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ibanezguitars
Joan Jove
Mollet del Valles, Barcelona
Spain
Plays: Guitar (44 years)
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Goldengirl2
Get their first album "Dire Straits", and secondly, get their second one, titled "Communiqué",
I have all of them, but IMO the first two are fresh and innovative. Still now, 30 years later, I listen to them from time to time and they're far away from boring me.

Satriella
You've got my vote for Vai's drawing. Royaume Unit douze points !
Sat Dec 13 '08 8:52:37 am Set this message as last read

Little Bubbles

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Hey Joe!

I'm Chelsea and I'm 16 years old. I have been listnening to your music since my mom was pregnant with me. =D My mom, Sheila (Bubbles), posted a blog about the whole Coldplay song rip off thing and I wanted you to see my response.

Here are my observations:

If you listen closely to Matt Bissonette's bass you will notice that he plays the notes long and (legato). If you listen to the cello playing in "Viva La Vida" the cello player plays the same notes Matt plays only more stacatto and an octave higher.

This next piece of info I heard may make everyone listen closer to Joe Satriani's song "If I Could Fly" and Coldplay's "Viva La Vida."

Less than a minute into Joe Satriani's song "If I Could Fly" Joe plays an amazing part (50 seconds into the song to be exact). If you listen to Chris Martin sing the first lyrics, "I used to rule the world. Seas would rise when I gave the word..." etc. Listen to Joe Satriani's guitar playing and sing the 1st 4 lines of the song, "Viva La Vida."

YES! THEY ARE THE SAME.

I don't want to say that Coldplay went and said together, "Hey! Let's steal this guy Joe Satriani's talent and make a song from it." I also don't doubt the similarities between the songs. It definitley should be known that if Coldplay did in fact take some things from Joe Satriani that Joe needs credit where credit is due.

VIVA LA JOE SATRIANI!

:D

Sat Dec 13 '08 9:52:04 am Set this message as last read

gingerpants
craig aston
leeds,
england
Plays: Guitar (35 years)
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Andy Of UK, How does one get hold of such an item? you da man.

you obviously have inside info, Hmm>?

So does anyone else find St Joe's tunes make ya drive a little bit too fast?

Apologies GoldenGirl2, it appears that Mark Knopfler was raised in scotland until 9 when his family moved to Newcaste. conversations must've been fun between those two strong accents, och aye laddie, is wor gannin doon the toon.

bye 4 now

Sat Dec 13 '08 9:54:04 am Set this message as last read

lorenzo001
loren rosenberg
glenview, Illinois
U.S.A.
Plays: Guitar (38 years)
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ok i was a little off on the who song. "every sentence in my head someones already said" but you get the jist. not sure of the song title though. anyone?? ipod just ran out of juice.
Sat Dec 13 '08 9:56:45 am Set this message as last read

tikimon

tampa, florida
usa
Plays: Guitar (56 years)
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"what is your conceptual continuity, the crux of the bisquit is the apostrophe." FZ

it really doesn't matter what any of us think or say about the JS vs that no nothing band. it is in the courts hands now. obviously joe thinks he was done wrong and that is all that matters. i will not be mad at any silly person that thinks that other band didn't plagerize him. there are too many things that make it too similar. obviously joe's label and lawyers agree. let it go. vanillia ice said the same things to avoid the law suit as well as many othere b4 this. it will all work out in the end.

listening to dr. funkenstein and parlimant. we want tha funk gotta hav tha funk.

Edited Sat Dec 13 '08 10:26 am

Sat Dec 13 '08 10:26:02 am Set this message as last read

andy of uk

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gingerpants (what a name) ,no inside info , i just sometimes do a google and start on page 10 or 300. I think that that one was page 20ish.

The journalist who posted it , Kieran Maccarthy , i read is from uk and is living in LA. He says he's never heard of joe satriani. Did you see the link to the Coldplay & The Verve - Bitter sweet symphony that he links to. That was taken from the rollingm stones.

you ok Novjul, not sure if i'm reading blue moons post in proper context.

Sat Dec 13 '08 11:13:10 am Set this message as last read

GoldenGirl2
Millicent Moritz
Santa Clara, California
USA
Plays: Guitar (15 years)
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Blue_Moon--Yer right about Mark Knopfler bein born in Scotland (read it in a GuitarPlayer book).

He's a prolific songwriter and guitar genius in his own right. To bad, I have only one of his albums--Brothers In Arms. Unfortunately, some think he is rubbish!! I'm not naming anyone because he/she can speak for themselves. So many tastes in music!

Because of my luniness on this road, I would like to splain my visions of nude men. I read an article, "It's Different for Girls" in the Dec. 6/7 issue of the Financial Times (Life and Arts section, page 2). The differences between growing up male and growing up female are enough for one to take notice of where we have been and what we have become. Like Michael Stipe of R.E.M. sings in "Losing My Religion"--"I've said too much....I haven't said enough." Lifes ironies!! "That's me in the corner...."

GoldenGirl

Sat Dec 13 '08 12:51:46 pm Set this message as last read

andy of uk

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Entertainment only. More plagurism stuff. Ignore if youv'e had enough.

