Peace Lily
Debora Aylett Irrigon, Oregon United states
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It is an outrage but it could happen anywhere....... if we let it . Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this matter, Joe.
Jesse -Who are the "they" that you refer to ...hmmm?
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JesseKennemer
Jesse Kennemer Grants Pass, Oregon Usa Plays: Guitar (24 years)
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I didnt mean it to sound rude!
Arizona calls them Aliens.
Im fine with the ones that are forced to move out of Arizona
to move to Oregon. Its mainly Peace and Love here.
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Do The Stu
Austin Lewis, III Costa Mesa, CA United States Plays: Bass (25 years)
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Thanks for sharing that, Joe. It's nice to see a longer comment from someone like Zack instead of a lot of the knee-jerk criticisms I've seen elsewhere that don't have much thought put into them.
I think if this bill is successful at anything, it's that it will bring the issue front and center, as elpp said.
I'm not sure that a boycott is the right way to protest this, at least not yet. A boycott worked when the MLK holiday stuff happened 20 years ago...the NFL even moved the Super Bowl from Arizona to California one year. I think this situation is a bit different, though. The MLK thing was primarily the governor's doing (as I understand it), but 17 state legislators voted to pass this immigration bill. Regardless of my thoughts on the bill, I think because more people were involved in its passage a court challenege or statewide vote should be pursued before people turn to a boycott. Right or wrong, that's how I think the system should work.
michelle / Skippygirl - I've probably mentioned this before, but Aerosmith's 1997 biography Walk This Way is a great read. There's lots of drugs and sex and drugs, but there's a lot of great funny stories as well. The book is written in an interview format, and it's neat to read conflicting accounts of the same incident from different band members.
Listening to: Grace Potter and the Nocturnals - Apologies
Here is a version of that song on YouTube...I REALLY like Grace's voice.
And just for fun, here's the Grace Potter performance that's posted here all the time.
:-)
...Austin...
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JesseKennemer
Jesse Kennemer Grants Pass, Oregon Usa Plays: Guitar (24 years)
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Hey Joe, i know you have many other things on your mind, and your busy with all your work and music.
How ever, i really want you to hear this; and maybe hear your opinion. But i just know that this vintage rock/blues band "Blind Lion" could/would be a perfect opening act for Chickenfoot. Or maybe just for some westcoast shows! Our live sound is completely different ( better, a little heavier guitar and sound ). We will have videos up soon. Hope you have a quick listen. If i need to send a presskit so you can know more about us and what we do, and have done will do!
Blind Lion Music
Im ready for your new album, ice 9 pedal! and chickenfoot!
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Skippygirl
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Joe - sounds nasty, I don't begin to try to understand how your legislature works but hopefully AZ SB 1070 can be overridden by a Federal law? It also sounds like a cochamamie attempt at a bad solution in desperation to solve a problem.
Currently have Always with Me, Always with You by Joe Satriani paused. Posted using Talk2Joe - one of Roo's iPhone apps
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woodman300
Dave CA Plays: Guitar (2024 years)
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skippygirl
that new law in arizona is really not a new law. they simply took existing federal law and mandated that it be enforced. the federal law was passed in 1940. what they will be doing now is when a person is legally stopped for whatever reason they would have already been stopped, the officer will ask for their immigration status. if they are driving and have no license, then that is an indication that they may not be legal. the people of Arizona have passed this law with a large majority of support because they are in a war zone with the mexican drug cartels. they average 1 kidnapping a day there and most recently, a rancher who routinely helped the illegals when they passed thru his land was shot and killed by suspected grug smugglers. i think that as times continue to be tough financially on American citizens you will find broad support for laws that try to stop illegal immigrants for getting the benefits of free education for thier children and free medical attention. polls taken recently show this to be the case. i think it is also prudent to take a look at the immigration laws of Mexico which are much harsher then here. just being illegal once there gets you two years in prison and if caught a second time its ten years. i think we would all like to help the less fortunate, but there is a limit to the resources and i think American citizens should be the first to beneifit from tax dollars which are taken from them.
