Ethn Hayabusa
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Also, Badd 11 and Badd4 are the same thing. The 4th degree of B is E, and so is the 11th, the only difference being that an 11th is an octave higher.
If you are learning "Always with ..."
the chord Joe plays is technically a Badd11, or Badd11no5 if you want to nitpick. I suppose the 5 (F#) is supplied by the melody, but that fits under the umbrella of implied harmony.
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Frits The T2J heretic.
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Bmaj add4
E - 2nd fret
B - 4th fret
G - 4th fret
D - 2nd fret
A - 2nd fret (root)
Barre chord on 2nd fret with 1st finger
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Frits The T2J heretic.
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true, I add 4th on 4th string! Sundaymorning...... :-)
Would have to listen to the song to see which voicing Joe used (maybe someone's got the "official" songbook of that album)
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Sun Apr 25 '10 12:17:15 am
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Ethn Hayabusa
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I just looked at a tab of "If I could fly", and the tab I saw uses Badd11, not Badd4. If the E in the chord is not within the same octave as the root, then it is not a Badd4, it is a Badd11.
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Sun Apr 25 '10 12:21:09 am
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Skippygirl
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Well Joe's words were "If I Could Fly does indeed start off with a first position G maj 7 to an F# min 7 add 11 , twice, then remodulates to a B major with added 4th (first string)."
Should I try the
2
4
4
2
2
0
or the
0
4
4
0
2
0
?
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Frits The T2J heretic.
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yep, 4+7= 11 :-)
with that progression the 2nd option makes more sense (see if you hear the low E in it on the record...)
If Joe slept of the Cabo tequila on Sammy's beach he could tell you, or even better: Galen Henson!
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Ethn Hayabusa
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Yeah some people don't really care about the difference between a 4th and an 11th, or a 2nd and a 9th. For instance, people frequently call "Add9no3rd" chords "sus2" chords, even though they are not technically the same thing.
It's not really a huge deal, but if you want to get the song exact then you are going to want to use an 11th, not a 4th for the added extension on that chord.
The tab I saw used the open E string to get the 11th.
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jamie anderson
melbourne, victoria
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The chords are actually.
A , Gmaj7 ,F#m7add4 ,Gmaj7 ,F#m7add4 ,Badd4
The Badd4 is 7th fret E string 9th fret A+D strings 8th fret G string open B+E strings just thought i'd chip and confuse ya some more.
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Sun Apr 25 '10 1:14:48 am
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cosmic_ape
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The Badd4 voicing JOE uses on the verse of "If I could Fly" is this:
e-0
B-0
G-8
D-9
A-9
E-7
Both the first and second strings are played open. This is a common acoustic guitar voicing... For the chorus, he plays Em7, A, A/D, Bmadd4 and that voicing is:
e-0
B-3
G-4
D-4
A-2
E-x
Hope that helps...
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Skippygirl
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Thanks guys, appreciate the input. Joe said the chorus is "Emin7, A maj, Dmaj 9, Bmin" but I'll play around with it.
Any idea what the strumming pattern is? I still don't have an ear for that.
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Guitarvibes - I really need 115 posts! Working guitar stuff out is incredibly complicated but I am looking forward to being able to understand it in about 10 years and I enjoy nutting things out..
(16 haha!)
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Alexander Larsen
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Hey all satch-fans
In the music video Ten words live in anaheim 2006 Joe wears black sunglasses (as always) but it isnt Oakleys.
Does any1 know which sunglasses he wears at that time?
/Regards Alexander
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Watching Avatar for the first time with my mum.....really really good so far!!! She keeps marveling at the technology and thinks the blue people are real, LOL!
Back to the movie, potty break over..... :)
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