Hey Abdul: All I can say is "Build in and they will come"...

Not sure if any of them will bring a guitar from Joe, but I'm pretty sure someone will go there.

T - how was the movie?? You and Mum alright hehe?

Saw Gran Torino last night, really enjoyed it, so different from your average "Clunk" movie and great ending.

Joe - the fretboard (to this Dummy) is like a 'magic eye" picture. Hidden all over it are heaps of related notes, or families of notes, but positions of them all escape me. Was it the same for you when you first began?

I'm going to make dozens of photocopies of the fretboard diagram and mark out all the groups, scales, key signatures etc. so I can start to memorise where they are instead of counting up the frets from the open string notes etc.

Skippygirl..You are on the right track. It will all come to you.

Good morning from Arkansas,...5:00 A.M. No sun yet.

Hiya burly - I just googled a heap of fretboard diagrams and will print them off tomorrow and start to really understand where all the notes are and how they relate.

I'm trying to learn to pick notes but nothing is in time cos I have to keep referencing which note it is and which string. I wrote all the letters of the notes under the musical notation to help, but then you get different octaves of notes and I got lost again.

Skippygirl: use TAB (Tablature) notation to start with. It's a whole lot easier.

With "normal" notation, the notes are important, but they typically refer to a certain note that in most instruments can only be played one way (ie: a piano has only 1 middle C). For a guitar, it doesn't really matter which "middle C" you hit when you are starting off.

Skilled guitarists (not me!) choose the particular middle-C they want to hit depending on a whole bunch of things. It could be right after a long slide up, so it may be right up the fretboard near the body, or maybe they want a different tone, or they have a particular run they want to play in one hit, or combine with an open string. The latter cases are more likely.

I've also seen heaps of examples where "official" tab for a song doesn't match what the artist plays. Take the official tab for Super Colossal album - for Ten Words, the second "echo" of the tag line is shown on the first 3 frets around the high E string, but if you listen carefully it sounds wrong. When I saw Joe play it on videos and live, I saw it around the 9th to 12th fret on the middle strings, and when you play it there it sounds so much better.

So the "correct" note is really a matter of expression, and or convenience or necessity... :)

mind you, I'm still a beginner, so that's all I've managed to work out so far.

You can also learn to "Sight read" tab a whole lot quicker than standard notation. At least that's for me. I guess the side effect is you become lazy and don't learn the notes as you should.

PS. Did you consider my email any more Skippy?

damn maritime, you gots more flowers right there than I've gotten in a lifetime, lol.....they sound purty, and definitely just the thing to cheer a space up. G'ahead, be gay if that's what it takes...spring flowers are lovely and much better than the snow and ice we have currently going here!

Skippy....I guess we did survive that damn movie but I scelped (screamed and yelped) a few times and grabbed me mums hands....I have a bowl of nuts still sitting around from Christmas and she decided to crack and eat a couple....she had a hard time getting them cracked so I jumped over there to do it for her, next to her on the couch, and then I stayed right there!! Great excuse to huddle and have her protect me!! lol! And she laughed at meh fer jumping but I don't care....the boogie mans dint get us :)

It's a disturbing movie...most of it is not as intensely scary as I thought it would be, but the last 10 minutes or so makes up for it...gah.......

McDave

Better than Moose Foot too!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mike..praying for the father in law, hope all goes well.

Skippy..4:30- 5:00 A.M. is normal for a farmer. It makes for a long day going until 9:00P. Ok so it's 9: 30 A here. What time is it it Australia?

maritime, Spring in my country, ánd in Amsterdam. Yes there are even red, purple and yellow tulips next to my PC screen! Narcissus flowers on the kitchen table. Yellow narcissus on the coffee table. Given to me by friends to cheer up the heavy heart. But one more bunch and I will look gay! LOL!

*hands over one more bunch of flowers*

mikesb, sorry to hear that about yer F-in-law. That stinks! My sis was supposed to have her surgery at 10:30 a.m., but had to wait till after 4:00 p.m. because the doc had complications with his first patient. That was nerve wracking enough, but to have to wait days ffs! That's just abusive! So sorry to hear it - poor dude.

SuperSwingDog - LOL!! Hopefully Sammy never logs on to this site. You might give him an idea!