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roo
Andrew Longhorn
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Australia
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GG: get your teacher to help you pick up a good second hand or cheap electric and spring the $50 or whatever for a belt-clip amp, or a bit more for a cheap secondhand signal processor/amp simulator with speaker/headphones.

That's a cheap way out to get started. Then save those pennies for the cab/pedals/etc as you go.

Roo

Mon May 4 '09 6:03:02 pm Set this message as last read

roo
Andrew Longhorn
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GG: microcubes and other portable amps can come battery powered and mains, can have effects and headphone jacks too.

Here you can get a beginner setup for $150 to $300. That's a cheap guitar, mini amp with distortion/effects/ gig bag and stand.

Mon May 4 '09 6:05:00 pm Set this message as last read

Blue_Moon
Alan McKenna
Dublin
Ireland
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Ice 9 live is the best

unlike some songs :)
Mon May 4 '09 6:11:48 pm Set this message as last read

cosmic_ape
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I could do without it for now... Now, Summer Song is another thing ;)
Mon May 4 '09 6:13:16 pm Set this message as last read

Do The Stu
Austin Lewis, III
Costa Mesa, CA
United States
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If one of 'em had to go, I'd actually be in favor of giving Ice Nine the boot. I like it a bit more than Summer Song, but I grow tired of it faster (not to say I'm not also tired of Summer Song). I've heard Ice Nine a few tours in a row now and I think a break would be nice.

I guess I will get my break because I don't see Chickenfoot doing Ice Nine...I don't know that Michael Anthony has ever really played slap bass.


cheese101 - I'm all for Joe bringing back that jacket, but then I think he also needs to bring back the SBM flame pants. ;-)
SuperSwingDog - That is pretty cool...I love stuff like that. I've seen some sidewalk chalk artists in places like Venice Beach drawing similar things.

I thought this is a cool picture...I found it in the comments on the page you posted.


roo - I was at Amoeba Music in Hollywood the other day and saw a used cassette single for Flying In A Blue Dream. It had about five songs on it, all album tracks (I think One Big Rush and Big Bad Moon were among the other songs included).

Do you have any interest in that, as a collector? I looked on your website but only really see CDs listed. I can pick it up for you next time I'm there, if you'd like...maybe we can work out a trade for something.

...Austin...

Mon May 4 '09 6:26:06 pm Set this message as last read

Joe Satriani

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Austin, where did you find the Squares recordings? What a trip down time warp lane they are... Andy Milton R.I.P. ... Joe
Mon May 4 '09 6:34:29 pm Set this message as last read

burly
Steve Johnson
Pocahontas, Arkansas
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Joe - the thing is I think I have ran in to Larry Bill before.

E Mixo problem wanting to resolve in A only occurs when I try to stay with a pedal point in E Have not tried it in a E progression jAm situation..

I have employed double stops for years in minor pentatonic. (just didn't know it.)

Boy From Seattle- Would like very much to become comfortable with playing these Hendrix style double stop patterns along with the phrasings Vai did with them.. I think I shall have to take a slight detour on learning the modes and learn this song. Anyone else had experience with this song? Give me some pointers if so please.

Mon May 4 '09 6:38:22 pm Set this message as last read

cosmic_ape
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burly, if you're playing E mixo and want to resolve to A, you're doing it wrong...
Mon May 4 '09 6:52:10 pm Set this message as last read

burly
Steve Johnson
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E mixo double stops on the 3rd and 4th strings. descending my ear wants to resolve in A major,..a totally different style and feeling. E Mixo is A maj. I just seems like the thing to do if I follow the pattern all the way down the neck. I can resolve in E but it sounds dissonant in pedal point E to me.
Mon May 4 '09 6:59:55 pm Set this message as last read

cheese101

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Austin, believe it or not, as I was posting that video, I truly was thinkin the same thing...the pants HAFTA come out on tour with that jacket, they just HAFTA!!

:D

Mon May 4 '09 7:07:06 pm Set this message as last read

Blue_Moon
Alan McKenna
Dublin
Ireland
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What's goin on'! ..its just A!

theres some more squares tracks floating around the place

as i typed this message, a coldplay commercial came on tv :)
Mon May 4 '09 7:13:31 pm Set this message as last read

cosmic_ape
Aron Ortega
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burly,
play the blues, when you do it, do it scale chord approach. In a basic 12 bar blues in let's say A, you will have to play A mixolyidian, D mixolydian and E mixolydian, according to the chord changes... Do it slowly and try to get into a pentatonic mindset...

So, to make a mixolydian scale sound bluesy, you can bend from a minor third to a major third and try to play the chord tones (A - C# - E - G) predominantly, using all the others as passing tones. You might want to play the raised 6th (F#, for A major) a lot and after you go through all the changes you might start getting a hold to it... Just play the classic major pentatonic box with the added flatted 7th degree (G in this case) and you will be on your way...

