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Tostado
Jesús Alberto De la Cruz Tostado
Mexico City, D.F.
Mexico
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Damn it!!! When you listen to both songs at the same time they actually sound awesome. I´d love to listen both live someday.
Fri Dec 5 '08 4:06:25 pm Set this message as last read

JS_JS
Jacob Stewart
Washington
U S
Plays: Guitar (22 years)
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LOL! Everyone is listening to If I Could Fly now. I definitely am. it's always been one of my favs froom that album, but honestly I love every song from that album. :) Then again, I love every Joe song.
Fri Dec 5 '08 4:11:26 pm Set this message as last read

McDave

Cook, MN

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"If I could Fly" is near the top of my list too..it's a very good positive attitude booster for me.

GlitzMan....of course I don't drink whiskey like wine. I prefer to sip now and again between beers. If I can just sip, it'll whoop my ass by the end of the night. And I'll dance when I'm drunk too...do the robot..and all that 60's surf dance stuff...make a complete ass of myself and love every minute of it.

Viva Crown Royal ! !

Fri Dec 5 '08 4:36:44 pm Set this message as last read

joea64
Joseph
New York
U.S.A
Plays: Guitar (47 years)
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hi all just wondering how every one is and if your getting ready 4 the hollidays peace to all
Fri Dec 5 '08 5:02:30 pm Set this message as last read

death cube k

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my computer is fixed .. yay.. i am back now..
Fri Dec 5 '08 5:21:12 pm Set this message as last read

michelle

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Ohhh how we missed you Cube! lol!

To celebrate, let's all watch THIS.

Chad and Flea - that's the shit!

Fri Dec 5 '08 5:59:15 pm Set this message as last read

Arty0861
Keith Davis
Covington, Louisiana
USA
Plays: Guitar (26 years)
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Here is the Satch/Coldplay song mixed together
Fri Dec 5 '08 6:03:26 pm Set this message as last read

death cube k

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very cool
Fri Dec 5 '08 6:10:29 pm Set this message as last read

Nebuna64
George kastias
toronto, ontario
Canada
Plays: Guitar (20 years)
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Very Good Joe, glad to hear your suing him

Get the money you deserve Cant copy a god's song and except not to get screwed BEST OF LUCK JOE

Fri Dec 5 '08 6:19:52 pm Set this message as last read

Al Surfer

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I don't know if he'll win a jury case, but Joe sure has a strong complaint. Pretty darn blatant swipe of his song. I'm glad he's standing up and saying something about it. It will be interesting to see what Coldplay puts out on their next album as they'll have to write original stuff (not that I'll ever hear it though as I had never heard the "Viva" song until this morning).

Joe might also have a case with Metallica (seeing them in 2 weeks btw) as "The Day That Never Comes" has hints of "Chords Of Life" however, on the flip-side "Starry Night" sure sounds like "People Get Ready"

Switching gears - My son & I were at a Roy Rogers show a few months ago and we waited after the show to chat with Roy. He saw my son's Satch shirt and went on to say how much he likes Joe. He must have spent 15 minutes with us mostly talking with my son. Very cool & a terrific slide guitarist!

Fri Dec 5 '08 6:23:27 pm Set this message as last read

Al Surfer

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michelle - That guy sounds just like the Chicken Foot drummer. :-)
Fri Dec 5 '08 6:31:26 pm Set this message as last read

moe
AbdulMouhsen Al-Madani
oak park, IL
United States
Plays: Guitar (29 years)
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Dear Joe;

Best of luck to you man on your suit. I don't know what really happened. But please know that we support you, and your songs have touched our lives.

I don't know if it's your label that is suing, or your personally. However, I wish you luck in all your endeavors.

Hope this get's settled ASAP, and good luck.

Fri Dec 5 '08 6:33:11 pm Set this message as last read

Tostado
Jesús Alberto De la Cruz Tostado
Mexico City, D.F.
Mexico
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I hope this Colplay stuff doesn´t take too long, and doesn´t leave any emotional conflicts with satch. I can´t believe that for these kind of things will have to wait longer for the chickenfoot material. I´m with you Satch, get the money and credit you deserve!!!! Viva my ass XD
Fri Dec 5 '08 6:51:06 pm Set this message as last read

michelle

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ha! ya think?

