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michelle

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Is there ANYWHERE in my post where i stated I hate the rich? Anywhere??

I said I don't begrudge anyone for having money. THAT is what I said. To BUY an election with Super Pac money is bullshit, and that is what is happening. Money talks - and if you even try to tell me it doesn't, then you know nothing about how America has been working since day one! Super Pacs should be done away with on both sides! The presidency should be won by debates and speeches, not hate filled commercials and mailings full of flat out lies and half truths by whoever has the most money to saturate the airwaves. That goes for BOTH sides!

People have been voting the same way for years. Stuffing ballot boxes is a flat out bogus lie spread by haters and fear mongers to advance their party. Blame the Mexicans! Blame that blacks! How about blaming the Ftards who are spreading racist lies to scared white folk with their fear campaigns! Was the "hearing" voter fraud BALLOT STUFFING AFTER HOURS ever documented in police records? Ever documented by a newspaper whereas names of people were stated? Ever documented in any voter registration district news? Was there EVER any absolute truth to what you HEARD. probably not because it's the hate and LIES that are being spread in the FEAR TACTICS that they are using to scare the other side!

And how dare you say everyone with a fake ID and SS# is a f'n Democrat and will vote for Obama? How dare you! WHY? Are they all black? Latino? On government assistance? Guess what? How many white UPPER class R. kids get a fake ID? NONE? How many white R. people steal SS#'s? Do you also know which side they will vote for?? If you're stealing SS# and making fake ID's, are you really going to be stupid enough to even care to vote and have your name filed with the government? THAT'S NOT HOW CRIMINALS WORK! It's a FEAR TACTIC!!

Believe it or not...and this might be a secret, but their are black and Latino republicans out there. Not all of them are low life voters who only vote for a person because of the color of his skin and the advancement of their people, as has been the rhetoric of the other party.

You can't run for a political office without money. The sad part is, the money shouldn't be used for spreading hate, fear, and blatant lies. It should be used to promote the candidate on whatever they plan on doing for our country! It should be used to promote their beliefs and ideas to make this a better world, and I mean the entire planet! You can't be the POTUS if you know squat about foreign affairs and tell other countries "Hey, you're on your own! F off! We're the big bad USA and we're the best!" Um yeah, sometimes the best at being the worst!

Wed Sep 19 '12 8:55:58 pm Set this message as last read

brownbow1955
dave schock
manheim, pa
us
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OK, politics, Yer in my wheelhouse now.

Damn right the Rep's are trying to block the POTUS efforts, Thank God.

That piece of garbage had two years of a Dem. House and Senate and got EVERYTHING passed that he wanted. All of his Progressive/Socialist agenda.

Wanna see Romney's tax returns? I WANT TO SEE ALL OF THE FAST AND FURIOUS DOCUMENTS that the Pretender and Thief is hiding under presidential privelege. ....tax returns, a diversion from the real criminal activity.

POTUS grew up in Indonesia, a Communist country. Mom and dad, Communists. Later grew up in Hawaii, a state that most people don't know, the natives do not like the US for taking over their island. BHO hates this country.

BHO IS A CARD CARRYING MEMBER of "the New Party", a euphemism for "Socialist". Look it up. He wants redistibution of wealth, and once said something like "Whoever decided that greed was a virtue" (paraphrase)? I want to know who decided that taking what does not belong to you is a virtue.

He has stated that the Constitution is a flawed document. Oh yeah? His first and biggest lie as POTUS was "I promise to protect and defend the Constitution of the US". He's been pissing on it ever since he got in.

He is a Communist, a criminal, a traitor, and an enemy of our nation.

That Obama sticker on back of your car might as well say, "I'M STUPID".

Wed Sep 19 '12 10:01:32 pm Set this message as last read

woodman300
Dave
CA
Plays: Guitar (2024 years)
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If you're stealing SS# and making fake ID's, are you really going to be stupid enough to even care to vote and have your name filed with the government? THAT'S NOT HOW CRIMINALS WORK! It's a FEAR TACTIC!!

they're fake ids. they don't use a real name. and yes i think some illegal aliens do vote. there was a local congressional race a few years back, don't remember exactly when but there was a town hall type meeting and the democrat running for re-election was asking for the crowd to vote for her on tuesday. one person said she couldn't vote because she didn't have 'papers'. the candidate said 'there are ways around that'. i remember that because it was taped and i heard it played. i really think that some people will commit voter fraud because they think the ends justify the means.

