dominant, WTF?), barre chords, double-stops (WTF?), slide, and then to the C scale. But I will stick with just learning the basic open chords in practice.
Now I'm home I don't have a guitar but hubby has an old acoustic in storage so will retrieve that this week and see what it's like.
GG2 - how you going with the geetar???
Hope all of you are well and gearing up for a great NYE.
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Mon Dec 29 '08 3:06:52 pm
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wolf2
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...hey holy fouck now i know where this pain well all thats true but the bulging and death arm with pain is because Chicago police rolled my letter that better be a good roll oh fouck and your sneaky where did you pick the letter up to drive it to dennis kirk in minnesota when you rolled it? this better be a good chicago roll babe comeon dont fouck around we have been doing it so it must be a good roll but you were sneaky though where did you pick the letter up? so this means my power should stay right? you yours plus the ones that did sneak by my daughter the chief that came here from chicago got the your living nice guy my daughters the chief deal and they left you yours im telling you this better be a good gangster press if it deactivates me youlle see you will get it some get wacked and dad spanks! you little foucker you would be that but i think it,s a true roll! later wolf2.
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Mon Dec 29 '08 3:11:33 pm
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novjul
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skippygirl, i recommend the thumb squarely in the middle of the back of the neck for maximum finger / string pressing strength. This was from my first unofficial guitar lesson, when I picked up the acoustic again at midlife (I knew a few chords, still do). I laid it down, but I've never forgotten that unofficial lesson from the mysterious stranger who first spoke joe's name to me.
listening to: Is There Love in Space? (the song, not the cd)
...paxamundo...
~f
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Mon Dec 29 '08 3:58:02 pm
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novjul
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I've re-worked my Satch 101 playlist:
SWTA
I Just Wanna Rock
Summer Song
FIABD
Mind Storm
I Am Become Death
Look My Way
Hordes of Locusts (live, from Dreaming #11)
Crystal Planet
Is There Love in Space?
The Headless Horseman
Echo
Friends
~f
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Mon Dec 29 '08 4:16:56 pm
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roo
Andrew Longhorn iphone app: RooSatch Australia Plays: Guitar (34 years)
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Skippygirl,
Technically thumb on the back is more "correct" - however you need to balance fun with theory.
What I mean is, it's like everything, unless you are a superhuman or a robot, you cannot learn the best position and habits from the beginning. It won't make sense and it will slow you down. Just like you cannot learn guitar by first learning all musically theory before you pick up an instrument. Sure, in the end you may be a better player and pick it up like lightning, but the years leading up to that day will be less interesting.
So learning is an iterative process, do what you can for now to get a good sound and enjoy your learning, just have a few pointers in the back of your mind each time you play. Then your technique will evolve and improve. And when you feel like it, get a bit of playing you have trouble with and try and improve THAT technique. Just be aware you will learn a lot of "bad" habits, fix some, and call some your own "style".
I personally try to use good technique when I can, such as if a run or chord can be done the "real" way with the pinky, or cheated with a barre chord, then I'll try to use the more difficult one, which forces good hand position. But if just strumming for fun, substitute the cheat chord to get the right groove, the hand can be more relaxed in this case, as you discovered with D.
Above all, as I think Joe put it, don't spend too much time practicing, spend more time playing.
Roo
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josepbergada93
Josep Bergadą Arenys de Mar, Barcelona Spain Plays: Guitar (18 years)
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Hey Joe, my name is Josep. I'm 15 years old. You're my idol. Watch my video playing "surfing with the alien",
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=SFz_toCniAw , Thanks!! ;)
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Mon Dec 29 '08 4:28:38 pm
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Skippygirl
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roo - thanks for that. When I thumbed through the Dummies Guide in the book store I liked the way the authors get you to play songs ASAP - in fact straight after learning A,D,E. But I do need to get the chords right by straight out practice as well as playing songs.
My niece's boyfriend was given a chord library book for Xmas - it has what looks like hundreds of chords in it, OMG!
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Mon Dec 29 '08 4:58:01 pm
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novjul
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PHOEBE: How many chords do you know?
CHRISSY HYNDE: (shrugs) All of them
:-)
remember, it's not the destination, it's the journey
unless, of course, you're driving in Boston
with music, there is no destination, there is only the journey
~f
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Mon Dec 29 '08 5:04:45 pm
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Blue_Moon
Alan McKenna Dublin Ireland Plays: Guitar (23 years)
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well once you know a little bit of theory... scale/chords construction and understand a bit of harmony, chords are rather easy to get a grasp of, im sure theres 100's of chords in the book but sometimes those boosk go through eery key!
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Mon Dec 29 '08 5:50:09 pm
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slanshroom
roy marchbank Scotland, Barcelona Spain Plays: Guitar (51 years)
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All you muppet fans, heres Another Belter good ol Rainbow
Al:Non stick pans are bad for boobies next time ya bring some birds round yer gaf they might leave their chicks at home!
Fab:I saw G,s desk on myspace, looks awesome, would have loved t have spent more time in Scotland t see everyone.Defo goin t Dublin next year t catch up with the lads, i,ll probably hire a car & do an extra week in jockland then, y have a good xmas yersel?
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fatape
craig North Lambton/Newcastle, NSW Australia Plays: Guitar (54 years)
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Skippygirl:-Lesson 01-If the neck of the guitar your playing feels comfortable to you,then your hand will find its own way with time. Lesson 02-If your fingertips start to get raw or hurt,take a days break and spend that day learning to picture chord shapes in your head. Lesson 03-Don't let anyone tell you that your doing it wrong.Hell,the great Django Rheinhart only had to fingers on a f*cked up burnt hand and i still can't master what he did!...and i've got eight good fingers and two good thumbs! Lesson 04-Just enjoy learning because the journey never ends! Now get to it,girl!!! :-) C'MON AUSSIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Tue Dec 30 '08 12:56:59 am
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wolf2
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...Hey what? you have never had the chicago police roll a letter on you? anyways yep they have been doing it to me for years.Somehow my letter is to strong to go though the postal service and injures people so the chicago police get it ,they look at it and go yep that Frank ,he,s back doing his things put it though the elient computer in this writing you can tell he been waking police and has their guns is killing them with the and has lot,s of strength okay well lets give it a roll the rolls look like an old ringer washer their programed for a gangster some are usualy but they do have one that deactivates me oh they have other shit to arnold that you dont even know they use ! later wolf2.
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Tue Dec 30 '08 2:53:13 am
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wolf2
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....This is No Lie!. I am so strong I cant write right now,when I sent my order to dennis kirk it was all I could do to print a short not of direction, fill out the order for I could barely fill out the address on the envelope in printing anyways as soon as they detected the strength in chicago they rolled it but thats actualy how stong I am later wolf2.
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