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samerhil

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3) "Let us consider the life of an average grammar school boy, John Smith. His parents go to church now and then, but nevertheless- insist that John go to Sunday School every single week. The parents had married quite rightly because of mutual sex attraction; they had to marry, because in their milieu one could not live sexually together unless one was respectable, that is, married. As so often happens, the sex attraction was not enough; and differences of temperament made the home a strained place, with occasional loud-voiced arguments between the parents. There were many tender moments too, but little John took them for granted, whereas the loud quarrels between his parents hit him in the solar plexus, and he became frightened and cried and got spanked for crying for nothing. From the very first, he was conditioned. Timetable feeding gave him much frustration. When he was hungry, the clock said his feeding time was still an hour away. He was wrapped up in too many clothes, and wrapped too tightly. He found that he could not kick out as freely as he wanted to do. Frustration in feeding made him suck his thumb. But the family doctor said that he must not be allowed to form bad habits, and Mamma was ordered to tie up his arms in his sleeves or to put some evil-smelling substance on his fingertips. His natural functions were left alone during the diaper period. But when he began to crawl and perform on the floor, words like naughty and dirty began to float about the house, and a grim beginning was made in teaching him to be clean. Before this, his hand had been taken away every time it touched his genitals; and he soon came to associate the genital prohibition with the acquired disgust about feces. Thus, years later, when he became a traveling salesman, his story repertoire consisted of a balanced number of sex and toilet jokes. Much of his training was conditioned by relatives and neighbors. Mother and father were most anxious to be correct--to do the proper thing--so that when relatives or next-door neighbors came, John had to show himself as a well-trained child. He had to say Thank you when Auntie gave him a piece of chocolate; and he had to be most careful about his table manners; and especially, he had to refrain from speaking when adults were speaking. His abominable Sunday clothes were a concession to neighbors. With this training in respectability went an involved system of lying--a system he was usually consciously unaware of. The lying began early in his life. He was told that God does not love naughty boys who say damn, and that the conductor would spank him if he wandered along the train corridor. All his curiosity about the origins of life were met with clumsy lies, lies so effective that his curiosity about life and birth disappeared. The lies about life became combined with fears when at the age of five his mother found him having genital play with his sister of four and the girl next door. The severe spanking that followed (Father added to it when he came home from work) forever conveyed to John the lesson that sex is filthy and sinful, something one must not even think of. Poor John had to bottle up his interest in sex until he came to puberty, and then he would guffaw in the movies when some woman said she was three months pregnant. Intellectually, John’s career was normal. He learned easily, and thus escaped the sneers and punishment a stupid teacher might have given him. He left school with a smattering of mostly useless knowledge and a culture that was easily satisfied with cheap tabloids, trite films, and the pulp library of crime. To John, the name Colgate was associated only with toothpaste; and Beethoven and Bach were intrusive guys who got in the way when you were tuning in to Elvis Presley or the Beider becke Band."
Mon Aug 19 '13 12:28:19 pm Set this message as last read

samerhil

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4) "In the past, my main work was not teaching but the giving of “Private Lessons.” Most of the children required psychological attention, but there were always some who had just come from other schools, and the private lessons were intended to hasten their adoption to freedom. If a child is all tied up inside, he cannot adapt himself to being free. The P.Ls. were informal talks by the fireside. I sat with a pipe in my mouth, and the child could smoke, too, if he liked. The cigarette was often the means of breaking the ice. Once I asked a boy of fourteen to come and have a chat with me. He had just come to Summerhill from a typical private school I noticed that his fingers were yellow with nicotine, so I took out my pack of cigarettes and offered it to him. “Thanks,” he stammered, “but I don’t smoke, sir.” “Take one, you damned liar,” I said with a smile, and he took one. I was killing two birds with one stone. Here was a boy to whom headmasters were stern, moral disciplinarian to be cheated every time. By offering him a cigarette, I was showing that I approved of his smoking. By calling him a damned liar, I was meeting him on his own level. At the same time, I was attacking his authority complex by showing him that a headmaster could swear easily and cheerfully. I wish I could have photographed his facial expression during that first interview. He had been expelled from his previous school for stealing. “I hear you are a bit of a crook,” I said “What’s your best way of swindling the railway company?” “I never tried to swindle it, sir.” “Oh,” I said, “that won’t do. You must have a try. I know lots of ways,” and I told him a few. He gaped. This surely was a madhouse he had come to. The principal of the school telling him how to be a better crook? Years later, he told me that that interview was the biggest shock of his life."

