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Do The Stu
Austin Lewis, III
Costa Mesa, CA
United States
Plays: Bass (25 years)
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I think people are reading way too much into that Van Halen soundcheck video (here it is again). Yes, it comes to an end quickly, but if you listen to the beginning they were told to only play for 45 seconds.

One thing that does stick out to me, though, is that it sounds like Eddie goes into the bridge of the song instead of the second verse. It may be just a creative way for him to end the minute or so of playing, but if it's a true mistake it's a pretty big one. You can listen to a full version of the song here. The soundcheck clip ends at about 1:10 in this new video, and the bridge starts at 1:56. Either way, Sammy and/or Mikey should've come in with more vocals right around the time this clip stopped (but they probably didn't, because it's only a soundcheck).

Anyway...all bands soundcheck differently (and Sammy doesn't even soundcheck with Chickenfoot), and I don't think this means anything or was a sign of things to come in Van Halen. I do agree that the Chickenfoot soundcheck looks more FUN than this Van Halen one (or most other bands' soundchecks), but that's another issue entirely...

And about interview comments, I've always found Sammy and Mikey to be completely honest (positive and negative) about Eddie. They may be critical of his work ethic, but they also rarely comment on his drinking and have never commented on (confirmed or denied) his rumored drug use.

Sammy has said some things about Eddie that could be seen as mean (the way he plays "all over the place" in a song, how long it takes him to write, etc.), but those comments always come as a comparison to something else. Sammy will say Eddie plays all over the place when he's talking about Joe, who knows to hold back a bit. Or he'll say at a show that it took him 43 days to write a song in Van Halen because he's talking about how cool it is for Chickenfoot to have done a whole album in that same period of time.

I just thought I'd add my two cents...I'm usually very critical of Eddie, but I don't see reason for that with this.

...Austin...

Edited Tue Oct 13 '09 1:42 pm

Tue Oct 13 '09 1:41:35 pm Set this message as last read

Blue_Moon
Alan McKenna
Dublin
Ireland
Plays: Guitar (23 years)
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whats wrong with that sound check i missed all the shizzle aobut it, just seems like a normal soundcheck
Tue Oct 13 '09 2:16:30 pm Set this message as last read

Al Surfer

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They are having fun in the "Van Halen - Soundcheck (1993-07-03)" video for sure. Same day with some Who thrown in and Sammy playing some guitar too. Good stuff.
Tue Oct 13 '09 2:25:35 pm Set this message as last read

joecam
joe campo
stevenage, hertfodshire
england
Plays: Guitar (18 years)
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hi joe new on here checked out the site last night really good interesting stuff going on here absolutley love your music as many have told you im sure but thanks for giving me some inspiration with my playing left all a bit late im afraid i aint gonna change the world but i love it now i have to go and buy an ibanez better get some overtime. in once again thankyou for your presence in such a complicated world
Tue Oct 13 '09 2:57:12 pm Set this message as last read

Skippygirl

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Pip55 - no "aye"? Yes one day I must go to those 2 "irelands" :>) and OK I could use jersey possibly, what do you call a cycling top then smartypants? lol.

Scuby - oh I get it re the RX8. Haven't checked the vids yet but will do tonight.

Tue Oct 13 '09 3:15:27 pm Set this message as last read

axeshredderjc
Joe Axeshredder
Long Island, NY
United States
Plays: Guitar (45 years)
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the EVH subject...well ive gotten into this at youtube many times...but heres my opinion for whatever its worth....

