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Ibanezplyr
Randell Mulligan
Dublin, CA
USA
Plays: Guitar (50 years)
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Phrygiandominate: I'm 44.
Thu Sep 26 '02 9:00:09 pm Set this message as last read

dragonchild
Eva Viding
ENSKEDE,
Sweden
Plays: Other (27 years)
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PhrygianDominant: He talks about Tipper Gore some, in the context of a group of women married to senators or members of the congress, trying to censor the music lyrics. They were the ones that managed to put those 'Explicit Lyrics'-stickers on the covers.
I don't recall anything about AudioGalaxy/Napster though. I'll have to read it again, maybe I skipped that part. :) On the other hand, he writes about a hilarious and very farce-like trial in England where he was accused of being obscene in his lyrics and therefore has to cancel a concert. There's a transcript in the book from the trial and it's VERY amusing......... LOL
Fri Sep 27 '02 12:40:09 am Set this message as last read

Mr Nick

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clarky..maybe it was unclear, i cant remember. try again to explian and i'll say why i dont understand it (if i dont). :)

JsClone1 and Stu not boo...happy 300th...how long is it going to be till you reach 4 figures?

Fri Sep 27 '02 1:52:37 am Set this message as last read

Narface

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Avarice: So I guess I'll just hafta wait for SBM??
Phrygian Dominant: Actually, I have a Zoom noise reduction in my multi effects, but I'm looking for a separate pedal that I can hook up at the end of my signal chain. I once played a gig where they had the 'best' PA system. Well, the PA made my equipment buzz like a bee! It was realy annoying! Even with the hum cancel activated on my strat!! So any help would be welcome!


Edited Fri Sep 27 '02 2:34 am
Fri Sep 27 '02 2:33:27 am Set this message as last read

kalenargex
alex king
odense
denmark
Plays: Guitar (31 years)
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clarky and local person thanks for the tuition, guys. i'm learning, and having fun filling in the blanks of my limited theory and practice, so the simple explanations are much apprecieted.

i'm a teacher/instructor my self, so i understand how hard it can be to think of 4-5 different ways of explaining the same thing. its difficult to be a beginner again.

i also subscribe to the "the most stupid, is the one not asked" theory, so i'm just letting you know now that there will be more stupid questions coming.

cheers...

Fri Sep 27 '02 3:57:39 am Set this message as last read

vestibulitis

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Hey Joe,

I just saw you in Camden with Dream theater. I don't think the show could've been bad wherever I sat. I think I can agree that it was some Strange Beautiful Music. The fact that I had really good seats made the night quite enjoyable. And I have to say I'm quite proud to wear the black JS sweatshirt with your name on the left sleeve. It is officialy my favorite piece of clothing. That thing goes with me everywhere. And not to sound like more of an idiot than I already am; but that has to be one of the most comfortable hooded sweatshirts I have ever worn. Keep on rockin'. You definately know how to write a beautiful melody. While the show was great, I do wish you would have focused more on the new album in concert. Not a complaint. Just a thought. Okay.

Fri Sep 27 '02 4:12:57 am Set this message as last read

arpeggiomeister
Michael Theberge
Kingfield, Maine

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Joe, The new album rips. I like the stuff you did with the seven string guitars. I think Mind Storm is my favorite off the album. I was reading some of the messages and someone mentioned Jennifer Batten for the next g3 tour. That would definately be a must see. It's great to see a female who can hold her own in this male-dominated sport. I unfortunately missed the recent Boston show with Dream Theatre and King's X. Blew the water pump in my car. Bummer!! I had been looking forward to it all summer too.
Fri Sep 27 '02 5:17:53 am Set this message as last read

PhryDom
Dave
Atlanta, GA
USA
Plays: Guitar (45 years)
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dragonchild: no I don't think the Napster thing is in there, but I believe Tipper Gore started it all off after the Parental Advisory nonsense. Man she must be bored in her life.

Narface: yeah buzz is so annoying! I find using batteries in effects instead of power supplies helps, but it can get expensive! Maybe you could try and get hold of a parametric EQ and dial in a deep cut at 50Hz - that should get rid of modt of your mains-related buzz. Your own frequency for mains might be slightly different there in HK though. Boss do a noise suppressor (an NS-something I think), so you might want to try that too. I think there are (expensive) power boards you can get with filtering built in too. Try searching google for guitar effects buzz - it happens to the best of us ;-) Good luck!
Fri Sep 27 '02 5:18:03 am Set this message as last read

neil777
neil rigg
simonside, south shields
england
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Hello Joe, My name is Neil Rigg, I've been a fan for years. What sort of stuff are you working on now? I plan to go to the guitar institue next year, or the year after once I've saved up enough money from the band I work in. I heard that you have held seminars there, is this true?

