cosmic_ape
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ibanez_god, I got my first Ibanez ONLINE from a franchise guitar store... the second time around I went with a mom and pop lil' shop and they hooked me up... this was also online... That's what you get when you are left handed... the first time I didn't know any better, now I'd like to think it's different...
I am still forced to buy online, as the best guitars I've found are in shops located in the NY area... the funny part, they're built here in Southern California... Go figure!
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Wed Feb 25 '09 5:35:44 pm
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death cube k
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CommodoreDrake if your getting an acoustic, get something with at least a solid top as that is the main sound board.. you can get a takamine G seiries for around the $300 range with a solid top.. you can get a real nice canadian made simon and patrick acoustic with solid top for about $425 or so . or a taylor 114 t for under $800 .. let us know what you get ..also try to get some light strings put on, as that will help you play easier
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Wed Feb 25 '09 7:22:59 pm
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GoldenGirl2
Millicent Moritz Santa Clara, California USA Plays: Guitar (15 years)
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Al McKenna--Why is Ireland so...so...Roman Catholic? Don't they accept freedom of all kinds of religions? I can't figure that out. What does it matter if you visit a priest or a vicar? I don't like the attitude toward diversity and my brother/friend and his lifestyle (why would anyone choose that lifestyle?) I think he and his domestic partner should be able to get married if they want to. He's a great guy and I should know 'cause we met in high school and we were the best of friends. People can be so weird about these things. I mean peoples sex lives are very complex and some people don't want to admit it.
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Wed Feb 25 '09 9:38:03 pm
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Millicent Moritz Santa Clara, California USA Plays: Guitar (15 years)
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SkippyGirl--I didn't know you had an office in here. What color paint or wallpaper did you use and what does your desk look like?
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Wed Feb 25 '09 9:41:32 pm
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GoldenGirl2
Millicent Moritz Santa Clara, California USA Plays: Guitar (15 years)
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LOL! Have ya'll noticed how the Aussies and Canadians have been flirtin' with each other in this space? Also they been flirtin' with the President of the United States and sendin' him flowers and gifts. Such flattery will get them everywhere!!!!!!!!!! Awwwww shucks....you guys! ;-0)
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Wed Feb 25 '09 9:46:11 pm
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Skippygirl
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To all the guitar players- Dumb Question #22 -
I started on the A pentatonic and was using the same approach as chords i.e. arched fingers so as not to touch other strings etc but then I went back to the vids of PipSatrini (daddy long legs fingers) and Blue Moony and Joe I noticed that they actually keep their fingers quite straightish and parallel to the finger board and just tap the end of their fingers on each string - so my question is does it not matter that you might touch the other strings (since you are only picking one) or are you somehow not touching them at all?
2nd part of Dumb Question - is it better technique to only have 1 finger on 1 string at a time or is it OK to keep a string depressed if your next note is not affected i.e. playing F on the 1st string then G can I leave the F depressed - it's easier.
Cheers in advance.
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Wed Feb 25 '09 10:43:33 pm
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Zenfish
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Slansh : i share your statement about competition polluting composition.
But as you know, competition is an easier way than composition. & people do what they are able to do.
Edit : i just would like to add that if, across this democratic competition, a musician bets onto composition, how many luck does he get to be heard?
Very few.
& there's lot of musicians who bet onto composition.
That's one of the big democratic paradox.
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Wed Feb 25 '09 11:09:44 pm
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cosmic_ape
Aron Ortega Plays: Guitar (25 years)
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SkippyGirl, first part, it has to do with two things:
At first you need to over emphasize the fretting in order to get it right and avoid injuries due to awkward positioning. On top of that, your fingers need to loosen up and get used to the guitar related motions (they're muscles and you need to build them up like an athlete)... Once you reach that stage, you will find that you don't need to move your fingers as much in order to get places... your fingers will have gained some skill around the fretboard and you will find that you can optimize your fretting with less finger movement...
number 2. what you have seen is these guys playing pentatonic scales, right? well, the basic pentatonic box has your index finger fretting one note on each string, at the same fret. This means that you can almost barre your fingers across that fret almost as if you were playing an F chord, for example(not quite across the whole set of strings, but two or three at a time)... On top of that, pentatonics call for blues and blues calls for string bending, so your hand needs to be on a certain angle in order for it to able to bend strings effectively... And, if you must know, these guys probably had some kind of distortion going on, so that's another issue... Once you play guitar with some sort of gain on your signal, you have to adapt your technique to the point that if you strum across the only note(s) you will hear is/are the one(s) you meant to play. Everything else needs to be muted or it will sound like crap... This is not so important when playing acoustic and too much to think of when you're just getting started...