Fri Dec 5 '08 6:51:52 pm Set this message as last read

Tostado
Jesús Alberto De la Cruz Tostado
Mexico City, D.F.
Mexico
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Perhaps It´s just me, but Satriani is more emocional than some of us think. Lets remember that he is not used to be in these kind of situations.
Fri Dec 5 '08 7:07:58 pm Set this message as last read

Tostado
Jesús Alberto De la Cruz Tostado
Mexico City, D.F.
Mexico
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I can not believe this!!! People refer to Joe as " a certain rock guitarist who demanded the most popular band in the world Coldplay". I think Joe deserves more than that, a better treatment.
Fri Dec 5 '08 7:46:56 pm Set this message as last read

death cube k

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so the miley cyrus tune sounds like one of my tunes from 10 years ago .. should i sue ?
Fri Dec 5 '08 8:24:30 pm Set this message as last read

FX

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Hey I like Joe and Coldplay but I think the best way to settle this issue would be for them ( Joe and wassis face from Coldplay) to have a guitar duel kinda like in Crossroads. Not going to happen but you know who'll win. Too bad someone can't sue Lil Wayne. Unbelievable that a no music talent can be nominated for 8 Grammys. Once again as we all know the Grammys exist soley to reward commercial sucKsess.
Fri Dec 5 '08 8:38:57 pm Set this message as last read

wasp2020
Anthony Condarcuri
Bolton, Ontario
Canada
Plays: Guitar (19 years)
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Eh, I don't like any of this. Joe was definitely pressured into it by the record company, he's not the type to care too much about this. It's all very stupid. And bad PR.
Fri Dec 5 '08 8:39:00 pm Set this message as last read

lorenzo001
loren rosenberg
glenview, Illinois
U.S.A.
Plays: Guitar (38 years)
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whats up! i am back in the freezing cold weather, its 18 F here. i love it. i can't take temperatures over 100 F, but it's true what they say, its. not the heat its the humidity.

renting an apt. for now. now i repeat the whole process over again. wait another 2 months for my shit and try to find a job, and find a decent house to live in.

Tikimon= how are ya man. listen everyone, about the grammys. we folks who have been around for a while know its a total farce. i would say its like a popularity contenst back in high school. remember when jethro tull was voted best heavy metal band!? iits so ridiculous and i don't waste my time with that garbage.

Fri Dec 5 '08 8:39:28 pm Set this message as last read

lorenzo001
loren rosenberg
glenview, Illinois
U.S.A.
Plays: Guitar (38 years)
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about this coldplay thing. the only thing i see similar is the basic rythym in the begining that seems to go on endlessly through the whole song. i couldn't listen to the whole thing through,.. to boring. what he is going to sue over two chords. if the arrangement is any different than his it won't fly. i also think that someone talked joe into this suit.
Fri Dec 5 '08 8:51:48 pm Set this message as last read

wasp2020
Anthony Condarcuri
Bolton, Ontario
Canada
Plays: Guitar (19 years)
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ugh, just reading around, Joe is taking a huge beating. This is rather painful.
Fri Dec 5 '08 11:17:58 pm Set this message as last read

Skippygirl

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Well this is an intereresting development isn't it?

My initial thought about the Coldplay video on YT was "who is iGotSpaceLikeNASA"? The person only registered on 17 June. I wondered at the time if someone connected with Joe had registered as a gentle way of pointing out the similarity of the 2 songs - it would seem to be a Joe-style way of doing things wouldn't it? Does anybody know this person?

As someone pointed out, it may not be clear whether if it is Joe's record company, his publishing company or some other entity who has filed the suit. Companies have a fiduciary duty to their shareholders to protect their IP/assets/whatever so it may not have been Joe's call personally.

I also know that, in any jurisdiction, law suits are filed as a last resort, after letters are written and talks are held (or maybe no talks were held if Coldplay's reps ignored the letters) so the two parties have already been in contact and no result has come out of it.

I often think about how many permutations and combinations of notes in a 3 minute song (that sound good) are possible. When will we run out? I once thought about creating a software program that generated combinations of notes ( to different timing and rhythms) to find ones that sounded good to the ear.

This also begs the question about what do composers do at the moment when they write a song, in order to check that it hasn't been written before? Is there a "matching" service that they can check their song against in case someone wrote a similar song in Russia in 1972? How do you cover the risk that you are writing something from your memory or that you once heard when you were 5?

Anyway, I wish Joe all the best in the world with this - court is a last resort and I doubt there are ever true winners.

Do The Stu - any chance you can interview Joe for T2J to get his side of the story?

Fri Dec 5 '08 11:37:15 pm Set this message as last read

cosmic_ape
Aron Ortega
Plays: Guitar (25 years)
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Edited Sat Dec 6 '08 12:23 am
Fri Dec 5 '08 11:52:08 pm Set this message as last read

fatape
craig
North Lambton/Newcastle, NSW
Australia
Plays: Guitar (54 years)
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Skippygirl:- So far your's has been the most intelligent post on either T2J OR coldplays site.Thank you for pointing out things that most of us,myself included,may not have even thought of.You are a true Satch fan.Lets just hope that something can be worked out between Joe and Coldplay in an amicable way so as not to hinder ANYONE'S creative process.C'MON AUSSIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fri Dec 5 '08 11:58:01 pm Set this message as last read
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