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Richard Haier
Toronto, Ontario
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Guitarcake / Crushingday - Heh, I should throw a video of that chord on my stupid shred video clip site. Yeah it hurts a bit but it's not out of reach. I came up with it when I was playing a song with my Low E string dropped a whole step and the chord sounded cool. Then I realized I had to play a song in standard tuning. How else could I play the chord?
Sun Jun 22 '03 8:56:59 am Set this message as last read

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Richard Haier
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Haha, i'm surprised people actually care enough for the chord video. Ok i'll probably make it too. Remind me if it's been long and it's not up yet.
Sun Jun 22 '03 10:36:07 am Set this message as last read

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Richard Haier
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OCP - I would need a backing track from Christian for that. I don't wanna go over the backing for that song and record it. All the timing and the fact that I have no ability to make drums makes it crappier. I should wait for his backing track if he ever sends me one. The song is as fun as hell though.

MELODIC/DEATH METAL

Lamb of God, Soilwork, In Flames, OH YEAH

Sun Jun 22 '03 8:34:19 pm Set this message as last read

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Richard Haier
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Matt - Listening to the new melody. Now, I don't know if you realized this but this song sounds way too much like Joe Satriani - Home. The similarities are just too much. The melody is similar and even some of the chord root changes. The only thing different honestly, is the strumming pattern. I think it's a little too predictable/corny of a pattern though. You've done the rhythm before in Celestial love song. Actually aside from a slight tempo difference, the strumming pattern is almost exactly the same. Sorry man, reminds me way too much of songs already done.

I'm still waiting for you to complete "New Idea", the classical melody I always rave about.

Mon Jun 23 '03 9:16:56 am Set this message as last read

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Richard Haier
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Plum - Only a half hour lunch? That's crappy. How do you ever make it?

2 Jack Russels now?

Mon Jun 23 '03 10:52:52 am Set this message as last read

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Richard Haier
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greg m - Yup, Red Album.

Matt - Giving you the same honesty you would give me.

Plum - Aren't you scared of having 2? How's April on all of that?

Tue Jun 24 '03 10:11:20 am Set this message as last read

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Richard Haier
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Fusion5000 - You're bashing Paul's playing? Haven't you realized that he's been doing the instrumental guitar shred thing for a decade now and it's getting old? You are attempting to play now, what Paul was playing before Racer X even existed. Just because someone is sick of shred and won't play for the people who think neo classical shred is the "highest form of art". Shred is over and done with. If it's used anymore, it's not noticed.

Look at Christian Alsing, he uses shred techniques and his debut album is incredible but will a record company sign him? Who knows. One thing is for sure, he's truly venturing into a new guitar era, I suppose, some will argue, already set by Mattias IA Eklundh.

Matt - I would've totally jumped in on your side but I wasn't here on time. I understand you didn't pour your sweat and blood into creating "new_melody". Things do get a little ridiculous around here. I don't know what else to say other than, people's truer thought come out in times like these.

Invigor - We needed that, thanks man.

Edited Tue Jun 24 '03 8:48 pm

Tue Jun 24 '03 8:47:26 pm Set this message as last read

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Richard Haier
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OCP - Oh, aren't you a warm kind boy. Thanks for the honourable mention. Until I actually touch a guitar again, my name doesn't deserve to be mentioned with those 3.

Can someone please throw me some daily licks to practice so I actually touch a guitar again? I need something. From any style, anything. A new chord or chord voicing, a scale, scale pattern, or just a stupid shred lick, anything. . . Wouldn't you, like to teach a lick . . . to someone like me. . . please. . .

Edited Wed Jun 25 '03 8:21 pm

Wed Jun 25 '03 8:19:31 pm Set this message as last read

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Richard Haier
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Stu Clone - Thanks, i'll check it out.
Thu Jun 26 '03 7:24:17 am Set this message as last read

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Richard Haier
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Matt - I am really digging this rhythm track on "g test". The phrasing is brillant man. This is the best to date i've heard you. Now you sound more like a guy who has Joe as an influence rather than a guy who covers Joe note for note and sounds much like him.