Hope that helps...
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Wed Feb 25 '09 11:39:09 pm
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Skippygirl
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Cosmic Ape - Aha!!! (slaps forehead) that makes sense, thanks for that detailed description I appreciate it. I was watching Pip play Extremist and it's ike a spider crawling over the frets so you can see the economy of finger movement - maybe in a year or so I'll nail it.
Will be heading to guitar lessons soon, have to wait for the stars to align.......
edit - thanks ibanez-god, too.
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Wed Feb 25 '09 11:48:25 pm
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cosmic_ape
Aron Ortega Plays: Guitar (25 years)
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to answer the 2nd part of your question(and you thought I had forgotten!)...
is it better technique to only have 1 finger on 1 string at a time or is it OK to keep a string depressed if your next note is not affected i.e. playing F on the 1st string then G can I leave the F depressed - it's easier.
well, that answer has two parts also:
1. It depends on where you're going. In order to play through the song changes without falling behind on the tempo you have to learn to anticipate your next movement. It's like when you are driving, you don't stare at the road that is right in front of your hood... You keep your chin up and look at the road that is a couple of feet in front of you and its surroundings... So that pattern of "driving through the changes" will dictate the fingerings and the different ways you can play the same chords...
2. I wouldn't advice to leave your finger there just to make it easier on you. Yes, your next finger won't have to press as hard, but this might come and bite you later on. Then, you might find afterward that it is hard for you to change to certain chords because your hand is stuck somewhere else. I say deal with the pressure and get your fingers used to it. You will have less fingers to drag to the next position.
Again, it depends on where you're going... If you're coming back to that position, sure... why not?
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Wed Feb 25 '09 11:56:12 pm
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Skippygirl
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Cossy - great! Thanks for that. Since I am just playing the scale there seems to be economy in hitting, say E,F,G with 2 fingers down on F and G (for G) but I can see I need to anticipate where that first finger might be needed next.
How long to Satch Boogie do you reckon? :0)
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Thu Feb 26 '09 12:08:56 am
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cosmic_ape
Aron Ortega Plays: Guitar (25 years)
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that depends entirely on you... I still can't play the thing decently, but I haven't really practiced or tried to figure it out in many years... I guess it scared me away a long time ago and I never wnet back to it... maybe I should...
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Thu Feb 26 '09 12:11:52 am
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Do The Stu
Austin Lewis, III Costa Mesa, CA United States Plays: Bass (25 years)
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CommodoreDrake - It looks like you have a lot of guitar advice now...let us know what you choose...
GoldenGirl2 - Here...I'll help you out with Porcupine Tree. Here's their MySpace page:
http://www.myspace.com/porcupinetree
You can listen to some of their songs there, assuming you have Flash installed. I recommend starting with Blackest Eyes and Trains from the album In Absentia. From there, go to the album Deadwing and check out Arriving Somewhere But Not Here.
After that, if you like the heavier stuff go for something like Shallow or Halo. If you like the lighter stuff, listen to Lazarus or maybe Open Car.
I'd love to hear what you think...have fun! :-)
cosmic_ape - I didn't realize you were a lefty...if we have time on Saturday maybe we can go to Sam Ash (across the street from Guitar Center) and I can show you the sweet lefty Strat that Al nearly fell in love with when he was out here...
Listening to: Paul Gilbert - Burning Organ (current song: Amy Is Amazing)
...Austin...
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Thu Feb 26 '09 12:30:11 am
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cosmic_ape
Aron Ortega Plays: Guitar (25 years)
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the sweet lefty @ Sam Ash... I play it every time I go there... It's a custom shop white blonde with tinted maple neck, right? and there's a vintage one around there somewhere, too...