How often do you practice? And have you slowed down with age? So many questions Joe but I don't want to take up to much space on here so I will leave it at that. Thanks for the inspiration.

Neil Rigg orangepeel21@hotmail.com

Edited Wed Oct 2 '02 7:31 am

Fri Sep 27 '02 5:39:12 am Set this message as last read

njbeast
David Wren
Manchester,
UK
Plays: Guitar (25 years)
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Hey joe and Guys

I think i have found the problem on my cutting out amp, and i think i will not have to buy new cabels.. I think because i use my half stack in my room with all my other equipment it can get quite warm, so I think the amp my be over heating, what do you guys think?.......

Joe.... Have you made any plans for a G3 tour?

Cheers

Dave

Fri Sep 27 '02 6:05:35 am Set this message as last read

Glencora
Glencora Woods
Waterford, Leinster
Ireland
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ANIBUR thanks for that im goin to look up his sister, cant wait to see her work, if she half as committed to her work as joe im in for a treat.
Fri Sep 27 '02 6:16:05 am Set this message as last read

AVARICE

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JOE: Quick question. The guitar that was stolen; did you use it on the SBM recordings? If so, and I know this may sting a little, but that's just your pride taking a hit (a little like a paper cut) but would it not be better to just say.."It's gone..but it was insured"? After all, with the insurance money and a word in the right ear at Ibanez, I am sure something better could be sourced. Think of it as an old faithfull dog. Great when it was a puppy, but in the latter years the bad smell from the rotting teeth was never that nice to smell - however much you loved the dang thing. And SBM was full of rotting teeth! Just a thought.
Fri Sep 27 '02 7:01:14 am Set this message as last read

AVARICE

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And before everyone leaps to the defence of SBM, just remember this.....I fooled you once, I'll fool you twice....the first one was free, but someone needs to pay the ferryman for this one....any takers....biggest??....baa...baa...baa...baa
Fri Sep 27 '02 7:07:52 am Set this message as last read

GuitarCrazy20022002
Guitar Crazy
Detroit, MI
USA
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This site Rocks, I like the chat and message board, great ideas!!! I am looking for some more cool music to listen too! So far:
Joe Satriani (obviously) - www.satriani.com
Seventh Spectrum - www.seventhspectrum.com
Steve Vai - www.vai.com
Dream Theatre - www.dreamtheatre.net

These are my favorite bands, does anyone know of any other bands similar to these bands styles!! Please let me know!!! Thanks!!!!


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Fri Sep 27 '02 7:29:33 am Set this message as last read

Clarky
Paul Clark
plays the organ, going blind
www.paul-clark.com
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kinger - I'm real glad that this is getting straight in your mind... great stuff... when you use this 'ttsttts' scheme, you are looking at the intervals between the degrees instead of from each degree with respect to the tonic... and yes, this template of intervals applies only to a major scale... the only draw back with looking at a scale this way is that is don't tell you much about the scale itself.... if you use the T, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 system you can see at a glance that the 3rd for example is major... this therfore immediately hints at the tonality... for example.... harmonic minor is, using your system, t,s,t,t,s,1 1/2t,s... as opposed to T,2, b3, 4, 5, b6, 7... which indicates that only the 3rd and 6th are minor.... this gives you a better idea of what is going on... both systems are however perfectly valid....
the problem with 'differing opinions' is that many guitarists learn their theory by word of mouth of from books / mags... this can sometimes cause problems... you can't ask a book questions if you're not sure and need further explanation... and often the word of mouth earning contains slang or mis-used terms.... music is like any other language, so if folks just invent terms / slang or mis-use existing terms, then the true meaning is either lost, not full represented, distorted or not understood in the first place....
I too suffered with all of this [as I am a self taught street shredding by origin] but all of this was nicely staightened out when I studied music at the university of London... it was then that it all began to fall into place and become very clear to me...
Deadpool - I'm glad you're enjoying this... great stuff... and no, I'm not a music or guitar teacher... never have been either... I do however go to great lengths to help out my brother / sister shredders though... kind of "share the wealth"...lol
phryg dom - yup... there's plenty left... I'll take it as far as peoples interest will allow..... once we get the basics out of the way and all the nice foundations have been laid, we can look at the wonders...lol
Fri Sep 27 '02 8:18:21 am Set this message as last read

