death cube k
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js clone 1 that strange blip happened in the mp3 conversion somehow , sorry dude didn't mean to piss u off! oh yeah the Bh pic on my site , well i just thought it was funny, thats all
austin midi is a crazy thing , yeah it happened when i replaced the sample and it worked, fit the gruve so i left it alone.
xcpx thanx man!!!!!!
hey we have all used cheat post from time to time..............o.k. yeah it was only me haha...........
and thanx for the feed back on the new tune!!!!
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Do The Stu
Austin Lewis, III Costa Mesa, CA United States Plays: Bass (25 years)
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Hi everyone. I forgot to ask something about the World Series yesterday... Does anyone know who the guitarist is that plays the music while Fox goes through the starting lineups for both teams? I don't recognize the song (it was probably created specifically for Fox), but the guitarist's tone and style sounded very familiar.
Also...the program that my computer uses to play DVDs has decided to stop working nicely. So does anyone have any suggestions on a free one that's really good? Let me know...thanks.
Edit - 369 posts! 3 6 9...12 15 18...21 24 27...30. That School House Rock song helped me learn my 3x multiplication tables...haha. Does anyone remember it?
...Austin...
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Clarky
Paul Clark plays the organ, going blind www.paul-clark.com
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Theory posse – ok folks… the part that many of you have been waiting for…. Modes..
modes are scales just like any other, therefore they simply provide a template of intervals carving up an octave.. nothing more, nothing less… think back to how the natural minor and how it was calculated from its relative major scale to generate a new scale [based upon a new series of intervals]… so modes are calculated in exactly the same way but with one small difference.. they each use a different starting note from its relative major [which I’ll call the centre key].
So, if there are seven notes in a diatonic major scale, then there can be only seven diatonic modes…
The main point to note is that the major scale is used only calculate the modes… the similarity ends there as each mode is a scale in its own right…
The scale of G major is composed of the following [familiar by now] series of intervals:
Tonic, major 2nd, major 3rd, perfect 4th, perfect 5th, major 6th, major 7th.
The major scale also has a name in modal terms…. Ionian… therefore G major = G Ionian.
I you look from the 2nd degree of the major scale, rename it from being the 2nd of the major scale to the tonic of a new scale you’ll see a completely new series of intervals emerge. We’ll do this using G major…
Starting from the 2nd we get the following series of note values… A, B, C, D, E, F#, G, the Dorian mode…. and calculating the intervals with respect to this new tonic [in this case ‘A’] you get:
tonic, major 2nd, minor 3rd, perfect 4th, perfect 5th, major 6th, minor 7th. [which is essentially a minor scale with a major 6th]…. So this example is A Dorian
All of the chords that we calculated from the centre key [in this case G major] still apply but they are rotated in the same way as the notes themselves… we get I = Am, II = Bm, III = C, IV = D, V = Em, VI = F#mb5, VII = G
Note that A Dorian is like being in a ‘key’ in its own right… the progression I, IV, V would be Am, D, Em…. and when creating melodies it has a minor tonality but the major 6th makes it sound less ‘dark’ than a natural minor [with its minor 6th]… also… although the mode is calculated from G major… you are never in the key of G because you are in A Dorian…
When you are in the key of G major and the Am chord is sounding, you are still in G major – not in A dorian.
When you are in A Dorian and the G chord is sounding, you are still in A Dorian – not in G Ionian.
What we’ve just seen applies to all modes…. They are calculated from a parent major scale – the centre key – they adopt all of the available chords from the centre key – they have a new series of intervals – they are essentially keys in their own right…… and of course the G-everywhere thing provides the fingerings for all modes derived from G major all over the neck…
So let’s go through the seven of them…. Using G major as the Centre key…
G Ionian [which is G major G, A, B, C, D, E, F# - 1-2-3-4-5-6-7]
A Dorian [minor with a major 6th A, B, C, D, E, F#, G – 1-2-b3-4-5-6-b7]
B Phrygian [minor with a minor 2nd B, C, D, E, F#, G, A – 1-b2-b3-4-5-b6-b7]
C Lydian [major with an augmented 4th C, D, E, F#, G, A, B – 1-2-3-#4-5-6-7]
D Mixolydian [major with a minor 7th D, E, F#, G, A, B, C – 1-2-3-4-5-6-b7]
E Aeolian [which is the relative / natural minor E, F#, G, A, B, C, D – 1-2-b3-4-5-b6-b7] spoken ‘oolian’ according to a Greek guy I know…
F# Locrian [minor with a minor 2nd and diminished 5th F#, G, A, B, C, D, E – 1-b2-b3-4-b5-b6-b7]
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Ally F
Alasdair Forbes Scotland
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this made me laugh,
two guys are talking about christmas one day and one guy says "so what are you getting your wife for christmas this year?" the other guy replies "a pair of shoes and a big dildo" "why the big dildo?" the first guy asks and then the other guy replies "so if she dont like the shoes she can go fuck herself"
well i thought it was funny.
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Clarky
Paul Clark plays the organ, going blind www.paul-clark.com
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Theory posse - also, what helps to see the modes for what they are is to calculate them based around the same tonic… I’ll use G.
