hey ovation thanks for saying hi well have fun

Hey Jsc1-Steve Morse Always Alt picks everything,even stuff that people mistake for sweeps,like "Tumeni Notes".The sound is much more defined.He said the difference between alt picking an arpeggio,and sweeping it,is like the difference between fingering a complex arpeggio on piano,and just running a finger down the keyboard.

I don't like Economy picking personally.It lacks definition,to my ears.Most people say they want it to sound smooth,like a horn player.Well,just use hammer ons and pull offs then,right?

Having said all that,remember,I detest malmsteen :D

Ovation,that was me saying that,my cousin was just saying thanks for saying hi,lol.

Economy is about the odd-even rule.odd number of notes per string until you want to change direction,then it has to be even number.I.e- E 8 10 12 / A 8 10 12 then to change direction D 8 10 and then back to odd.

The economy is in reference to the number of pick strokes you save on the same licks you can alternate pick.

In all actuality,economy picking is a combination of Sweeping and Alternate picking.

I know you know the difference between the two,phrygdom,I just think the unitiated will be confused.

But they are not technically called the same thing(at least not by any exponents of the Technique that I can think of,Gambale for instance.)

PhrygDom-Sorry dude,I didn't mean to come off as condescending.I don't need to look it up though,I have several videos on the technique.But,I will say that Sweeping and Economy picking are related.But,economy and alternate picking are related too,as when you economy pick,half of the notes are still alternate picking.

I know you understand,but I think the way you explained it in your previous post may have been missintrepreted by people unfamiliar with the technique.

The only person I have heard call Economy picking sweep picking is JPetrucci(Not from his mouth,its in the rock discipline book)and he never even uses true economy picking,so I don't consider him an authority on it.

As far as the modern guitar world goes,Gambale is the big pioneer of economy picking.And that's what he calls it(He used to call it speed picking,and I have heard Shawn Lane call it that...Kinda a dumb name,dont ya think,lol).

Whereas sweeping has been around for many decades.

Personally,I think sweeping is not that advanced of a technique.Neither is string skipping.There is a lot of mystery surrounding those two words,and it's just a misunderstanding.

Just ask Vinnie Moore.He and Steve were jamming on Freeway Jam,live.Vinnie thought a little playfull duel mid song would be cool.Vinnie would play a lick,and Steve would copy it exact,right back at him.So Vinnie thought he could throw a wrench in Morse's engine by sweeping(Since everyone knows Morse doesn't sweep)WRONG! Morse threw the lick right back at him.Vinnie was stunned,lol.

BUT,I will concede,Steve does have tendency to use similar licks a lot of the time.

But he and YJM arent even in the same sport,imo.

YJM is writing the same songs,over and over,using the same licks.Morse has a vast stylistic repertoire,and is constantly evolving song wise.Leads wise,yeah,he does tend to Palm mute fast runs,and do long bends,and use a lot of chromatics,and some of the same string skipping Ideas.But,he does surprise a lot more often than YJM.

Phrygian dom-Right on man.I agree about Gambale.A total snob about the technique.I really don't like his playing much,lol.

Reminds me of Dimeola,He believes if you dont alt pick every note,then you aren't really playing the notes.Whatever,lol.

I don't mind not getting anything really cool,I wasn't expecting anything,and I was happy to be with my favorite aunt.

Oh,one of my buddy's mailed me "Metroid II" for the gameboy,that was cool.

I would have liked some money,lol.But it's cool.

Kevin-hehe,yeah man,you were the first person I Tried to call when I got back,but the battery on my phone died for some weird reason. I was gone for a week,and the battery was dead,lol...strange.

I got a new phone yesterday,so Ill call ya later on

I just checked Steve Morse's tour dates section,and nothing is scheduled for the first half of 2003-not until the end of May.Maybe he will be in G3 this year?

I hope so!Gotta start saving $$$ now!

Phryg- "The residual ehh-choes!!!(The residual Ehh-choesss!!!)

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Leanna- Slick is an unreleased track from the Strange Beautiful Music recording sessions.There is a short teaser clip of it in the Discography section,methinks.

God,for the life of me I can't remember what type of music that is.....Some stuff like that is also in the Movie "the Mask".

No,god I cant think of it,and its driving me nuts.

There was a period in the late 90's where it was poppular again.Suits,brass section.Kinda big band-ish.Damn.

hehe,The Cherry Poppin Daddies lead singer's name was Steve Perry.hehe.I would have changed my name.

No,It's not Ska.It was popular like,in the thirties or something like that.Count Basie is an Exponent.

I think it may be Swing,but I swear there was some phrase commonly used for what Im thinking of.I already did a search online for about a half hour,so Ive just given up.

Joe,would you ever be into a project like Liquid Tension Experiment?

It was a great couple of CDs featuring Tony Levin,Jordan Rudess,and JPetrucci and MPortnoy,just in case you hadn't heard of it.

I for one would love to hear you do something like this.Both albums were done in amazingly short periods of time,and were heavily Jam/Improv based.

Being that you are one of my favorite improvisers,I think a project like this,with you in it would be earth shattering.

Something like- Satriani on guitar,banjo,harmonica Victor Wooten on Bass Carter Beauford(Dave Mathews band) on Drums maybe a Piano player. Produced by Eric Caudieux

would be amazing,I think.

Ovation,I have been meaning to check out Stern.One of these days.Petrucci speaks very high of him.

I am not into jazz,except for 2 guys-Metheny and Scofield.I LOVE Pat,and Im getting more and more into Sco.

I like Dimeola a little,but I don't consider him Jazz.