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Do The Stu
Austin Lewis, III Costa Mesa, CA United States Plays: Bass (25 years)
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Skippygirl - To answer your question in a different way...
When state laws and federal laws conflict with each other, the federal laws win. For example, federal law says it's a crime to possess marijuana for any reason. But some states, like California, have passed laws saying possession of marijuana for medicinal purposes is OK. So every now and then you'll hear about federal agents raiding medicinal marijuana facilities in California and making arrests (it doesn't happen too often...the federal government has avoided the confrontation by saying prosecuting medicinal marijuana cases isn't worth the resources).
In the case of the Arizona immigration bill, yes, the federal government could pass a new law to override it. But that's tricky...they can't just single out Arizona and cancel that one law, they'd have to pass a general law saying that only the federal government (and not individual states) has the power to create laws concerning immigration. And that won't happen, because it'd create a whole mess of other problems in states that already have other less controversial immigration laws in place.
It's a very complicated issue.
...Austin...
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Guitarvibes
Frits The T2J heretic. The Netherlands Plays: Guitar (1007 years)
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Mick Brigden make sure Joe does not play the same dates as Jeff Beck in the same country this fall. I would not want to choose (and have to sell my october Jeff Beck tickets to see Joe)
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michelle
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I think Obama's exact words were...
"That bitch is crazy!"
j/k, but I'm sure he said that at some point.
I really can't believe they passed a law like that. It's insane. So glad to hear yer views on it Joe. What can we do to help? If you find something - let us know!
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Satriella
Satriella Walker Sudbury, Suffolk United Kingdom
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Hello All,
Got my Bruce Bouillet albums through...good stuff...amazing the difference between the first and second album...on the first album it was like he had to prove that he could shred fast on every track (bit of an yngwie complex) but the second album had a lot more own style and complexity to the playing....he thanks Paul Gilbert in the sleeve, so maybe that was a big help...be interesting to see how much he has progressed now.
Mikesb - thought of you when I looked at the new dates for the London Guitar Show...much much later this year...but it was sure good to meet ya a couple of years ago!
Chappy Steve - thanks for the input and I see exactly where you are coming from and you are kinda right ..but it is a yes and no to the "no brainer"...you would need all the info to make the decision...which I have obviously...but you see, I cant have contact with my kids until we do either or & its been 2 years without them already.
Glitz man - Thought of you as we watched "Run Fatboy Run" yesterday, which is a film about a guy who runs a marathon to win back the love of his life...its a very funny film...good luck with all the up and coming ones you will be doing!
Michelle - LOL...thanks for the comment
Hugs Satriella xx
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Skippygirl
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Mick Brigden - please make sure Joe is booked for some Australian shows huh? What can I do to help make that happen, just drop me a line...
*sigh* I see 3 shows are booked for France already, go you lucky Frenchies!!!!
Rygel - you gave me lots of kind help over at the other place i remember, hope you get a Belgian show with Joe.
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Peace Lily
Debora Aylett Irrigon, Oregon United states
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Do The Stu- Apologies is one of my favorite songs. I started listening to Grace Potter (& The Nocturnals ) after watching the "Cortez Jam" for the first time. She sings with a lot of passion & has an awesome voice.
Cappy steve- I seem to be experiencing a Sarchasm ....maybe its caused by my Bozone layer.... lol j/k
Scar Tissue may have a lot of sex & drugs but it is definitely not erotica........
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fatape
craig North Lambton/Newcastle, NSW Australia Plays: Guitar (54 years)
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I'm sick of these aliens too!!! Parking their fecking spacecraft in our backyards and then trying to use their bloody anal probe on us!!! HOW F#@&ING DARE THEY!!!!!!!!
C'MON AUSSIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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death cube k
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well if more americans were willling to work hard less jobs would go to these people .. i am not saying all americans dont work hard .. but the wellfare nation should have to do these jobs to keep benefits along with a small sum of money from the employer ..but free money is better than working for it .. that being said people that are physically unable to work should be exempt
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The "doing the jobs Americans won't" is BS. The government just needs more tax payers in future to cover their debts. In the meantime they are turning the US into a third world cesspool.
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