"On with the dance-but it must be danced according to the rules. And the strange thing is that the crowd will accept the rules as a crowd, while at the same time the individuals composing the crowd may be unanimous in hating the rules. To me a London ballroom symbolizes what England is. Dancing which should be an individual and creative pleasure, it reduced to a stiff walk. One couple dances just like another couple. Crowd conservatism prevents most dancers from being original. Yet the joy of dancing is the joy of invention. When invention is left out, dancing becomes mechanical and dull. English dancing fully expresses the English fear of emotion and originality. If there is no room for freedom in such a pleasure as dancing how can we expect to find it in the more serious aspects of life?"

"It might justly be said that strict home discipline aims at castration in its widest sense, castration of life itself. No obedient child can ever become a free man or woman. No child punished for masturbation can ever be fully orgastically potent. I have said that the parent wants the child to become what he or she has failed to become. There is more to it than that: every repressed parent is at the same time determined that his child shall not get more out of life than he, the parent, got. Unalive parents won’t allow hildren to be alive. And such a parent always has an exaggerated fear of the future. Discipline, he thinks, will save his children. This same lack of onfidence in his inner self makes him postulate an outside God who will compel goodness and truth. Discipline is thus a branch of religion."

Mon Aug 19 '13 12:43:46 pm Set this message as last read

samerhil

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5) "A boy of eleven who came to Summerhill had the habit of incendiarism, among other habits. He had been thrashed by his father and by his teachers. Worse still, he had been taught the narrow religion of hell fire and an angry God. Soon after coming to Summerhill, he took a bottle of gasoline and poured it into a vat of paint and turpentine. Then he set fire to the mixture. The hour was saved only by the energy of two servants. I took him to my room. “What is fire?” I asked. “It burns,” he said. “What sort of a fire do you think of now?” I continued. “Hell,” he said. “And the bottle?” “A long thing with a hole at the end,” he answered. (Long pause.) “Tell me more about this long thing with a hole in the end,” I said. “My peter,” he said awkwardly, “has a hole at the end.” “Tell me about your peter,” I said kindly. “Do you ever touch it?” “Not now. I used to, but I don’t now.” “Why not?” “Because Mr. X [his last schoolmaster] told me that it was the greatest sin in the world.” I concluded that his fire making was a substituted act for masturbation. I told him that Mr. X was quite wrong, that his peter was no better and no worse than his nose or his ear. From that day on, his interest in fire went away."

Here is the quote from the very beginning of the book...
"A Word of Introduction In psychology, no man knows very much. The inner forces of human life are still largely hidden from us. Since Freud’s genius made it alive, psychology has gone far; but it is still a new science, mapping out the coast of an unknown continent. Fifty years hence, psychologists will very likely smile at our ignorance of today. Since I left education and took up child psychology, I have had all sorts of children to deal with - incendiaries, thieves, liars bed-wetters and bad-tempered children. Years of intensive work in child training has convinced me that I know comparatively little of the forces that motivate life. I am convinced, however, that parents who have had to deal with only their own children know much less than I do. It is because I believe that a difficult child is nearly always made difficult by wrong treatment at home that I dare address parents. What is the province of psychology? I suggest the word curing. But what kind of curing? I do not want to be cured of my habit of choosing the colors orange and black; nor do I want to be cured of smoking; nor of my liking for a bottle of beer. No teacher has the right to cure a child of making noises on a drum. The only curing that should be practiced is the curing of unhappiness. The difficult child is the child who is unhappy. He is at war with himself; and in consequence, he is at war with the world. The difficult adult is in the same boat. No happy man ever disturbed a meeting or preached a war, or lynched a Negro. No happy woman ever nagged her husband or her children. No happy man ever committed a murder or a theft. No happy employer ever frightened his employees. All crimes, all hatred, all wars can be reduced to unhappiness. This book is an attempt to show how unhappiness arises, how it ruins human lives, and how children can be reared so that much of this unhappiness will never arise. More than that, this book is the story of a place--Summerhill --where children’s unhappiness is cured and, more important, where children are reared in happiness."

