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oxley11

Hackensack, NJ
United States
Plays: Guitar (15 years)
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I need to ask everybody a series of questions.

What do you consider the classifications of being a fan of a type of music or a certain band or a certain actor/comedian??

Do you think you can be a fan if you know the name of the band, but don't know any names of the songs?

Do you think you can be considered a fan if you don't feel the need to buy any of their albums or have no interest in going to a concert?

Is there a line between "I'm a fan of (that band)" and "I like their work"???

And finally. If you were to ask a person if they were a fan of something, do you think it should only be a yes or no answer?? Is being a fan black or white, or are their shades of gray in between?

Please let me know what you guys think. I don't mind if you expand on your answers

Mon Feb 14 '11 5:55:17 pm Set this message as last read

woodman300
Dave
CA
Plays: Guitar (2024 years)
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regarding the fan question

i believe the term 'fan' is short for fanatic. To answer the questions,

Do you think you can be a fan if you know the name of the band, but don't know any names of the songs? no. a fan knows the names of most or all of the songs and also knows about the band's history and members.

Do you think you can be considered a fan if you don't feel the need to buy any of their albums or have no interest in going to a concert? no. if you are a fan, you have at least some of the band's work and you have interest in going to a concert. you may not be able to go due to where you live but you want to. you don't need to own everything a band has ever created. the group may have changed over time and the music styles could be way different- early doobie brothers vs. later doobie brothers is an example.

Is there a line between "I'm a fan of (that band)" and "I like their work"??? yes. many people like lots of band's music but they may not be true fans.

And finally. If you were to ask a person if they were a fan of something, do you think it should only be a yes or no answer?? Is being a fan black or white, or are their shades of gray in between? yes or no. no shades of gray.

just my two cents

btw i have been a true Joe fan for years and i am also a recent fan of joe bonamassa, dream theater, andy timmons. even with all the music choices i have, i still find myself listening to these most of the time. i guess i am a true fan of guitar.

Mon Feb 14 '11 9:54:43 pm Set this message as last read

WhammyFreak

Plays: Keyboards (17 years)
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Mackai Daddy - I'll have to take exception to you're calling Arcade Fire a "shitty band." Personally I think they are very talented absolutely amazing new musicians and as goes music that masses of people like to hear, that's the stuff man. It's not cheesy or poppy, if you've ever seen them live it's a life changing experience, they are truly free musicians, not constrained by any expectations, which is what makes their music so great.

To Everyone Else - I personally used to get very angry watching Joe get nomination after nomination and some "shitty band" beat him out for best song or best album, or whatever. I have come to realize that I think the "Grammy people" have come to their senses and know now how insulting it is to keep nominating a person as awesome, as deep, as musically perfect as Joe Satriani knowing full well that he doesn't have hardly a chance to win the Grammy.

Why do I say that? Because he's a not a mass crowd pleaser and not a mass money maker. He doesn't sell albums like Gaga or Beiber or you name it.

He has us, his dedicated fans, to follow him and share his music with others so that they may in turn share it if they like it. That's our Joe, and I think that's hat needs to be said. The day he wins a Grammy is the day hell freezes over or some other miracle occurs, because Joe will not lower himself to the place the record companies want him at so as to make him a crowd pleaser and mass money maker.

Thanks for reading, just my two cents.

Mon Feb 14 '11 11:16:14 pm Set this message as last read

michelle

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Pretty accurate 2 cents.

Mornin' peeps!