I was the one biggest fan EVH probably ever had so this isnt coming from someone who doesnt respect Eddie. What i dont respect is.....when a fan approached him back in the day he would throw a bodyguard at them...more than once hes tryed to sue or profit from remakes of his guitars...now he sells them for $25,000...Hes wrote some of the most amazing songs in Rock History but takes his talent for granted and uses it as a tool to keep releasing overpriced gear for profit without releasing any new music.....his performance last tour was some of the sloppiest playing ive ever heard...definately not the Eddie of the 80's...and as a musician His tricks are now getting boring to me and my ears hear feeling and expression and a whole other level coming from Joe and a few others. So if your a music listening fan and you good with the old classics...thats great...i am a musician and try to excel every day...through knowledge and experience...and Joe has taught me 100x times more than Eddie through there music.....the world calls EVH a Guitar God....but the only person i find worthy of God or King when it comes to the guitar is...well just guess...lol....Eddie has become an example of what not to do......as Far as respect from Sammy and Mike....ive heard and read almost every interview with these guys and never once did they ever say anything bad and always the truth....Eddies comments have always been negative or plain ol lies and even his fans Rank on Mike and Sammy though Eddie is the one that chose them both. When the Chickenfoot site opened , some very negative comments were posted...They were coming directly from the EVH camp....dont ask me how i know this..but it was true....finally...the hall of Fame Blow off...was another nail in the coffin of my fanship.....and seeing Chcikenfoot Sammy wearing his OU812 shirt at the beacon was clearly a sign of respect...yeah i have old band shirts...i would never wear them in public...lol...say what you want but Eddies ego and arrogance will never change as its repeated with every group he plays with....a majority of my comments would be forgotten if a heard a new song as promised by eddie for years, decades..whatever...tired of hoping for him to come to....probably too late....He was asked about his opinion of Chickenfoot and he said.." I dont listen to anyone".....bullshit!....pretty much my last interest in Him Latest news from EVH is he had surgery on his arm and wont be able to play....2 weeks later hes twittering that he playing old VH songs...some ol same ol...lies and no new music...thats all.

Austin DTS- your points are 100% valid and i agree...You cant blame Sammy for having a little built up anger when he gave Eddie 100% and dealt with his crap and he played the kick the guy out card..the easy road...and for Mike who should be more angry than anyone....is smiling and happy all the time..he must have been like family to the VH's...ill never understand that move..Eddie should have started a new band w/ wolfie but no new music..lol

Feedback- the real key to sweet feedback besides volume is perfect tuning!...which is a whole other subject...and not just using a tuner..lol..:)...ever hear of Caruso..an italian Opera Singer , i think, would break glasses with his voice.....feedback is basically the same principle

Edited Tue Oct 13 '09 4:31 pm

Tue Oct 13 '09 3:29:32 pm Set this message as last read

wolf2

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....Hey compodre ,we are doing good very good yez! everything I ordered I picked up today.Had to phone in a repeat on my prescription for my risperdal and my lipitor the lipitor is about3 00.00 the risperdal is about 600.00 dollar,s man then cigarette teci .I only use special cigarette tube`s hey man when I make my cigaetretts alright you squeezed it out of me .THEIR CALLED RAYO just rayo ,the spelling and the packaging looks like first blood part 2 rambo man like same printing when you make your cigarette it look,s like rambo made you a cigarette or like your rambo smoking it no shit Ive been waiting a week man I told him if he didnt have them I was punching him and we will see if he get`s back up! Ive been waiting since last tuesday one week he was allout so he gave me players wich are 2.59 abox for 2.40 with no 13% tax on them their shitty taste terrible fuck felt like i was waseting my primo legal duty paid tobbaco man these are 1.59 for a box kingsize 200 tubes one carton it makes i bought 3 of them were grooving now hey he had to go 2 hours to get them he lived though right ? ! and I have my rambo cigarette`s more coffe cigarette was useing some rolling papers mixed players tubes to stertch them until my rayo order came in made it didnt have to buy waste of money exspensive tubes that suck! man! way better RAYO RAMBO! LATERZ WOLF2.
Tue Oct 13 '09 3:51:29 pm Set this message as last read

TheHawkGuy
Danny
California
USA
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EVH was on drugs and drugs DO changes you into more then negatives...a perfect example.look at brittnet spears.. she got connected to a wrong guy who is a drug dealers and so forth, but now her family made sure that this guy stay apart from her life? shes doing bettter
Tue Oct 13 '09 3:54:03 pm Set this message as last read

Two Shay

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Scooby Doo - Pippy spotted it but mebbe you didn't, Guernsey, Jersey and 'Sark' are all Channel Islands. Sometimes i'm so sharp I cut myself! LOL
Tue Oct 13 '09 4:14:39 pm Set this message as last read

Donkey Hotay

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Cappy, missed that, and never heard of Isle of Sark (did you not mention Scilly recently??) My fave islands are where Spinal Tap played their festivals ...Isle of Lucy and Isle of View...