The phrasing in the lead is like I have not heard you before. The rhythm is one of the best i've heard you write.

Great job, sounds very professional.

Sat Jun 28 '03 8:25:25 pm Set this message as last read

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Richard Haier
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Matt - Oh, heh, yeah the rhythm guitar work was quite a change from your normal progression writing. Well, like I said, I was impressed by the phrasing and could feel the melody, which is important when talking about leads.

WRITE SOME MORE

Sat Jun 28 '03 9:54:45 pm Set this message as last read

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Richard Haier
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Mr Nick - Python rocks.
Mon Jun 30 '03 6:26:19 pm Set this message as last read

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Richard Haier
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Fusion5000 - Can't think of any mindless 80's shred? You have GOT to be kidding me. 98% of all shredders from the 80's were mindless because that's all they had to be. It was the 80's and shred was new. Speaking of which, you contradicted yourself in your own post. Chris Impelliteri is a mindless shredder, like you said, guess which decade he's from... ... ... ... it was later than the 70's but earlier than the 90's
Mon Jun 30 '03 9:08:31 pm Set this message as last read

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Richard Haier
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Fusion - You know, if you like shred, fast playing, whatever, that's fine with everyone but do not try to make it something it isn't. You seem to not like Gilbert's new stuff but you seem to very much like his old stuff. Now if you call Racer X solos and 80's shred "not mindless", you're making it something it's not.

MAYBE the solo you posted wasn't tasteful, MAYBE??? Buddy, you're talking like it was borderline tasteful. That was so far beyond wanking, it makes the solo for Superheroes look like the solo for Rubina.

If you listen to Impelliteri for tasteful solos, ... I can't even finish the sentence.

On several occasions, guitarists from that decade came out and stated that now, they cannot believe the things they did back then. Look at Richie Kotzen. The later in his career, the less wank there was. It's got to the point where he doesn't play fast at all anymore.

If 98% is an off number, then you tell me 100 shredders from the 80's. We'll then figure out who's "tasteful".

Edited Tue Jul 1 '03 8:47 pm

Tue Jul 1 '03 8:44:39 pm Set this message as last read

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Richard Haier
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Fusion - No, he really is mindless. He plays the same 3 licks over and over again. Let's take a bass rhythm track, write a simple progression and play every single note of a scale over each note. What is special about that really?

It's just shred, playing many notes of a scale over a bass note. It doesn't go anywhere.

link: http://yngvaitriani.tripod.com - link for fast mindless playing

link: http://richardhaier.iuma.com - No fast playing at all, only musical ideas and demos not yet put into full songs.

Wed Jul 2 '03 9:33:43 pm Set this message as last read

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Richard Haier
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Narface - Yes! Cars dude, nice ones. Nissan is not so popular around here in the performance scene. It's all crappy 4 banger civics which are not fast and look like crap. Haha, i'm actually helping a buddy fix up his.

I love the picture of the Porsche 944 drifting the corner. Looks like a Volkswagen just behind it? Looks like a Cabrio?

...and the tail lights look better over there. In North America, kids buy "Euro" lights which look like crap to me. Clear light housing. Looks so bloody cheap to me.

My favourite car is the VW Corrado SLC (2.9L VR6) I'm sure you know the car, it is big in Asia. Stock, the car was doing 0-60mph in under 6.1 seconds. The hottest looking car I have ever seen. Or maybe I should say the hottest looking Sport Coupe ever.

Fusion - Ok ok you just admitted to liking Racer X solos and neo classical metal. I'm not going to continue this anymore.