Clarky
Paul Clark
plays the organ, going blind
www.paul-clark.com
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local person - neapolitan 6ths are not in the 'augmented 6th' family, they are completely different..the Nea 6th is a chord IV substitute.. the 'aug 6th' function is a little different... in my track The Rape of the Sabine Women, I use a Neapolitan 6th in the soft section in the middle... [the F in 1st inversion in the key of Em moving to V7 - really quite a beautiful progression].. check out Beethovens Sonata Moonlight, 2nd mvt.... the Nea 6th usage provides such a fabulous twist in the melody... tremendous stuff...
bong hits - iree I
akreepish - but this things, Hungarian minor, French 6th are the technical names.... love them or hate them, that is what they are called.... e.g. the use of a major chord on the flattened super tonic in 1st inversion as a substitute for chord IV in a IV->V progression at a perfect cadence was a stylistic inovation of mid-Barroque period Naples.. the term Neapolitan 6th was applied to it and has remained ever since [something like 300 years]... when you talk to a music scholar about a Neapolitan 6th, they immediately understand you... desribing a German 6th or the Tristan 6th is very painful without all of the studying that goes with it... German 6th is therefore the recognised technical term for this chord...
Yes the Tristan chord is in first inversion but there is a fair bit more to it than that. E, G# C is not correct as the 'aug 6th' family are not triads and they follow very specific rules... first you need to know what key you are in before you can look at notes as the 'aug 6th' chords also occur at a specific interval with respect to the tonic and are also part of a progression....If there is sufficient interest then I'll describe these chords in detail when I move into the more complex theoretical stuff.. they are very cool, and I'm using them on some of the tracks that I'm writing for my new album.. a German 6th in heavy metal with a full orchestra and chior sounds very cool indeed.... but I have to get the basics down first..... # : )
Mr Nick - why do you think that G# and Ab are the same note... let me know your thinking and I can take it from there...
Looks like Avarice is back..... and TTJ returns to abnormality... lol
Fri Sep 27 '02 8:18:33 am Set this message as last read

jblaze1

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Avarice:It sounds to me like you have to take that Dog to the vet for a cleanin'...lol...Also,there is Doggy mouthwash ya know....& of course Doggy Shampoo(or is it real Poo?)Sometimes I think they prefer the real Poo!.......just a thought;~}jblaze1 Hi JOE
Fri Sep 27 '02 8:21:23 am Set this message as last read

KhakiCoalition
Drew Ryan
Ogallala, Nebraska
USA
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Greetings all.

Tonight is the next gig in our Ogallala tour. This tour involves a set of venues ranging from the Sip and SIzzle to the Sip and Sizzle and then back again a little later in the year to the Sip and Sizzle. We may play the TD's Sports Club if the masses scream loud enough.

Two new originals for this weekends show!! We'll be playing our first original, Short Notice Comp Day and our newest song Slow, Deep Anger. Short Notice Comp Day is the story of mine and my singers adventures in our boss's office for being late after staying up till the wee hours writing music and Slow, Deep Anger is a song that sounds like a guy griping about a girl leaving him but turns out later in the song that she was killed and all the memorys feed his slow, burning anger. We like to tell stories with our music and not just bitch about stuff like that whiney, punk ass no talent hack Limp Bizquick. Apologies ahead of time to any LB fans.

Wish us luck this weekend and may the guitar Gods (Satch and John Petrucci) be with you.

Peace!

Drew

Fri Sep 27 '02 8:33:32 am Set this message as last read

jelly man
Paul Huxley
Guildford, Surrey
England
Plays: Bass (24 years)
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clarky- did i say anything about neapoliton and augmented 6ths being the same? i don't think so (although i might have in a moment of tiredness) i think it was someone else talkign about that. Neapolitan 6th is used in a minor key usually and resolves to the dominant does it not? Or am I being silly again. There's the chord that is the first inversion of the flattened supertonic. Aaah forgetful mind. It's be great if you could tell me which is which.
Fri Sep 27 '02 8:51:00 am Set this message as last read

Clarky
Paul Clark
plays the organ, going blind
www.paul-clark.com
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Theory posse – so for all of you that tried to work out the chords of G major, here they are:
I = G, II = Am, III = Bm, IV = C, V = D, VI = Em, VII = F#mb5
Let’s take a quick look at chord VII. You would have seen that it has F# as a root, a minor 3rd [A] and a diminished 5th [C]. This chord is also known as a ‘diminished’ triad. To be nice and specific as to the name of the chord, you’d write it F#mb5 [spoken: F sharp minor flat five]. Some of the old jazzers write this chord: F#m-5 using a minus sign instead of a ‘b’ sign but when spoken it has the same name.