Tue Feb 15 '11 3:36:10 am Set this message as last read

wolf2

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I don`t know about this whole regular unleaded thing,The ATK is not too terribly bad on it.I just get some pain and some poohs from the rear adjuster,the rear brakes it doesnt make me sick when I run regular the 125 like things that were suppose to run on leaded make you sick when you run unleaeded hey man.The gas im useing is cool belive it or not I buy it from a company I own it,s XTR gas and oil in the ATK man right now they have winter gas for fuel injections and their mix is kind of blue and oily.It,s deffinetly different in your dirtbike atleast it is for me in the big 406 rotax it,s very smooth with it though in the cold so thats alright.she took 20 bucks and a bottle of oil.The rear brakes are the way I like em the way their suppose to be.I dont remeber buying fuel he radiod said I bought that maybe i remeber going their.doing better today the immunity thing is sort of over I just been and theirs no tracks the big rotax were good. anyways 8 am risperdal 5 mg wolf2.it could only be the atk the xtr doesnt open until5 am it would have to be a headlight ride so must be the406wolfie.
Tue Feb 15 '11 4:19:25 am Set this message as last read

vfelisardo
Valdomiro Felisardo
Bebedouro, São paulo
Brazil
Plays: Guitar (14 years)
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Satriani, I'm brazilian and I am his fan for a long time. I love the style I admire his ability. The time I started playing, and I follow his style, and I also started my collection of picks, and I would earnestly ask you to send me some picks her, to add prestige to my collection. The shipping address is:

Valdomiro Joaquim Felisardo Junior St Aristides Bastos Aguiar, 741 Res Centenario Bebedouro - SP Brazil Cep 14711-442

Thank you for your attention! Satriani forever

Tue Feb 15 '11 7:16:51 am Set this message as last read

civgeek
Matt Dorado
Portland, OR
USA
Plays: Guitar (53 years)
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woodman300 - I would have to disagree on your point one. I am a fan of Joe's music and have been for MANY years. There are A LOT of songs I don't know the name of. Mainly because I tend to listen to artists on my Pod and in random order so that I hear all the songs fairly equally. There are tunes I'm not even sure what album they are off of. Less of a fan. I think not.



And for those of you in the Portland, Or area only four day till we pop our cherry at the Tonic Lounge. For a quick clip check the promo below on our Reverb Nation page. See th clip check the pics listen to some tunes. See you Friday!

Pop Our Cherry - Gig

Edited Tue Feb 15 '11 8:03 am

Tue Feb 15 '11 8:01:21 am Set this message as last read

Two Shay

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True fans, real fans, biggest fans, whatever fans, it's all rather boring.

If you think you're a fan then you're a fan.

Doesn't matter a shit what anyone else thinks.

Tue Feb 15 '11 9:18:45 am Set this message as last read

Donkey Hotay

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Two, are you saying the shit hit the fans????
Tue Feb 15 '11 10:31:35 am Set this message as last read

Glitz Man
Grant Stieglitz
Fort Wayne, Indiana
USA
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Hi Everyone.

Work at the Marriott and the guitar shop has been keeping me busy, which unfortunately is taking a toll on my running. On the brighter side, I do have today and the next two days off so I can get some running in. Running season has started again, and I had to pass on a couple of 5K races already due to work and the big marathon that's coming up.

I'll be running on February 27th up in Goshen, Indiana. I'm running the 3rd Annual Maple Leaf Indoor Marathon (a marathon on an indoor track, running 204 laps). That's three days after my 26th birthday. What a coincidence that I'll be turning 26 on the 24th and in three days, I'll be running 26.2 miles. What a birthday week/weekend I'll have!

Here are the lists on who's running. I'm on the Sunday list (#25). I also think that I'm the youngest running this event. Feel free to look at more info about this event, if you're interested.

I'm also chilling with a buddy of mine who still wants me to learn guitar. I hardly have time due to my hectic schedules. Hopefully I can get some time in with him, plus work on some singing. I did my first karaoke last December and believe it or not, I was a bit scared, and really nervous. This was more nerve racking than running a marathon and trying to qualify for Boston or the Olympics all combined. Therefore, I did it and overcame this fear. So far, I have gone to a couple karaoke bars and did a couple songs. Think I better go to another bar and sing again.

Joe: Great to see that blue. Best to you and the guys on the second Chickenfoot album. Keep up the excellent work.

DavidFord: Welcome to the site.