Edited Thu Jul 3 '03 7:28 am

Thu Jul 3 '03 7:24:47 am Set this message as last read

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Richard Haier
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"...Then the technique is looked upon as a positive thing. So really, I only try to use the technician part of my playing when I think it's necessary to complete the vibe of the song and get the message to the audience. " -Joe Satriani
Thu Jul 3 '03 7:35:54 am Set this message as last read

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Richard Haier
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Fusion5000 - Jason Becker is amazing, absolutely amazing in most of his work. End of the Beggining, Air, Opus Pocus, Altitudes... etc...

Chris Impelliteri phrases NOTHING. No phrasing, none what so ever.

Do you know what phrasing means? because it doesn't not mean play a different group of notes fast at a different speed.

Who are you to say "appreciate good music"?

You can't listen to a guitarist unless they're playing 10,000 notes per second. "To phrase perfectly here, I took it down to 5000 notes per second."

I guess you've never heard Paul Gilbert's version of "Fly Me to the Moon"

It's absolutely breathtaking but you wouldn't like it because he doesn't phrase with anything over 3 notes per second.

http://www.tomleemusic.com/AV/event/p_gilbert/video.htm

Neo-classical players who wank: Micheal Romeo, Yngwie, MacAlpine, uh the guy from Reptilia- don't know the name, Micheal Angelo, Joe Stump, George Bellas, Gabriel Hidalgo, Vinnie Moore but only sometimes, the guy from Silent Force... David T. Chastain... i'm forgetting a lot of the neo classical guys, it's been a long time since I bothered with that stuff. Lots of bad lead phrases from these guys, if they cut out certain notes from their "phrasing" it might sound ok.

Phrasing and shred really don't go together. Why try to fit 10 notes into a lick when you could play 2 notes in a certain way.

Shred is really a mindless thing because it leaves out so many other cool techniques that can be done with a guitar. I mean, take Country bends for one, hold a note while you bend it, then grabbing another note and give it vibrato. Shred eliminates all this.

Matt - So your point is that music absolutely cannot be mindless to attract people.

Now i'm not going to get into arguiing vs rap, but let's just assume because we've all heard it, a rap song that is nothing, NOTHING but looped synth bass, snare, beat, that has absolutely no change or structure in it, with a guy talking rhythmically over it. Where is the mindfullness in this? Does it attract people? Obviously.

Thu Jul 3 '03 7:30:29 pm Set this message as last read

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Richard Haier
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Let's take an example of phrasing: Each note in a scale has a different feel in relation to it's root note. When you take a chord or bass note, each note has it's own feel over that note. Depending on which note you play over the chord or root note being played constructs your melody and feel of what you are trying to express. EXPRESS.

WHEN you take every single damn note in the scale and just rip over one chord, what are you expressing? WHERE IS THE PHRASING? WHERE, I WANT TO KNOW.

I mean, you still think that Impelliteri video had SOME phrasing in it, at least a little bit right?

I must be deaf or retarded because it was hilarious to me that he or anyone else thinks that was musical phrasing.

How original can you be playing all these notes really fast? How expressive could it possibly be?

Now let's take a look at Matt King. When he was picking up Satriani at 14 and 15 years old, the legato and arpeggios he picked up from Joe were impressive because he's this young kid learning this very fast, agressive technique on guitar, but in his music, he bases his songs on intricate chord progressions and single note melodies. Matt PHRASES his leads and in no way bases his music on technique or fast playing.

Thu Jul 3 '03 7:41:36 pm Set this message as last read

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Richard Haier
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Boyd - Crazy circles man. How could someone do that in the time of a few hours where no one was looking? And in the dark? And so perfectly?

OCP - Yeah the vibrato, I know what you mean. It doesn't bug me too much but he could be a little more versatile with it. One of my favourite vibratos is Joe's. The way he holds the note for just a little bit then slowly and gradually adds vibrato to it. It gradually comes in and increases. Love it, love it, love it.

Olly - Yup, Paul really is a great musician but he just doesn't show it. Actually, my favourite material of his is shred free music. Alligator Farm, Beautiful Girls are Insane, Flamengo, The Jig (Bach cover), Gilberto Concerto.

