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The Language Of Music

Musical notes are strung together in the same patterns as words in a piece of literature. Full paper

Fast cars could be tuned by evolution

Robert Fripp played the first time I saw Joe in concert

it may not be the type of music the G3 crowd expects, but neither was Adrian Legg, who I read reports was also booed by some fans (go figure!)

my original point (subsequently obscured by my comments regarding what I will or won't _personally_ say TO JOE about the 3rd G's) is that ALL of Joe's guests for G3 (except Vai) have gotten negative press from a sub-section of Joe's fans ~ I suppose this is to be expected, when John-Doe-Fan expects one thing and gets something else ~ "too loud"; "not good enough"; "too subdued"; "not worthy of sharing the same stage"; "doesn't fit" etc ~ I'm simply sharing a historical background I've noticed over the years ~

I'm encouraged by the positive comments I've read, and I hope fans will be respectful, even if their comments are negative ~

I disapprove of booing, but hey, that's just me

...peace,all...

Hey DaoiX ~ loved that story, man! makes sense Joe would be interested in books on Led Zep ~ first record he ever bought was "Communication Breakdown"

Zenfish ~ well YEEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHH~!!!

The nameless is the beginning of heaven and earth. The named is the mother of ten thousand things.

...peace&Light...

~faye

long live the song

and the song inside the song

the words inside the soul of songs

the soul inside the song of streams

the streams to feed the singing trees

the trees that feed the song of flight

the flight of songs that reach the stars

the stars inside the soul of space

the space that bears the song inside

long live the song

Joeman,Cthulubert (ROFL) ~ JBlaze is offering to guard Joe's guitars from thieves

Edit: that was typo, honest! LOL

cheers,

Cthulubert ~ ROFL!!! touche on all points ... except the Last One of course

just kidding man

Delphino ~ we're here for ya, buddy! the best you can do is eDuCaTe them with your project ~ when they hear Joe, they'll change their minds, don't you think?

when you gonna post more pix of your cats? I loved your descriptions of them, btw ...pax,dude...

Hi to Zenfish :)

good day to everyone in SatchLand~!

"9th" studio album doesn't include the original EP or Dreaming #11, as these are not an entire "album" but excluding "EOC" is just WRONG ~ as pointed out, this is Joe's "studio"

Time Machine contains previously unreleased Studio work

to date, there has been only one G3 without Vai: 1998 European tour

everyone enjoy your weekend!

"I'll rub this cat on your face" ~ Lmao!

TASTEY~! girl, that was wicked funny! everyone at my work thinks so, too! Thanks :)

French fries were invented in America, and called "French" because they were cut "julienne" style (long, thin strips) ~ so don't say I never "gave" you anything~! heheheh

Zenfish ~ hi :) ~ long time me no post ~ so sue me, already (just kidding, man) ~ I ~LoVedD~ the anatomy of Rock ~ JDM is really OUT THERE ~ thanks for sharing that ~ I'm very happy to hear of your upcoming poetic interpretation gig ~ best wishes for that! aWeSoMe, man!

Noppa ~ to realize your own good fortune is a blessing in the here and now ~ good for you ~ enjoy the rest of your vacation!

Hi to all the friends I know, and hi to all the friends who don't know me ~ for those on US soil, have a safe and wonderful holiday ~ everyone else, good weekend and LISTEN TO LOTS OF SATCH~!

~Hi,Joe~

"Cannoli" oil for G3~! ROFL~!

Greetings, Satchland~!

Finally, a chance to post~!

Zenfish ~ thanks for remembering me :)

I have some questions for you and anyone here on T2J about progressive music, and SBM. Without meaning to sound obtuse, I would like to further refine the definition of progressive, by looking at the following questions and providing examples from Joe's work:

o can a 12-bar ever be considered progressive?
o is a non-traditional time-signature always considered de facto progressive?
o can progressive be defined (in part) by non-standard harmonic structures, alternate tunings, dissonant chords, or preponderance of dissonance?

Lastly, would you go through SBM track-by-track and tell me what specifically you find progressive about each song? I'm truly curious.

Here is my first-draft (totally from memory, I"m at work) list of songs by Joe I think sound "progressive":

Flavor Crystal 7
Trundrumablind
With Jupiter in Mind
Cool #9
Luminous Flesh Giants
Killer Bee Bop
Echo
The Enigmatic
Memories

so, do I win something? LoL :-)

Hi to everyone

~faye

...Austin… thanks for your input ~ I agree this stuff is hard to define, that's why I ask for specific examples ~ I disagree about the 12-bar, but if you run across an example you can point to, speak up ~ I would also disagree about song lengths ~ would you call "Searching" progressive? ~ I did forget Woodstock Jam, but it's almost a no-brainer that anything atonal is progressive (like, WAY TOO progressive for me! LOL) ~ a lot of what I've heard of Vai's music could be called progressive

can you define "bluesy"? There's the traditional 12-bar, then there's the blues scale ~ what else? I suspect it's the kind of thing where "I know it when I hear it", am I right?

more questions for the ages:

What is Art?