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Thu Feb 26 '09 12:36:13 am
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slanshroom
roy marchbank Scotland, Barcelona Spain Plays: Guitar (51 years)
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Zen:ah well as they say.....its not what y know its who y know unless you have serious contacts interested in your work y might as well stick t the day job
other thoughts, the net is a remarkable machine but 2 many kids imo are glued t their bedroom with a vid camera uploadin t youtube, its mentally unhealthy.They should be getting out there playing with other musicians n keepin it real....i mean if they ever find work what are they goin t say
30 year old.... job experience? um none,
life experience?.. had a shitload of partys & used up a ton of my parents cash
so what have you done wit your life........umm i know my way round my house real well
sad really fuckin sad
at least the peeps on this board have pulled the finger out, shockin how many "Ma... dya have a spare 1000 on y" lazy workshy spongin bollox out there....it wont be happenin t my kid i tells yer
morning rant over
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Do The Stu
Austin Lewis, III Costa Mesa, CA United States Plays: Bass (25 years)
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cosmic_ape - Yep, that's the one...how silly of me to think it'd be new to you. ;-) I don't think we saw the vintage one there, though.
...Austin...
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Thu Feb 26 '09 12:58:47 am
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Skippygirl
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Cossy - you make it sound like a woman...;0). What's it like living' in Hollywood BTW? Run into anyone famous lately?
Wow the Eric Johson thing was great - thanks - just makes me sigh how much there is to learn, step 1 of the 1000 step journey I guess.
slanshroom - I agree with you, balancing the digital age with teaching kids gratitude and initiative is a constant battle. How old/many are your kids?
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Thu Feb 26 '09 1:25:53 am
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slanshroom
roy marchbank Scotland, Barcelona Spain Plays: Guitar (51 years)
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ibanez_god:Then yer brothers will find it impossible when the money runs out n mummy is no longer around, you,ll have your day, as for as our very own Bush, the man is clueless, Brown doesnt have vision worthy enough t be prime minister hes goin t destroy whats left of the UK
Skippygirl:At the moment one, hes only 14months, mad into teletubbies at mo so everythin is big hugs n uh oh lol
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Thu Feb 26 '09 1:27:25 am
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slanshroom
roy marchbank Scotland, Barcelona Spain Plays: Guitar (51 years)
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ibanez_god:Oh god the old family drill the nail in the head "why cant you get a job" line.I got that shit for years by my first set of wanker inlaws except it was "why cant you get a real job" because being a session musician & teaching private back in the day wasnt regarded as real work ffs so i divorced n went on tour lol, chin up bud it cant rain forever
?you sent a myspace request¿ not checked my mail, gotta go n get some work done anyhoos laters
Slans space
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Thu Feb 26 '09 1:56:17 am
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Skippygirl
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Slans - aww......he sounds cute, do you play to him? Bet he would love the music you can play for him, what a gift from a parent.
ibanez-god - you'll be right my friend, you have a talent with guitar, a lovely nature, generosity and you are a good teacher. I could never earn a crust from music, at least you could busk if you had to (you'd probably earn a good income!) and sit on a stool :0). And it would be all yours.
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Thu Feb 26 '09 2:04:06 am
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Zenfish
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Slansh : Music is currently under a crap system..
Commecial stuff is commercial stuff inside the hands of commercial guys. They don't serve the music. They use music to save money. They kill the flower inside people's brains.
None commercial stuff is full of incredible guys who build serious things to serve music.. check Jamendo. A minority of them become a few known. Very few famous.
To get an other job than music is the price to pay to be independant in music & serve her.
& we are crossing very hard economic days.
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Thu Feb 26 '09 2:39:17 am
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michelle
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Slan, I'm 44 and life is still big hugs and uh oh's!
Man, I'm in such a sucky mood I just wanna quit my job and crawl into a feckin hole for a while. Some days it feels like yer treading water with weights on yer ankles.
ah well, tra-la tra-la.... off I go....
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Thu Feb 26 '09 3:37:08 am
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Satriella
Satriella Walker Sudbury, Suffolk United Kingdom
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ibanez_god - oH MY WORD!!!! ....i dont know what was worse....the singing...the dancing....if thats what you could call it...the words....or leonard nearly kissing that girl....eeeeeurkkkk!
Lord of the Rings...is now ruined!
LMHO!!
Hugs Satriella xx
PS ....I wonder if JOE has his hands insured?
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