i don't think it is racist to expect that people who want to come here from other countries should follow the rules. it cost a lot of taxpayer money to educate their children, treat the ill, food stamps, transportation etc. way more than most of these people can possibly earn. i certainly don't want them to vote, because of course they will vote for the guy who will keep the services coming and not lift a finger to deport them. maybe you have to live here to understand the way it is.

as for whether you hate the rich, it just sounded like it to me from the tone of your post. i apologize if i was wrong. i agree with you that the money situation poisons the election system. i had an idea that we could ban all spending for the candidates and give them all the air time they would need for free. the airwaves belong to the people after all. you should check out those links i posted before. i think you will see that obama outraised and out spent the others by a wide margin.

Wed Sep 19 '12 10:34:39 pm Set this message as last read

Two Shay

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Come on in htuC, it's getting nice and warm here.
Thu Sep 20 '12 2:24:29 am Set this message as last read

MaRcO7
Marco
Roma,
Italy
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hi JOE!news by the new album?
Thu Sep 20 '12 9:11:25 am Set this message as last read

Wooleyman
John Wooley
Middleburg, Florida
US
Plays: Guitar
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lets try this..I'm John Wooley and I approve this message..Joe Satriani for president..a guitar in every house and a chickenfoot in every pot..!! furthermore,Mitt Romney can "F" off sideways..!! because to suggest people that rely on disability benefits or other federal programs are lazy..is political suicide..I dont see how he can spin his way around what he said..I'm sure he'll try though..I have had Cerebral Palsy since birth and conquered plenty in my years trust me,I have a Bachelor of Arts in Advertising and an Associate of Science in Broadcasting..so I work and pay taxes..but there are times when I have needed benefits to help get me through certain times,for a myriad of reasons..and know plently of other people who lead challenging lives..and depend on the help they receive..they are anything but lazy trust me..my mother depended on benefits for her leukemia meds..and sometimes after her chemo she went to work..!!! does that sound lazy to you..?? It's a lesson that NO ONE should make blanket statments about a certain segment of people..no matter what..Romney thought he wasn't heard and he got busted..and now he's backtracking,cuz he frickin knows he alienated scores of people with those statements..it shows you what the real truth is..when the flashbulbs stop,and the phony smiles are over..the doors close..they say what they really think..anyway to get you to punch the ballot for them..bought and paid for puppets,who dance to whichever way the spin and rhetoric requires..thats just how I see it..oh yeah looking forward to Paul Gilbert's new stuff..out in US 3rd week of October yeah boy..!

Edited Thu Sep 20 '12 10:10 am
Thu Sep 20 '12 10:07:45 am Set this message as last read

michelle

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brownbow, thank you for being the perfect example of EXACTLY the hate/fear monger I was talking about in my previous post! Brilliant! Also love the way you have to add the H for Hussein when you speak about the POTUS to make him scary and attempt to remind every one that somehow everyone with the name Hussein is a crazy lunatic terrorist tyrant. That was an awesome add right there. The rest of your post doesn't even deserve a response.

woodman, "one person said she couldn't vote because she didn't have 'papers'. the candidate said 'there are ways around that'. i remember that because it was taped and i heard it played."

Did you hear her say there are ILLEGAL ways around that, because that's not what I saw you write? Do you think maybe she might have instructed her on some other form of ID or paperwork to make it allowable for her to vote? It sounds like you heard what you wanted to hear. It's pretty hilarious how ONLY Democrats are alleged vote stealers and ballot stuffers low life bottom feeders using government money to live because they're to lazy to fend for themselves.

Is it some sort of hushed and hidden fact that every senior citizen, disabled person, military veteran, anyone who's ever received help after a natural disaster, got energy assistance, got a school grant, needed living assistance, collected a social security check, got an education or training after job loss, OR TOOK OUT A LOAN is LIVING OFF THE GOVERNMENT!

Or...is it just those nasty welfare recipients who are stuck in the system because the only minimum wage jobs they qualify for wouldn't even pay for daycare and bus fair, let alone give them any money to live on when it was all said and done.

Either way, they all must be Democrats, because Democrats all live off the government and do nothing to help themselves, right?