What is Truth?

How can a song BE (or be called) "progressive" if it doesn't SOUND "progressive"?

…peace,everyone...

Hi Zenfish :) ~ this is an intellectual discussion ~ we start by a definition of terms ~ you described progressive in words, so I'm trying to compare my understanding with your words, and would like to hear your words linked up to examples ~ in this way we gradually understand each other's point of view, since the subject is so slippery and subjective

besides, you brought it up *friendly smile*

I'm interested in whatever anyone on T2J has to say about progressive music ~ I don't think of Joe as progressive, even though every album except ITLIS has had at least one song that makes me "stretch" ~ I consider this a huge clue those songs might fall into the progressive category

.....+HaPpY bIrThDaY JoE+.....

may the infinite possibilities of your daily life continue to inspire your art

and may your art continue to bless the ears on this lonely planet for many years to come

*blissful smiles*

your fan forever,

Hi Joe,

sorry to bring this up on your happiest of birthday's day, but I'm a wee bit frustrated...

Last time you had a listening parting for SBM, I had a terrible time getting a decent stream on my home computer (it's a dinosaur, and I'm on dial-up) ~ I finally abandoned the attempt, because Quicktime and my computer just didn't get along.

With your latest listening party, I was hoping to stream from my work where I have a fast connection ~ thing is, I work for a very conservative company and I can't just download software as I please ~ so I'm stuck once again with not being able to participate because you're only streaming thru Quicktime

Guess I'll have to wait until someone on the UnList rips it ~ I never did get to listen to all your song introductions for SBM ~ phoo

*sad face*

still your fan forever,

SCARY DRYER SHEETS FOR G3!!!

Michelle ~ funniest s#!t every! ~ROFL~

Greetings, Earthlings! Hello, SatchFriends!

JMDS ~ I'm surprized no one posted the lyrics for you! If you search on my nickname you'll find the lyrics for "I Like the Rain"

Here is Lifestyle:

you wake up in the mornin and you're smokin like a house on fire
cause you been out all night and you're burnt down to the wire
I really love ya baby but you're puttin me through the fire
woh-oh

you're lifestyle
is killin me

you're lifestyle
is killin me

and if I don't do nothin bout it there'll be nothin left of me
woh-oh

you're talkin too much boy you're drivin it way too fast
and you never make sense cause you're too busy havin a blast
I know we got no future cause you just can't remember the past
woh-oh

[[..chorus..]]

packed my bags got one foot out the door
cause I can't take one more night on the killin floor
I must be losin my mind cause I think I'm comin back for more
woh-oh

[[..chorus..]]

stop
killin me

stop
killin me

[[..fade..]]

Do The Stu replied to rzzldzzl mark fielding greenbrae, ca usa

if you'll happily pay an inflated ticket price for Row 6, why even bother with presales in the first place? Just wait a few weeks and get front and center tickets from a scalper. In a sense that's the same as getting these "premium" tickets.

I totally disagree. The diference in the case of the Premium tickets is

A. Joe is guaranteeing a specific set of rows in return for a specific price (something hard to guarantee if you use ticketmaster or scalpers)

and

B. there are additional VALUE ADDED BENEFITS such as T-shirts, photo's, backstage passes, etc

and

c. most importantly the dollars you shell-out got not to a scalper, but to the tour/Joe/Joe's organization.

Austin, I realize you're not a fan of the premium tickets packages, but you could at least recognize it's better FOR JOE if his fans purchase the ticket packages sold here at satriani.com over paying any similar amount to a blood-sucking scalper.

again I will say this: I wish I had MORE money I could throw in Joe's direction. I would buy the Platinum package in heartbeat if I had the dinero. I would buy the gold package for my family if I had the money. I would do this with ZERO regret, and have zero problem with Joe selling these on his this, his website.

+~The Queen Has Spoken~+

a belated HI to Alexandre :)

Hi to Zenfish and S4TCH BOOGIE ~ nice to see you post!

Ibanez89 James Abbott Bagnara Calabra, Reggio Calabria (RC) Italia

Welcome to T2J!

Here's what I think:

I don't play guitar, rather, I lurk here on T2J soaking up all the local color ~ I suspect the reason you're not getting a reply is those of us who don't play are aware there are many regulars here who also play Joe's songs, so what is there to "think" if we can't hear your playing, and the regulars here who DO play Joe's music would also like to hear your playing in order to tell you what they "think" ~ does that make sense?

I do think it is a wonderful thing to emulate Joe and play his songs if that brings you joy

it's all about the joy

...peace,everyone...

~faye