Edited Tue Oct 13 '09 4:30 pm
Tue Oct 13 '09 4:26:29 pm Set this message as last read

Glitz Man
Grant Stieglitz
Fort Wayne, Indiana
USA
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Happy Birthday Sammy!

Do The Stu: Thanks for the info. How have you been?

McDave: Great to hear from you. How are you and the family doing? Sorry to hear about the unemployment thing. What's the weather doing over there? The weather here is getting colder. First we had normal 70 degree weather and then all of a sudden, we're in the 50s. It's going to be that way all this week. I'm still running. I finally got up to 20 miles nonstop last Sunday. A marathon should be coming up soon for me (to accomplish).

Work at the hotel went well today. Now I work the next two days at the guitar shop which is cool. In case you are wondering, I have sold about seven guitars (acoustic), as well as some accessories. Our website is going through a little makeover right now, but it should be done soon so I can post the link soon.

AYE!

Tue Oct 13 '09 4:53:54 pm Set this message as last read

Two Shay

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Did I say Sark?
Tue Oct 13 '09 4:54:47 pm Set this message as last read

death cube k

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axeshredderjc while i agree with most of what you said .. aint many guys trying to copy joe's not of this earth strat .. the striped thing EVH has trademark on that .. last tour with dlr he played way better than 2004 with sammy i was embarrassed for him and i LOVE Edward .. lets hope we get new music this year as they have said .. Chickenfoot is great i love em.. I love VH 2 different bands both good
Tue Oct 13 '09 4:59:09 pm Set this message as last read

Donkey Hotay

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Thank you Cappy... that IS a small one and one I am sure you managed to avoid...
Tue Oct 13 '09 4:59:49 pm Set this message as last read

slanshroom
roy marchbank
Scotland, Barcelona
Spain
Plays: Guitar (51 years)
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scuba...yer just pissed yer bro robbed yer skirt

SARCASM

i like t think myself a bit witty & never laugh at a person, always with em in company

posts dont give clarity to anothers personality unfortunately but for me it goes like this

i like a peep i,ll hang around, i dont.. i leave

If they hit me....I cut them a new mouth

thats how i tick, love or hate that viewpoint, i dont give a toss, i call a spade a spade, t be blunt... i dont fuck around

So Sccobs.....how long did it take to flatten out the front of yer skirt t look like a gay Scot or did yer brother do it for y?



Edited Tue Oct 13 '09 5:24 pm

Tue Oct 13 '09 5:08:19 pm Set this message as last read

Pip55
Phil W...
... from South West UK
Pip55 on twitter
Plays: Guitar
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Sleep failure.........

Cappy Steve - it was so sharp I almost missed it, but very funny use of wordage.

Scuba - ah, got you re headphones... scilly, v good.

Skippy - aye, very good on the irelands. It's a cycling jersey, gotta be. I'll check with Lance lol

slanshroom - if you call a spade a spade, out of curioisity, what would you call James Blunt?

Right, sleep attempt number 2

Tue Oct 13 '09 5:28:46 pm Set this message as last read

Pip55
Phil W...
... from South West UK
Pip55 on twitter
Plays: Guitar
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Oh, P.S Skippsy Wippsy girl (!?)....

Aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye

That should help, sorry I missed it before

edited to say.... this looks like a high quality DVD of Mr Big 2009 tour so think I'll be getting that to last me over until the PSATMOR DVD drops



Edited Tue Oct 13 '09 5:34 pm

Tue Oct 13 '09 5:31:04 pm Set this message as last read

doobie1978
Steven Fisher
Adelaide, S.A
Australia
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Howdy Joe :-). Was wondering when you are going to do another tour @ the Thebarton Theatre (Adelaide) In South Australia, Australia? I totally enjoyed the gig that you had done @ Thebarton Theatre last year. That was the best guitaring i have ever seen in my entire life. Im pretty sure people will want you to come back (By Popular Demand) & play again @ The Thebarton Theatre. I know i want you come back for another gig. I would again go for sure. Well Catch you later Joe & take it ez and i hope to see you play @ another gig @ The Thebarton Theatre in the near future.
Tue Oct 13 '09 6:02:44 pm Set this message as last read

McDave

Cook, MN

Plays: Guitar (40 years)
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GlitzMan....it was 26 degrees at 9 this morning, but warmed into the 50's by the afternoon. The inch of snow we got the other day is gone but it won't be long before there is more. Yeah the economy still sucks up here. I have some small jobs lined up so all is not lost.

Running seems like a healthy thing to get into. I would be afraid of my heart exploding if I tried..lol. I guess I get enough exercise running up and down ladders for now. Take care and thanks..

Tue Oct 13 '09 6:10:14 pm Set this message as last read

wolf2

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....a their isnt a cop police dpartment army airforce that would fuck with me!.Well No i have been kiing on average 90 - 300 in california a day and 32- 112 aday here in Ontario, you see their police you kill them of course Their gun and tazer wont work own the country dumb dumb when your on social assistance if police try to interfere with supporting yourself like buying ciagertte tube,s for 2 doctor prescribe d tobbacco use your allowed to kill them as long as you have 800 in the bank and can do a bench press test your also allowed to kill the store owner and sighn it over into your name with a percentage going to social asistnance hence dissabilty I collect more coffee later wolf2.
Tue Oct 13 '09 6:23:48 pm Set this message as last read

Blue_Moon
Alan McKenna
Dublin
Ireland
Plays: Guitar (23 years)
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ur up late royston

cant sleep eyes are sore but just cant sleeeeep

irish match on tomorrow goona be jammers in town, irish match is being played here, octoberfest is on and pink is playing... jammers


going to seee the irish match then an acoustic gig, got some recording session cracking on on teh weekend or next week should be fun
Tue Oct 13 '09 6:40:46 pm Set this message as last read

michelle

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Happy Anniversary Mr & Mrs Keniko!

Pip, thanks :-) Me mums still giving us a worry. Hopefully she'll be right as rain soon enough.

Cappy, I been told that "pippy" is his bedroom name, Don't use it unless you wanna get a rIse out of him. lmao!

Tue Oct 13 '09 7:43:31 pm Set this message as last read

ceciliaramona
Cecilia Bravo
Santiago del Estero, Santiago del Estero
Argentina
Plays: Keyboards (55 years)
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I´m very curious to know if the youtube version of Summer (Vivaldi) is really performed by Satch. According to the comments about the tapes of this site, the version is performed by another guitarist. Please, answer to my inquiry. Hugs, Cecilia
Tue Oct 13 '09 8:12:05 pm Set this message as last read

Blue_Moon
Alan McKenna
Dublin
Ireland
Plays: Guitar (23 years)
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defintily not joe...
Tue Oct 13 '09 8:18:19 pm Set this message as last read

roo
Andrew Longhorn
iphone app: RooSatch
Australia
Plays: Guitar (34 years)
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Jjc2009: funny, I think it's more related to guitar and your driver. I barely crack 1/4 on my Marshall volume through the clean with a js1000 and a satchurator with no other effects and can get almost instant feedback sitting 2 m away in my lounge room. Tilting the guitar and pivoting and rolling it I can just about get all the notes I need for the intro. Some are a little more work. I'll try tonight with my little portable peavey and see how I go...

What's your distortion coming from?

pip: no, they are a fine artist, not a clearcoat specialist. I wouldn't want to waste their time.

Looks like I can use the high quality 2-part auto-clear the spray guys have here. They have the test piece now. If it works I'll give them the guitar in a week or so.
Roo



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Tue Oct 13 '09 9:38:38 pm Set this message as last read
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