To Everyone: I'm sorry it's been so long since I last posted. I hope you all are well. I do read the posts from time to time from you all. Hit me up via email or on Facebook if you like.

Oh, and I missed the Grammys but I heard a lot on who won and who performed. Disappointed RUSH didn't win in their category. I predicted Lady Antebellum was going to be the big winner and their song, "Need You Now." It has been playing on almost every radio station here in Fort Wayne.

Talk to you later peeps, got some running/conditioning to do. Keep in touch. \m/ \m/

Grant ~The Runner~

Edited Tue Feb 15 '11 10:44 am

Tue Feb 15 '11 10:36:31 am Set this message as last read

Wooleyman
John Wooley
Middleburg, Florida
US
Plays: Guitar
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The Grammys do suck its true..ever since Metallica got passed over years ago..for best metal tune of the year in favor of Jethro Tull..?? I mean Tull is cool...but hello..? they aren't not metal next to Metallica at all..they were "THE" metal band then..anyway..at least Jeff Beck won a few right..?
Tue Feb 15 '11 10:37:57 am Set this message as last read

Islandsoundz

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I wanna know what everyone thinks of this....

I live in a country that does not really promote rock much less instrumental rock but I absolutely love it....This being said, I have been trying to learn how to play the guitar for almost 3 - 4 years now and NO ONE here teaches anything other than the very very basic. I know that Joe Satriani use to teach guitar and I thought it would be so nice to have an instructional DVD series from Joe Satriani that teaches the very basics to the point where the learner has all he needs to take his playing to another level on his own and develop his own sound. Most DVDs out there are not that good and they leave alot of unanswered questions. This DVD series can be as much as 5 or so DVDs worth of instruction that are designed to give learner all of the practice tools they need and a basic introduction to music theory....any thoughts?

Tue Feb 15 '11 1:01:12 pm Set this message as last read

Two Shay

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Donkey - Mebbe the ones to which line one applies.
Tue Feb 15 '11 1:04:57 pm Set this message as last read

wolf2

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It,s sort of cute when it does that hey !,the rambo thing it,s my milliatry safety the u.s.army just beeped me man even though that is all true right normaly I would not converse about it.The u.s.army sometimes turns the mx2125 can-am of mine on lets just turn on johns bike but the beeps now mean I could have medical problems .You see sometimes i get like 45,000 x the size like in some of my movies but now my heart haveing ahard time handleing it i think dont know but the beeps usaly means im okay or I need a hospiatl is what I think will see probably need medical attention of somekind when the u.s.army beeps its for a reason thats bennefical too methey use sometimes the armature machine on my 125 man to bring back rambo hey man or too find me so they can beep me whatevr it is were good anyways not too much going on here just really dehydrated masive water drinking and eating from rideing anyways later wolf2.
Tue Feb 15 '11 1:21:46 pm Set this message as last read

Master Yoda
Neil Morgan
York, North Yorkshire
England
Plays: Guitar (30 years)
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Good to know about the upcoming Vai album

Not sure if this is still the done thing, but...

... GUTHRIE GOVAN FOR G3! Listened to his album again the other day. What a player!

Tue Feb 15 '11 2:25:10 pm Set this message as last read

wolf2

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...The brake`s I had made for the mx2 man make me terribley sick no word of a lie for week,s after a ride you cant remeber he ride until next time you head out theirs something going on somehow man .My brain seems to somehow get real weird different feelings like a crazy man I mean real ill buddy this is after rideing it with the brake shoes I had made then after couple weeks you hear these beep,s man and your back to normal.Like what is it!? and why does the 125 do that? you know? there was no choice in the matter could no by new factory or even aftermarket brakes for it anymore it,was inoperable!. weird hey normally I would have went through 8 sets of rear shoes these semi metallic ones I had made havent even needed to be adjusted dont know and um my u.s.army is really activated right now to be used for my benefit and police control anyways will talk to you later wolf2.
Tue Feb 15 '11 3:00:11 pm Set this message as last read

Blue_Moon
Alan McKenna
Dublin
Ireland
Plays: Guitar (23 years)
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Govan would actually be an excellent candidate for g3 actually, im down with that
Tue Feb 15 '11 4:03:51 pm Set this message as last read

oxley11

Hackensack, NJ
United States
Plays: Guitar (15 years)
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@woodman300- thank you for answer my questions. That's is basically how I feel about, but I may need some more people to strengthen my point.