Sure, some people abuse the system. Before Obama came in to office, I heard so many stories about people getting college money from the gov't., going to 2 or 3 classes, never even buying a book, then dropping the class and using all the money they took from the government for their own personal use, and NEVER having to pay it back! OBAMA STOPPED THAT! If you drop the class, you have to pay all the money back where before it was "free money." My daughter is 23 and has $25,000 in college dept., and that's not counting the college debt. my husband and I are responsible for for both our kids. WHY? Because the middle class people, who stay married, own a home, and save a bit of money and try to do everything the right way are the ones getting screwed! If you think it doesn't piss me off that there are people abusing the system, and people who need the system but can't get help, you're off your rocker!

The kind of rich people I despise are the Romney and Trump type with the boys club attitude. Their self centered greed and pompous arrogance oozes out of every pore. If you have less than they do, you're pathetic and useless. I have no tolerance for that. In fact, they are the ones who might have it all when you look at their resume and bank accounts, but when when you look into their soul, there's a black hole.

I don't want that running my government.

Mr Wooley, very well said!

Priceless!

Food stamps and welfare are okay if I need it until I get back on my feet, but if you need it, you're a lazy bum. LOL! Um..okay??



Edited Thu Sep 20 '12 10:58 am

Thu Sep 20 '12 10:46:13 am Set this message as last read

wolf2

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...Hello man im zonked just listen big error man after the husqvarna man i took the ATK out the 406 theirs way too much power man im Zonked with a capital Z man their air cooled hey joe so right now it,s sort of chilly here so their running at peak performance.so you can just imagine man a 406 cubic centimeter 2 cycle engine in a dirtbike I just cam einto town for a couple things man sugar etc and pepppers for spagetthi sauce i bought a couple of enegry drinks italian ones cheetah their callled d` angelo brands make them here in canda cafffeine free these are so i drank one drink one more on my way home i keep saveing money hey man like i dont need anything really like evrything of mine runs and my car even my 85 z28 i even have a brand new kit for it years ago i knew i dint want to drive man you here men i had big plans teamm AAEN performance for my formula mx in the winetr and train and crossa train all summmer but i did buy an camaro z28 indy kit off red stallion red stallion has trucks that go around hey like it,s mint and runs beutiful but it needs new brake s and new brak caplipers drunms on the back discksa on the front i bought total complete brakes for front and backs the brakes and their actuarto components right all new ignition parts for a tune up etc new wipers everything the kit was 1100 dollars if I was to get a pacemaker man sort of reallity would be that i would have to drive right now i dont i use my off road motor bikes and my ski-doo but from what i gather you can not run them with a pacemaker yo need autmobile ignitio their different like i knew all of this 20 years ago well 15 before all my diagnosis so i could just ake the z28 to john at the shell have jhim put the kit on and drive right it may be 300 dolllars or something labour or just by a small car the thing is is cars get me in trouble like the police never bother me with my bike im off road either on my own property or be taken care of by the ministry of natural resources but the z28 can go like with a phone calli save all my money hey not to move out i could mov e out but ten no rideing initailly i was saveing for anew atk or husqvrana believe this man if you can all of my stuff could very well run for the rest of my life man no lie the ey might wear out what after 30 or 40 years im gonna try to make it to 40 rideing and staying in good shape um thats that i may look into husqvaran to see if they have anything that can be used with a pacemaker more inquiry needed anyways drink my cheetah energ drink in town have a cigartte pedal a mile and ahalf home later wolf2.
Thu Sep 20 '12 10:50:37 am Set this message as last read

Peace Lily
Debora Aylett
Irrigon, Oregon
United states
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This thoroughly covers my feelings on the subject

Chaos on Bull-sh*T Mountain

Thu Sep 20 '12 5:49:46 pm Set this message as last read

michelle

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Peace, i saw that when it aired and i was thinking how do people NOT see this bullshit being twisted around? It literally comes out of his mouth, we hear what he says, but somehow what he says from his own mouth turns into people who seem to be only hearing every third word on a cell phone with bad reception and making up their own story. You expect this kind of behavior from people living at Asshole Cove, but not Bullshit Mountain!!

"It's like Romney Jazz - it's the words you don't hear!" LMAO!!

Thu Sep 20 '12 6:24:20 pm Set this message as last read

brownbow1955
dave schock
manheim, pa
us
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michelle,

FYI, If I was talking about ANY POTUS I would have used JFK, LBJ, RMN,GHWB, WJC, GWB. It would seem I can thank you for being the typical Liberal who can twist and take offense to anything that is said. H IS his middle initial, duh. Mmm...Walker, scary name.

As far as not wanting to respond to the rest, that is typical liberal too. It's facts: but I wouldn't want to confuse you with them. Go ahead, check on it. You won't like what you find, because the man you defend IS a Marxist, by his own words.