You can see that the combination of triad chord types for a major scale are: major, minor, minor, major, major, minor, minor flat five. This relationship is the same no matter what the tonic of the scale is so, in the scale of C, the notes are: C, D, E, F, G, A, B…. the chords are therefore C, Dm, Em, F, G, Am, Bmb5….. and this pattern of chord types can be applied to major scales in all keys…. Lovely….

When applying the chord to the guitar, the notes of the chord can turn up in any order and as many times as you like… provided the root is the lowest sounding note, the chord will still retain the same name.. by changing the order of the notes you are changing the ‘voicing’ [not the inversion – that is a completely different thing]…

For example: the chord of G contains the notes… G, B, D… if you play it in it’s ‘open’ fingering [guitar slang] you get, from the 6th string, G, B, D, G, B, G…. If you used the ‘E chord fingering’ but played it as a barre chord over the 3rd fret the notes are G, D, G, B, D, G…. so the notes are in a different order… Both of those G chords are still ‘G chords’ but they have a different voicing….

So, all of the chords listed above are ‘diatonic’ to G major…. Playing a piece of music in G will include only these chords…. If a piece of music which is in G contains a different chord then it is undiatonic and you would then have to give it special attention [we’ll look at that in detail when we talk about ‘modulation].

So, many of you already know plenty of chords or have chord chart books…. Try building a few chord progressions in G using the chords above… such as I, IV, V, VI, IV, I….. etc…. experiment… note how it sounds moving from a G to a C… a G to an Em… mix it all up…. Invent progressions of your own… make music…. Then ‘transpose’ it - move the same progression into a different key so where I, IV, VI, V in G = G, C, Em, D… in A it would become A, D, F#m, E….. etc… no key is ‘out of bounds’… get used to them…. Get used to moving things between different keys… the mental math involved is good for you and you’ll being to see and hear similarities… the mysterious will become familiar ground…

In the next post I’ll talk about ‘inversions’…

Fri Sep 27 '02 9:23:38 am Set this message as last read

Clarky
Paul Clark
plays the organ, going blind
www.paul-clark.com
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local person - no you did not make a connection between 'nea 6ths' and 'aug 6ths'... I know this and you are quite right in what you say... I posted that stuff purely for reasons of clarity so that if some of the 'less well trained' or the 'new guys to theory' accidentally tried to make that connection then I'd break it before it was made.... kind of 'heading off an error at the pass'... lol
Fri Sep 27 '02 9:29:36 am Set this message as last read

jblaze1

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Njbeast:I had the same problem with my Solid State(of confusion)Amp cutting out while playing live or at practice.It has something to do with Power Outlets....When too many are hooked into one outlet,power has to be a constant......[Getting a cooling fan for the Amp may also solve that problem but chances are if the Amp doesn't have a cooling fan,it shouldn't need one but it can't hurt..That may help too.......Nothing but the Amp in one outlet may be the resolution........[About the Power supply noise problem:I converted to adapters with no noticable change in humming or hiss(saved me a small fortune too).In some instances,power supplies may cause a little noise but it depends on the system grounding & shielding...I have a power strip running all 6 of my floor effects except for the Amp itself.Perfectly silent even at high volumes.Although some places are worse than others.Years of experimenting with different combinations helped me come to that conclusion..Also,if you have a computer,T.V. or anything else that draws allot of power in the same room running at the same time may also have something to do with the noise problem! Fluerecent(did I spell that right?) lights are the biggy.........hope that helps:).....jblaze1

Edited Fri Sep 27 '02 10:07 am
Fri Sep 27 '02 10:04:32 am Set this message as last read

jelly man
Paul Huxley
Guildford, Surrey
England
Plays: Bass (24 years)
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cool clarky- i'm a bit vacant in my head at the moment. Not been doing much theory stuff in music. I eagerly await the future lessons. They have been very clear and accurate, and good which makes a change from many guitarists. Having a music degree behind you I'm sure helps.

Can't wait to go to university :)

Fri Sep 27 '02 10:13:36 am Set this message as last read

jelly man
Paul Huxley
Guildford, Surrey
England
Plays: Bass (24 years)
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double post, sorry-

joe! - Listening to Engines Of Creation, I love the freeness, the complicated harmony- It always makes me go "wow!". In future releases, it would be great if you could be as loose and experimental, whatever genre you choose to go into.

Fri Sep 27 '02 10:16:18 am Set this message as last read

njbeast
David Wren
Manchester,
UK
Plays: Guitar (25 years)
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Hey iblaze1 cheers for the advise. cheers

Dave

Fri Sep 27 '02 10:41:51 am Set this message as last read
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