Although, I also agree with civgeek if he has one of those iPods that doesn't have the screen and is constantly on shuffle. Then that is one of those situations where you have to debate the facts.

So if anybody would like to answer, don't be afraid to express your OPINION.

Edited Tue Feb 15 '11 5:16 pm

Tue Feb 15 '11 4:15:25 pm Set this message as last read

wolf2

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...Hey,those are your real posts ! for that day! hey i been around couldnt you hear the krause wolf2.
Tue Feb 15 '11 4:22:54 pm Set this message as last read

wolf2

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....Just listen to me man ,the krause pipe does really make you extremely fatal man it transforms your brain into the brain of the krause cat whic is simiar to a saber tooth tiger .There illegal now they dont make them anymore they were used for raceing and protections and devlopment protection of the owner of the course #1 man You would not belive how deadly I am right now! anyways I may have big problems here at my place my mom has problems with her feet hey she has to use a scooter in good weather today she can barely limp along man in the house right she figures this time next year she wont be able to walk at all and need a wheelchair ma.I can not take care of her like that me consatantly lone outings and missions so I told her too look for a seniors home just as i was comeing in here to talk to you she,said I dont want to go to ahome wolfie I will miss you and then theres no krause peipe thing for me! no shit man! hey the stuff after the krause pipes been on is shes a fatal producer wolf2.
Tue Feb 15 '11 4:35:51 pm Set this message as last read

Mackai Daddy

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I knew I would make somebody mad by saying arcade fire is a shitty band. I have only seen them perform live on tv(2 songs on SNL and 2 at the grammys)but the sound of the 10 or 12 people they have on stage is-----less than the sum of its parts(to quote michelle, i think?) I'm not some old guy who doesn't like new music, I'm 33 and like all styles and kinds of music. I guess i have a biased ear because i have seen greats like Joe, Steve Vai, and other great live performers on stage since i was a teen. Anyway, by this time i have a couple of shots of kettle one in me and hate to ramble on with a buzz. Much thanks to all :D
Tue Feb 15 '11 6:07:01 pm Set this message as last read

Blue_Moon
Alan McKenna
Dublin
Ireland
Plays: Guitar (23 years)
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Never really minded em, got some friends that like em, but i never got into them myself
Tue Feb 15 '11 7:33:19 pm Set this message as last read

WhammyFreak

Plays: Keyboards (17 years)
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Mackai Daddy - Just so you know, there's no hard feelings. I was not mad at you or anyone when I posted my message. I have just felt for some time that Arcade Fire is one of the best new bands to come out. I don't personally listen to them a lot, but my brother is a crazy fan of them and put them on the house speakers all the time, and my dad loves'em and he's 55!

Anyway, no hard feelings man, I love Joe and I would love to see him get some kind of big award or something for an awesome career. Maybe in time it will come...who knows.

WhammyFreak

Tue Feb 15 '11 10:16:49 pm Set this message as last read

Two Shay

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Grammys - Maynard Keenan (Tool singer) nailed it for me. "I think the Grammys are nothing more than some gigantic promotional machine for the music industry. They cater to a low intellect and they feed the masses. They don't honor the arts or the artist for what he created. It's the music business celebrating itself. That's basically what it's all about."

Edited Wed Feb 16 '11 3:02 am
Wed Feb 16 '11 2:58:15 am Set this message as last read

michelle

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Silk Almond Milk with Cheerios. Not bad. Not bad at all.

Mornin' peeps!

Wed Feb 16 '11 3:35:39 am Set this message as last read
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