He has surrounded himself with self proclaimed Marxists in the many Czars he has appointed and advisors. Van Jones, Valerie Jarrett, David Axelrod...it's an exhausting list.

If you dare, look up a man named Frank Marshall Davis. He would be BHO's mentor as a young man. This guy was on the FBI's (is Bureau a dirty word?) watch list in case of a war with Russia.

It's not hate or fear mongering. I hate what the man is, not necessarily him, He was brought up that way and doesn't get what it means to grow up "American". If I am stating fact, it's not fear mongering. It's just a hope to enlighten those who swallow the lies that he and his regime feed us.

You may not like what I say, but I DO KNOW what I'm talking about. I have heard the words come from HIS mouth, not just some right winger talk show host. I weigh, I investigate. This guy is a bad dude.

And now for something completely different. Voter ID. There IS NO reasonable argument against it. Regardless of any evidence or lack thereof, of voter fraud, we have a one man one vote system. In this day and age of technology, cheating is easy. Why not have safeguards? Our electoral system has been the envy of the world. Let's protect it. The ONLY reason to fight ID's is to protect the efforts of those who would cheat. It is really that simple.

You need a photo ID to get a credit card, a fishing license, cash a check or any of a myriad of other things. Nobody's crying discrimination over that. So get over it. Show your ID, cast your vote, and be glad that there might be a safeguard to our system, and that your vote might actually count, once.

By the way, no one ever accused me of being tactful.

Thu Sep 20 '12 7:23:48 pm Set this message as last read

brownbow1955
dave schock
manheim, pa
us
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PS Michelle,

Hate? I believe I see you used the words, kind of people "I despise", when speaking of Romney and Trump.

Ever heard the one about glass houses and throwing stones?

Thu Sep 20 '12 7:41:52 pm Set this message as last read

michelle

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brownbow, the word tactful wasn't even in the running.

You're pretty much off the charts, so I'll just let you be with yourself. I feel you are the dangerous type, and when pushed could be a loose cannon. Your ideals are so...just...WTF that my head would explode if i tried to even banter back and forth. I would go point for point with you, but that's not possible with your type of right wing brainwashing. Obviously we are on polar opposite ends of the spectrum, and I will no longer have any discussions with you about anything. I have nothing more to say to you. Have a lovely evening.

Gotta go. WJC - aka Bill Clinton is on Jon Stewart, and as a Liberal, I'm compelled to be in front of the television!

peace out home slice!

and yes, there are way more people I despise than Romney and Trump, but I do not put all rich folk under one blanket as you claimed i did. I could back track like you did and say "Oh, I don't hate the man, I hate his behavior". LOL!



Edited Thu Sep 20 '12 8:25 pm

Thu Sep 20 '12 8:21:56 pm Set this message as last read

woodman300
Dave
CA
Plays: Guitar (2024 years)
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Did you hear her say there are ILLEGAL ways around that, because that's not what I saw you write? Do you think maybe she might have instructed her on some other form of ID or paperwork to make it allowable for her to vote? It sounds like you heard what you wanted to hear. It's pretty hilarious how ONLY Democrats are alleged vote stealers and ballot stuffers low life bottom feeders using government money to live because they're to lazy to fend for themselves.

it was pretty obvious, if you heard it. she was instructing an illegal alien how vote. as far as stuffing, you may remember jfk and the alleged voter fraud in illinois. isn't that where bho used to live? hmm. isn't that where the governor tried to sell bho's vacated senate seat? i said before, i think democrats (read liberals) have no problem breaking the rules because they think they are doing the right thing. its because so many people out there think of republicans as evil. no problem breaking the rules because you have t stop the evil republicans before they take away you free stuff. i can't see how one rich conservative is worse than one rich liberal. liberals want to take from people who earn a living and give it to people who don't. they certainly don't want the poor to not be poor because without them, they can't win the election. bho is essentially buying votes with our tax money. that should piss you off.

all we want is for the people we elect to follow the law. the constitution limits the power of government greatly by design. if you actually read the document, you will find that most of the govt programs we have now are not allowed.

for the record, i am not apposed to Americans availing themselves of programs they are entitled to, but am apposed to the millions who were not invited here and take the free stuff. think of the United States as your house. the border is your front door that you left open. some guy just walked into your house uninvited. he stole your books to get educated, he took your food and ate it, he took your medicine. now you have to borrow 16 trillion dollars to get food medicine and books for your kids.

my motto for elections from now on is vote American. and for those in california, 'if its Brown, flush it down'

by the way 'The kind of rich people I despise' despise is another word for hate.