It's past the TV watershed time here in Uk so here is the latest case against joe.

Debunking the Satriani-Coldplay myth

Full link to Guther song Gunther- Tweeny Weeny String Bikini



Edited Sat Dec 13 '08 1:01 pm

Sat Dec 13 '08 12:58:49 pm Set this message as last read

GoldenGirl2
Millicent Moritz
Santa Clara, California
USA
Plays: Guitar (15 years)
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Maritime--Have you gone mad???

Smoking to get your lungs used to what? Black crud, crappy sludge? As far as I'm concerned you are slowly committing suicide, my friend!!

DON'T DO IT! DON'T DO IT! DON'T DO IT! MAN, I SPEAK FROM EXPERIENCE--I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE DIE FROM THE EFFECTS OF SMOKING AND IT AIN'T PRETTY MY FRIEND!

My Mother-in-law died a horrible death 4 months after Steve and I were married! How do you think I felt about that?

GoldenGirl ;-|(

Sat Dec 13 '08 1:05:53 pm Set this message as last read

McDave

Cook, MN

Plays: Guitar (40 years)
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I am only 18 days shy of 5 years without a cigarette. If you can make it through the first month you're on your way..
Sat Dec 13 '08 1:17:57 pm Set this message as last read

Blue_Moon
Alan McKenna
Dublin
Ireland
Plays: Guitar (23 years)
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i bet you felt like having a cig...


but ah no, in all seriousness dont joke about things like that, and don't smoke it doesnt make you too cool for school, unless there was a school that was cool
Sat Dec 13 '08 1:19:00 pm Set this message as last read

wolf2

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hey! cool the chics from rotax in austria must have been here, how do I know A can of my champion rotax great white shark dorsil fin meat! i did thought I heard rotax at the door talking to mom you realy must be smoking them again what those little 1200CC full race arcti cat yeah may have to rev her up to 6800 rpm for that fouck I kill everything steve mark jessie all tryed raceing me some kind of hillarious vmax 800 he blue up tryng to race me i smoke them all with 6,300 rpm well 6000 for less then a quarter mile is almost 140 miles an hour that leaving still power to 9500 rpm my decker racine enterises 470 it,s actualy 462.8 cc man good shark meat man lets have a smoke dont tell anyone that meat is illegal man later wolf2.
Sat Dec 13 '08 1:30:38 pm Set this message as last read

mapjevi
Marcelo Pignataro
Boulogne,
Argentina
Plays: Guitar (24 years)
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Joe, its my first ytime that post a message for you. I think that you are amazing !!!! I seen all your shows in Buenos Aires, Argentina. The last, in 2008, for me, was teh best that all shows taht all see and hear !!!!

thanks for give wonderfull moments, because you music are a reason for happy for me!!!

I study guitar, but wthen i hear you, i was a litle sad, because i comphrehend what difficult its for me play guitar at good level....... not imagine me play at incredible levels like you.

thanks for your betaful music !!!!!

Marcelo "mapjevi" Pignataro Argentina

Sat Dec 13 '08 1:34:28 pm Set this message as last read

Do The Stu
Austin Lewis, III
Costa Mesa, CA
United States
Plays: Bass (25 years)
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Another reason why I love T2J: It's hard for trolls to keep up with things for more than a post or two. :-)

Anyway...here's a list of songs I used to try to turn on a co-worker to Satch. I think she listened to most of 'em, but I don't think it stuck. Oh well...

Friends
Baroque
Secret Prayer
Love Thing
Rubina
Banana Mango II
Memories
Flavor Crystal 7
Bamboo
I Believe
The Souls Of Distortion
Flying In A Blue Dream
Musterion


anibur - The A Tale Of Rock video was really cool...I love the fire-breathing headstock.
Railton - Congrats on getting a JS1200!

If Joe wins the lawsuit, damages will likely be paid retroactively. For him to have a shot at being awarded a Grammy (if the song even wins), though, he'd need to be suing for a songwriting credit...and I don't think he is.

I'm not sure why he's only seeking money...my guess would be if he wins in court, he'll be awarded a big enough percentage of the song's profits that it just won't be worth it for Coldplay to do anything with that song in the future. The Coldplay song would essentially disappear and the melody will be Joe's again, in If I Could Fly.

I don't know, though...


Igneousiceman - You mentioned you were listening to the Killers...have you heard their new album, Day & Age, at all? I love Hot Fuss but I think Sam's Town is horrible...I don't know whether I should give D&A a shot.
punkdude75 - You might be able to find old Satch tour shirts through Fanfire.
andy of uk - You can also use the <br> tag (but with the [] brackets instead) to make a single-spaced post, like my list above...

And THANK YOU for the PDFs of the court filing. I was going to try to dig those up but it looks like he beat me to it. Sweet...


lorenzo001 / novjul - Time Machine was one of the first JS albums I bought as well...there's such a variety of music there, and it's still fun to listen to even now.
cosmic_ape - I say still go ahead and post a video with any similarities you've found...even if you don't use their actual song in it. We've all heard it and know where we can find it. I'd like to see what you came up with...
Blue_Moon - I haven't yet read it all the way through, but I've seen plenty of court filings and I have no reason to doubt the legitimacy of this one. I know you're sick of hearing about this, but I'm just saying...
mapjevi - Welcome to the site!

