Michelle - Cool story, well I guess when you boil it right down he is just another shmuck like we are, the only thing is he can play the hell out of a guitar and has a cool gig playing with one of the greatest.

Roy- Yes I considered an online course from Berklee but those are pretty expensive and I am not just real sure about online courses. I may check with Arkansas State (about 40 min.) They do have a small program but not sure how deep they go there. Thanks Roy.

Once again folks I welcome and greatly appreciate any advice or enlightenment you can give. You are all very helpful. Now your heads are going to swell :-)Thanks!!

elpp - I'm not too crazy about what's happening in the auto industry. I know there are a lot of jobs there and it'd be catastrophic if GM goes under, but I don't think complete government support is the way to go.

I think there's a lot of fat that can be trimmed from these companies, and that some of the financial problems are due to agreements that never should have been made in the first place (very generous pensions, etc.). The city of Long Beach has had some serious budget problems lately for the same reason.

It'll be interesting to see what happens...the U.S. has been behind in the auto industry for a long time, and I don't think government oversight (which will certainly include a push toward electric cars) will make things better.

Sammy has recorded a ton of music over the years and you're really just scratching the surface if you only have one album. He has some very good Greatest Hits collections, if you're interested. I have Unboxed, which I highly recommend. There's also The Essential Red Collection, which I don't have, but the track selection is very solid. If you want live stuff, you could also go with Live Hallelujah.

If you want something fun, pick up I Never Said Goodbye. It was released between Van Halen's 5150 and OU812 to fulfill a contractual agreement with Geffen Records, and Eddie Van Halen plays bass on it...

Let me know what you like and what you don't...I can mail you a package of some DMB bootlegs from their earlier years, if you want.

Do the Stu and Hybes- I saw DMB a few years back in Memphis, very tight band live. Incredible musicians indeed.

Do the Stu - I think Too Much is my favorite. Don't Drink the Water is really good. I like their version of Cortez, the Killer. All Along the Watchtower is the best version I think I have heard. AWESOME! I did know What Would you Say. Gotta say I am very impressed. They are much better musicians than I realized. I think they were here last year. Too bad I missed it. I'd like to check out the bootleg.

Burly - I listened to Tony Spinner again tonight on my headphones. They really jam.

So how come Dave Weiner is selling all his stuff. Did he pick up a bunch of new gear?

Ozzy_Fudd - Joe actually played Psycho Vertigo with Planet Us live on Rockline a few years ago (though the song was just called Vertigo then), when Sammy Hagar was the guest. Here it is:

Planet Us - Vertigo

The Beastie Boys cover is a bit odd on the album, but it's very fun when Sammy does it live (and he starts the song with a bit of Eddie Cochran's Summertime Blues). He's actually done a lot of covers over the years...Otis Redding's (Sittin' On) The Dock Of The Bay, Janis Jopplin's Piece Of My Heart, and the Staples Singers' I'll Take You There. If any of his usual cover songs end up in a Chickenfoot setlist, though, I bet it'll be something like Whole Lotta Love or Rock And Roll from Led Zeppelin. I'd love to be surprised with something else, though...

Drop me an email (you've emailed me before, but my address is in my profile if you need it again) with your mailing address and I'll send you copies of a few DMB live bootlegs.

Back to Satch...I glanced at the Chickenfoot site and can't find the pictures you're talking about. Where are they?

I'm sure his voice was shot at the next show on the tour, though. ;-)

Salamat Datang to T2J, Bapak JHOJO!

It is good you teach your anak to play guitar. Do you have perempuan?

elpp - Greed my friend,..greed. I think a lot of people thought we would just keep riding a wave, record high stocks just kept setting new records. Companies were too profit driven to earn $ for shareholders. Wages did not increase with the rapid rise in the cost of living, and with gasoline prices going to the level they were last year, folks just could not make ends meet. First they were late on a few car notes, then the house and then eventually could not make the payments at all. If you are struggling in making payments, you are not buying new televisions, furniture, new cars. You wore those clothes a little longer than normal. Than decreased demand for those products so many lost their jobs. Just a vicious cycle in a way. When a company makes record profits year after year, they need to pass more of it down to the folks who are turning the wheels. Things just got too far out of balance, and balance is the key.

Farm subsidies are a tough subject in the U.S. We had some descent payments a few years ago but are almost non- existent. A popular website used to run and you could search by county and find my name and see how much government $ I drew. What folks did not realize was that a very large portion of that was commodity loans that had to be paid back within the year. Of the countries who subsidize farmers, we are by far the least. What the world needs to realize is that when all of the family farms are out, then farming becomes corporate and we all know that large corporations WILL make a profit. When agricultural production is in the hands of a few, then they will be able to control the price to guarantee a profit. Then lookout below.

Ozzy fans- remember back when Randy died, I believe it was near the beginning of the Diary of a Madman tour. Brad Gillis of Night Ranger filled in on the rest of the tour. I remember a live broadcast of a show in Memphis that I recorded on cassette. My God man,..If anyone has that out there, let me know, I unfortunately did not keep a copy and completely wore the tape out.

All you older ones like me remember Black Oak Arkansas ? This was Tommy Aldridge on drums, his first big taste of the big time. Of course he went on to play for Whitesnake, Ozzy, Pat Travers, (remember the killer double bass licks on "Boom Boom, Out Go the Lights"?) He played with a lot of the rockers we all know. He was actually playing for Ted Nugent the last time I saw him. This guy is just awesome.

Black Oak Arkansas was formed by a bunch of guys local to me, led by Jim Dandy, We did a few shows with "Jim Dandy" in the 80s at some local clubs, He was a hoot.

Igneousiceman:The same people that use facebook also it seems love t waste life watching reality shows n sending me chain mails grrrrr not that i,m generalizing but i can so i will imo = peeps with serious social & mental health issues

Myspace/soundclick is useful, gets your music heard gets you listening to other musicians & keeps you in contact with old friends/ band members that i get, but facebook! cmon....if you are one of those people who have the time or more worryingly WANT t maintain a site that "someone sends you a cyber bcake/hi5 etc etc" shite, someone needs t give ya a serious boot in the cojones

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Slanshroom- Yes BOA had already ran it's course at that time. Funny how timing has everything to do with most things.

Hey Joe.