Edited Thu Sep 20 '12 10:05 pm

Thu Sep 20 '12 10:02:20 pm Set this message as last read

woodman300
Dave
CA
Plays: Guitar (2024 years)
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PS Michelle,

Hate? I believe I see you used the words, kind of people "I despise", when speaking of Romney and Trump.

Ever heard the one about glass houses and throwing stones?

well said,' haters gonna hate'...

Thu Sep 20 '12 10:07:52 pm Set this message as last read

Wooleyman
John Wooley
Middleburg, Florida
US
Plays: Guitar
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and now back to our regularly scheduled programing..forget the election shit for a minute and remember no matter what..all americans are free to say and go..and be what we choose..and we are free to ROCK OUT!! and praise god this is not Cuba or something..lol edit: hey was the crowd cheering at the waitress with beers or Joe..?? YOU DECIDE..heehee..JOE..holler at us bro..we miss you here..!

Edited Fri Sep 21 '12 3:27 am
Fri Sep 21 '12 3:23:04 am Set this message as last read

brownbow1955
dave schock
manheim, pa
us
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How to confuse a liberal:

Use facts and logic.

If they don't like what you say, attack with empty BS.

I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.

Fri Sep 21 '12 5:36:39 am Set this message as last read

jblaze1

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Tisk tisk people. There are three things you never try to argue with. 1) Religion 2) Politics 3) Michelle....Religion is why there will never be peace in the world...Politics is why there will never be peace in the U.S..let alone the world....and Michelle will just bitchslap you into the next millenium.So don't even go there..lol.
Fri Sep 21 '12 7:52:26 am Set this message as last read

D_O_M

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JUST REMEMBER: “Liberalism Is a Mental Disorder”
Fri Sep 21 '12 9:44:15 am Set this message as last read

Peace Lily
Debora Aylett
Irrigon, Oregon
United states
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I'll leave ya all to your discussion ....

gonna go on a little coast trip with my daughters and kiddo's. Gonna be fun got my JOE tunes packed ..ready to go . NO INTERNET for 3 days..... :-)

Fri Sep 21 '12 10:22:24 am Set this message as last read

michelle

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Peace, have a great trip! see you on the flip side!

jbalze, it's a joke. Bullshit Mountain contains just that - a lot of bullshit. This entire conversation started with a video of Romney saying he doesn't care about almost half of the American population, and somehow that's okay with a lot of people, and that's really sad. Imagine how much he'll care about our foreign relations if he doesn't give a rats ass about his own people. When politicians running for v.p. and president give speeches at the RNC, and even the conservative reporters are nervously saying the fact checkers are going to have a field day with all the erroneous information in it - well that pretty much says it all. It is what it is. Bullshit Mountain.

Let's dance!

Fri Sep 21 '12 3:50:42 pm Set this message as last read

brownbow1955
dave schock
manheim, pa
us
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Never said you hated all rich people.

But for those who despise Romney because he looks down his nose on those who have less...

His tax info came out today for 2011:

approx. 14M income approx. 2M taxes paid/13-14% approx. 4M given to charity-almost 30%

Gave away 4 Million dollars!!! What a creep. Just doesn't give a damn about anybody, does he?

And yes, you liberals, he still has 8M left. It's HIS MONEY. Good for him. Whatever goods and services or investments he might make with it, creates work for someone,...duh.

I don't agree with all of his stuff, but I don't agree with my wife either all the time, but overall...

He's not a Communist.

Fri Sep 21 '12 7:34:50 pm Set this message as last read

michelle

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What is less well understood is which organizations Mitt Romney has given money to.

And in the last two years, at least, the answer appears to be primarily one organization: The Church of Jesus Christ Of Latter-Day Saints, more commonly known as the Mormon church.

Fri Sep 21 '12 8:46:13 pm Set this message as last read

Guitarman77897
Matt S
WI
United States
Plays: Guitar (21 years)
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The man has already written off half the country. Romney lost.
Fri Sep 21 '12 9:30:17 pm Set this message as last read

michelle

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Led Zeppelin tout concert film, but stay mum on future plans

That's a "must have" when it comes out in November!

Bring It On Home

Do you see what I see?



Edited Sat Sep 22 '12 7:08 am

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