Also, you might want to listen to JOE's "Hill Groove" and listen carefully to the C mixolydian vamp at the beginning... and watch how it never sounds like it's going to resolve to F major...


Mon May 4 '09 7:20:09 pm Set this message as last read

burly
Steve Johnson
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I understand that part it's just that the double stops beginning on C# on the 4th sting and the E on the 3rd string and descending this pattern all the way down to the E on the 4th and A# on the 3rd has a country feel and I want to naturally resolve the pedal point in A maj.

I can resolve in E and make it right, I just have to be careful how I resolve.

Mon May 4 '09 7:35:44 pm Set this message as last read

burly
Steve Johnson
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I do like Hill Groove thanks for the pointers. I will experiment with that.
Mon May 4 '09 7:38:15 pm Set this message as last read

michelle

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Al, any chance they were playing Joe's music in the background of that Coldplay commercial? lol!

Joseph, yer becoming a real post whore! Keep up the good work!

Mon May 4 '09 7:53:07 pm Set this message as last read

Blue_Moon
Alan McKenna
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Yeah yeah of corse M
Mon May 4 '09 7:54:05 pm Set this message as last read

Do The Stu
Austin Lewis, III
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Joe - I didn't realize Andy Milton had passed away. Was he involved in any other bands after the Squares? We know what you and Jeff have been up to, obviously...it'd be neat to hear what Andy went on to do as well.

To answer your question, I found those two songs while looking around online over the years, trying to track down some of your rare/out of print recordings. I have no idea where they originated...this was all two or three computers ago. ;-)

I think the Squares stuff is really fun to listen to...is there any chance you could put an official release together sometime in the future, either on CD or through iTunes? I bet a lot of us here would love to hear that...

...Austin...

Mon May 4 '09 8:02:22 pm Set this message as last read

roo
Andrew Longhorn
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Austin: Not really - I saw a bunch of them at Amoeba in SF in October last year and passed over them, and they come up on eBay. I guess one day I will regret not making the collection "complete" but I question their collectability. CD-yes, Vinyl yes.... Crappy tape?? Hmmmmmmm...

Now a vinyl of the squares would be a very nice addition to the collection, anyone got a spare one lying around? I'll pay you more than Joe does, unless he wins the Coldplay case, unless of course I win the lotto first!

:)

Mon May 4 '09 8:04:41 pm Set this message as last read

roo
Andrew Longhorn
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Australia
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While I'm asking everyone to do massive favours for me, if anyone has connections or ability to get hold of an extra JSBDG black leather (limited) guitar strap - I seriously need one. Thats what is missing from my Guitar pack, that's the price you pay for getting a one before Joe signs the certs.

I have put in the legacy CD (signed) and since got the cert. But the purdy black 20th BDG strap is missing still... :(

Thanks for any help you awesome, well connected satchers!

Roo

Mon May 4 '09 8:08:04 pm Set this message as last read

Mihulka3
Ray Mihulka III
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When are u coming to Omaha? Do you know Micheal Lee Firkins?
Mon May 4 '09 8:09:28 pm Set this message as last read

Blue_Moon
Alan McKenna
Dublin
Ireland
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Did u ever get that "Genius of Joe Satriani" cd im amoeba music in L.a Austin!? ...I thought about it but didn't =/


and hey Joseph since yer around a bit, here's an old squares photo and a rare classic I mustered up...

Clicky Here

and im sure This was hip at the time


Edited Mon May 4 '09 8:50 pm
Mon May 4 '09 8:14:51 pm Set this message as last read

Joe Satriani

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Austin... Jeff, John Cuniberti and I are always moving a little closer to configuring some kind of Squares retrospective. John has baked the tapes and made the digi transfers, we just need some time to focus on it.... Andy passed away a few years ago without having pulled things together enough to make it back on the stage... Jeff and I saw him a few times out on tour, but... he was battling sobriety, and not being in a band... The irony is, he's on the radio more than me and Jeff, you can hear his great voice, clear as bell on "The Dream is Over" by Crowded House a few times a day anywhere in the world... Perhaps the memories still hurt too much for us to sit in a studio and deal with ... If you know someone out there who needs saving, don't wait, jump in... Joe
Mon May 4 '09 8:52:06 pm Set this message as last read

Joe Satriani

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Alan, Yes! Finally proof that I invented Blue Steel!!!
Mon May 4 '09 8:57:58 pm Set this message as last read

hybes
Mark Hybers
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Joe - It's sure nice to see you jump in here now and again and engage in conversation. It means a lot to all of us. Are you going to be able to put the final touches on your DVD before the Foot hits the road?
Mon May 4 '09 9:05:52 pm Set this message as last read

Joe Satriani

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Mark, almost finished with special features... We should have it ready for late September release.. Joe
Mon May 4 '09 9:07:14 pm Set this message as last read
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