...Austin...

Sat Dec 13 '08 1:37:33 pm Set this message as last read

Skippygirl

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Nice one, Marcelo. Welcome

I've been listening to Merry Axemas all weekend, lovely description in the CD liner of how each artist came up with each arrangement and why.

Sat Dec 13 '08 1:42:54 pm Set this message as last read

Guitarman77897
Matt S
WI
United States
Plays: Guitar (21 years)
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The ACT test sucks :( and I failed the science part ^_^
Sat Dec 13 '08 1:43:59 pm Set this message as last read

McDave

Cook, MN

Plays: Guitar (40 years)
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Al....I have thought about having a smoke (almost) every day since I quit. And there were days when I would have cracked under the pressure if someone would have waved one in my face. Nowadays my only vices are an occasional beer & whiskey......and an occasional "puff"...ahem...who said that?

One of my proudest moments was when I converted three people in a matter of minutes after playing FIABD back in 1992.

Sat Dec 13 '08 1:49:56 pm Set this message as last read

andy of uk

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thanks DTS, i emailed webmaster to make the how to post 'notes' a little larger for cut and paste purposes.
Sat Dec 13 '08 1:59:39 pm Set this message as last read

wolf2

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what fouck the cops are hillarious with thier crmiestoppers commercials on the radio ,first of all nigro police you have to be snow white to arrest me uless the kingston pen squa d is killing you second of all you cant arrest a nickename you cant prove whos posting 3 not last and foremost do I have t5o full top level goverment certified fit assesments? oowwwwww so wright I do what does that mean again well i am allowed so many civilians murders a years so many utter death threats amonth so many assaults and I can say whatever i want whenver i want anywahere in canada for about until i am 114 years old and cant be commited what happens if you arrest me think back you did it on my first asesment i went to jail for three days the judge released me with a card to take to the gun dealership to buy a gun and i killed 53 peternorugh city police for breaking the law under thighest ruling of psycahitry by providence continue care kingston mr buscema is authorized to commence the murders for that brok the guarantee law of psycatry to the police with no consequence is what happens plus oh again i think thats under al capposenes address what you police need is machine gun bullets through your body! later wolf2.
Sat Dec 13 '08 2:09:20 pm Set this message as last read

wolf2

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you see im certified normal your not! wolf2.
Sat Dec 13 '08 2:09:52 pm Set this message as last read

HenryX
Hernán Silva Muñoz
Viña del Mar, Valparaíso
Chile
Plays: Guitar (23 years)
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Hi Joe!!!

Whaaat!!!!??? COLDPLAY steal you theme!!!???...Hell Mother Fuckers!!!

Do you know why they copy your theme? , because they dont have imagination, soul, creativity... and they are forced to steal you theme to obtain a lot of grammy or more popularity... ¬¬.

Dont worry joe and remember one thing: Your fans loves you !!!

You rules!!!, You are the guitar hero!!! You are the satch!!!

See ya!!!

PS: Sorry for my english... :(

Edited Sat Dec 13 '08 2:48 pm

Sat Dec 13 '08 2:40:54 pm Set this message as last read

wolf2

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fouck I cant get no medical attention until monday now all thos posts are true but I shouldnt be posting that.I was just sitting on my couch and caught myself said to myself told my mom at the exact same time she told me Isaid my medication isnt working ! my risperdal my antipsycotics for my schizophrenia they are like tottaly not working ,this realy isnt good I have a canadaian mental health association meeting on tuesady and their cant be anything wrong with me ,now the hard part staying out of the psychaitrci hospital where the cmha would put you if your mediction isnt working my doctor will increase he said before were at the maximum dose on the box it said you can go to 16 milligrams with it I take six maybe increas e maybe change bad enough i have to take the risk of walking all the way to my doctors office to try to get help before the cmha meeting before i break the law or endup in the hospital seriously it,s doing nothing right now later wolfinator.
Sat Dec 13 '08 3:10:38 pm Set this message as last read

aussiefudd
Big Bad Wah-bit swayer
New Lambton, NSW
Australia
Plays: Guitar (39 years)
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Thanks guys..... going out for a smoke right now :)
Sat Dec 13 '08 3:40:38 pm Set this message as last read

anibur

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Austin, glad u liked the vid! After I posted it & watched it again, I realised it was made at my son's Uni, (got the link from a pc mag) yay hey! He is doing graphic design, no films yet..!

Who notices a lot of new Joe fans here? WElcome everybody, come on in!*****

ANDY of UK, thanks for emailing webby, I thought of asking for larger help text, but didn't get around to emailing Jon. BAH, I was listening to some of Ken Bruce yesterday morning, but musthav missed the Joe vs C thing....

Edited Sat Dec 13 '08 4:01 pm

Sat Dec 13 '08 3:50:22 pm Set this message as last read

anibur

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WOW

Welcome Ibanez_god, glad you are all well now!

Edited Sat Dec 13 '08 4:14 pm

Sat Dec 13 '08 4:06:57 pm Set this message as last read
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