Paul Gilbert - Beautiful Girls are Insane - CHECK IT OUT

and again... http://www.tomleemusic.com/AV/event/p_gilbert/video.htm - Fly me to the Moon

Mick - Thanks. Haha, FTLOG, one of the most unsatisfying performances I gave. Aactually THE most unsatisfying. That video was a rehearsal, the rehearsals went better but even they sucked.

If I could fit my Hordes of Locusts video on that site, I would because that performance went well. Was December 2002.

Fri Jul 4 '03 7:03:36 am Set this message as last read

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Richard Haier
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Gammamute - Really great tune. Liked it a lot and i'm keeping it on my playlist.

Edited Fri Jul 4 '03 1:24 pm
Fri Jul 4 '03 1:24:08 pm Set this message as last read

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Richard Haier
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Mick87 - Thanks very much for checking it out. The video is far worth seeing because I really tried to make it a visual performance aswell. I can send through MSN or ICQ. Unfortunately, 35mb mpeg or somewhere close to that.

Do the Stu - In the dark? With what, just little flashlights and not be seen? To smash them down that flat? With just a board? And make circles that perfect. I'd have to see that done. I can't imagine a board smashing them down that flat, the perfectly shaped.

Pete - I'm listening to that Rock Rhythm mix. The extended version of 'justcause'.

Dude, this riffing is amazing. Oh man, and that solo, I can't believe how you progressed since your older songs. Technically that is. This is so amazing man. I'm now listening to the slowing legato part ... and the picking just came in.

This is amazing song man. Now I know why you were so excited about it.

How did you get this good since last year. Tell me everything you learned and how you went about learning it so I can learn it too.

...oh wait I know, i'll learn this song by ear. That'll teach me something.

Edited Sat Jul 5 '03 6:40 am

Sat Jul 5 '03 6:34:29 am Set this message as last read

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Richard Haier
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Mick87 - Thanks very much for checking it out. The video is far worth seeing because I really tried to make it a visual performance aswell. I can send through MSN or ICQ. Unfortunately, 35mb mpeg or somewhere close to that.

Do the Stu - In the dark? With what, just little flashlights and not be seen? To smash them down that flat? With just a board? And make circles that perfect. I'd have to see that done. I can't imagine a board smashing them down that flat, the perfectly shaped.

Sharif - How? At night? With what vision? These people doing this aren't so technologically advanced that they are the ones launching the missles or flying planes.

Sat Jul 5 '03 2:49:03 pm Set this message as last read

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Richard Haier
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Fusion - Holy f### buddy, yeah I made that site to show people how tasteful my playing is. They're fast licks I came up with. I put them on the net. Therefore, I know nothing about playing fast.

Did you think there was a competition and I was competing for a medal or something?

Have you even been listening to my arguments? I'm saying, shred is mindless and defeats emotion in many cases.

You're saying my shred was mindless. GEEEEEE, I wonder why. I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that it was shred? Patterns of 6 notes, ascend, repeat. ... to no backing track. I wonder if I was playing licks just for the hell of playing licks and not trying to be the greatest player of all time, yeah, kinda like you.

You didn't by any chance notice that in song demos I come up with, I don't play fast at all, did you? Do you realize how off the edge the are you are now? You're trying to continue an argument I haven't even started.

I applaud you, oh great SIMON MANZER, because when you speak, everyone knows you know what you're talking about.

Sat Jul 5 '03 8:15:51 pm Set this message as last read

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Richard Haier
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Austin / Sharif / Boyd - Alright, you've convinced me.

Sharif - Haven't touched guitar. Nearly at all. But thanks for asking. My hand is fine to play, just no interest in it.

Pete - I need the interest to play again. I hate the sound of myself playing, so that just totally kills it.

Sun Jul 6 '03 7:23:17 am Set this message as last read
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