G Ionian is from the Tonic of a major scale [in this case G major G, A, B, C, D, E, F#]
G Dorian is from the 2nd of a major scale [in this case F major F, G, A, Bb, C, D, E]
G Phrygian is from the 3rd of a major scale [in this case Eb Major Eb, F, G, Ab, Bb, C, D]
G Lydian is from the 4th of a major scale [in this case D major D, E, F#, G, A, B, C#]
G Mixolydian is from the 5th of a major scale [in this case C major C, D, E, F, G, A, B]
G Aeolian is from the 6th of a major scale [in this case Bb major Bb, C, D, Eb, F, G, A]
G Locrian is from the 7th of a major scale [in this case Ab major Ab, Bb, C, Db, Eb, F, G]
The very cool part is; if you know the mode and the tonic, you can work out the centre from which it was derived… you then shift the G-everywhere thing accordingly – e.g. centre key of A major means the whole thing moves 2 frets up the neck – you can now play in any major, natural minor and diatonic mode in any key from the nut to the top fret…. Now ain’t that something……. And all from learning a little math and 7 fingerings…… not too much pain for such a huge gain…
So here’s a lil’ math thing. Try working out the notes and the centre keys for all of the modes where the tonics are:
C, then E, then A… [that’s 21 different scales]
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hey joe just hooked on to the site after finally getting a computer so forgive me if this question has been asked before. Do you ever plan on a concert somewhere in western Canada soon, specifically around the Vancouver area? If so please let me know. Thanks man and keep up the good work.
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Stu Clone
Graham Shackelford Tacoma, Washington USA Plays: Bass (26 years)
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Stu fans!!!!!
The Stuart Hamm fan website is on the lookout for someone that can check out Stu's next gig (since it's looking like none of us can go... Austin, you might be in the area)
Hey Peter,
Met your American liason at a clinic last week
I'll be playing School Days with Stanley Clarke at a Benefit for MI in
Hollywood next Thursady (24) along with Flea. Sheehan, M Miller(I think) and
a slew of other bassists
Hope all is well keep in touch
Stu
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Marshall Benson Oakland, CA United States Plays: Guitar (27 years)
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SPARROW!!! i would love to have some of the bootlegs you have. email me PLEASE!! mooben@aol.com. thank you so much. or, you could tell me where you got the bootlegs... or you could upload them to me through AIM. whatever works for you. mooben@aol.com!
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Is there any way we can download/ listen to the full versions of Slick and The Eight Steps? I really wanna hear these tunes, I have all the albums :-)
BTW did Joe ever find his stolen chrome guitar? :-/
Isaac
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Invigor
John B Regina, Sk Canada Plays: Guitar (27 years)
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death cube k: nah man, hand's fine tho, lol, kinda playin some, just anticipating the arrival of my js1000bp..again...i decided to cancel it, then reorder it, so hopefully efkay still has one around, otherwise it's comin from japan baby..
chicks are hard to find, there's tons at bars, i love it..but i dunno how to pick one up and bring her home with me
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death cube k
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invigor well dude, when in doubt.....whip it out!!!!!!!!!!! this works 50% of the time, so pretty good odds, my friend used to ask em to go back to his place to play his guitar for em and it worked, i still say whip it out !!!!!!!!
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JS Clone 1
Richard Haier Toronto, Ontario Canada
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The Local Person - I'd say thanks but i'm still trying to figure out why I was in that ever so kind message.
Whojack - Problem.
PhrygDom - (Was a joke ... "ha ha?") ... haha next thing we know, there's a huge ORANGE post "you guys should congratulate clone 1 on his number of messages etc..."
DeathCube K - I dug that song anyways. Was interesting to listen to. I'm starting to realize there is a lot of repetativeness in instrumental guitar rock. Few artists can maintain my interest. Some guitarists who write songs are really great players but they're compositions don't have a whole lot to them to make them special.
-My hand, getting better. I'm playing every second day for 3 - 4 hours. It's really not enough time but I can't push it. Learning Hordes of Locusts all BY EAR (no tabs! tabs evil) to play at my school's xmas assembly. I'm learning both the NOTE version and the D#11 version. They're slightly different and they both have some parts to mix and match.
Invigor's hand?
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Daniel Rodrigues Goiânia, Goiás Brazil
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Dear Joe, there some time I want write to you to say that you are the best guitar player of all the time. I decide write this message when I heard "Starry night" from "Stranger Beautiful music". For me, this song is the most beautiful music that I already heard! So, this message is to give you thanks, because I know that these words are much important to you.
Keep making yours strange beautiful musics!
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Chad Kimes La Grange, Kentucky United States
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Hey everyone. I don't post much but I read T2J many times a day and as I was reading just now I noticed all this talking of Satch bootlegs, and I'd be about happy and a half if I could actually get my hands on one of them! I can't imagine having several of them as some of you guys have. It must be nice, considering that live Satch is about the best stuff in the world. I have nothing to trade except money (which is illegal I think, so my money is worthless in this case) and a couple of Zeppelin bootlegs. If any of you with bootlegs are willing to burn/tape one for me please email me at metalkimes@hotmail.com. I'll send the blank cds/tapes and whatever else we can work out as far as trading goes. Next, on the topic of fav Satch songs to drive to I'd have to say mine is either "One Big Rush" or MPHGT. I got pulled over on my way to see Joe while jammin' LISF. Before I go, what do you guys think of the version of "Echo" from Time Machine? I haven't seen anyone mention it and I think its badass! Once again thanks for the theory info, those who post it. Keep shreddin' everyone. Later
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brent anderson mechanicsburg, pa u.s.a.
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hey joe whats up just bought your new c.d strange beautiful music and like the rest of your stuff it totaly blows my mind i will always be a dedicated and loyal fan to you ! I wish you would come to hershey pennslvania and perform live .to show everybody here, there is nobody like you.keep up the great work. i will aways buy your music.
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Miguel Chavez Chi-town, Illinois USA Plays: Guitar (36 years)
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I agree with the guy who posted on Santana. He only knows 1 scale, and his solos are repititive....it's a personal opinion ,that's all...c ya'
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