Here is torrent-link to the English, Italian, Spanish, Russian, Serbian, Polish, Hindi, Marathi texts:
http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4485614

Or here (same files, but packed in "tar.gz" format):
english, italian, russian, hindi, marathi: http://rghost.net/48202064
spanish: http://rghost.net/48202107
polish: http://rghost.net/48201845
serbian: http://rghost.net/48201924

P. S. If oneday you, Joe, would like to write something to me, then, please, write me to the email, but not publically.

Edited Mon Aug 19 '13 1:08 pm

Mon Aug 19 '13 12:48:51 pm Set this message as last read

achoo
Tobias Barnes
Chicago, Illinois
United States
Plays: Guitar (33 years)
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OMG!!! Did Joe Satch just post to me? Or was it, indirectly, responding to Michelle's post? Either way I'm star struck. OMG!!! Too cool. Thanks Joe, very informative!

So, about this concert...Ordering tickets for the meet and greet in Chicago has been a nightmare. Had been trying to order them for weeks now on ticketmaster.com but it would never let me order them flat out. It would get to the select section-part and I tried best available(any price and section), and the price/section feature. For the life of me I couldn't get it to find tickets. I tried on every computer in my house and every ticket type available and it just wouldn't work.

Then I tried ordering them from my Iphone but the app doesn't have the meet and greet option on it. So then I go to a couple local libraries and try my luck there...No dice...

Then I call Ticketmaster and spoke to the regular ticketbox people to see if I could buy the tickets directly from them, and they informed me that it was an online thing only. I informed them that I had tried several times and that nothing worked.

After that, they supplied me with a number, that handles VIP tickets. I explained my situation to them and they pretty much told me the same thing the other people told me. I spoke to a Tina from VIP services and asked to talk to her manager who wasn't available. I told her that I would need the transpire, for lack of a better word, of my experience with ticketmaster and the fact that they weren't able to help me, in writing. Tina proceeded to tell me that she would Tell her boss(because he would be the one to handle that)and that she would have him email me. After trying to rush me off the phone before getting my email right(had to triple check with her that she had it correct), she assured me that her manager would get back to me promptly. He has never emailed me back.

I was asking for it in writing 'cause I figured that if I ever did get the tickets, even regular ones, I would show Joe's road manager(who I met at the last Joe show in Chicago 2010), that this was a problem and that they need to put a word in to ticketmaster.

So finally, I decided to go to a mom and pop internet café and try my luck there. I went on to internet explorer, played roulette, and crapped out (do you crap out in roulette? I don't think so lol.). SI then I tried as I did on all my other computers at home to do it on Mozilla as for they don't let you download that program or any program at the library. They let me download and load the program there(thank god for mom and pops). I tried again, and it still wouldn't let me select the meet and greet option. The only thing it would let me do was the full price ticket option $49-100.00 and the VIP Tour option. So of course I bought 2 for VIP if that was all I could do.

End of the story is, that I wasn't able to get the tickets I wanted and that I'm kinda upset. Still going to see Joe so that is the important part, I guess (I'm Sure!). But it would be nice if something could be done about it. Well who knows maybe I could win the drawing for the M.a.G. from the site, should I be so lucky. Still gonna try to get that frickin' email from Tina's boss.

Just had to vent about that guys...

Mon Aug 19 '13 6:56:12 pm Set this message as last read

achoo
Tobias Barnes
Chicago, Illinois
United States
Plays: Guitar (33 years)
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On a lighter note, been reading this interview on musicradar.com about Joe's U.M. tour and that he might play an original version of Luminous Flesh Giants live, never before heard. I say go for it, can't wait. He also said that if he plays Jumpin' Out that would play Time Machine. I say, go for that too Joe; Time Machine is my favorite song by you.

Can't wait to see what surprises you have in store for us for the US tour. Only a few weeks left...

Mon Aug 19 '13 7:06:16 pm Set this message as last read

wolf2

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what are you doing? seriously hey joe I have 6 billion 665 million 525 thousand nine hundered and 52 dollars from Team AAEN performance then I have 129 million from team ATk then 79 million from team husqvrana Sweden.Big changes to my buissness husqvrana motorcycle yeah it runs through Peterborough Ontario provincial police they run it shes moving it to Germany Austria in Germany I still own it I own husaberg too hey joe they wwere sweidshi in the old husky Sweden factory I moved them to Austria I own them through the department of correction don't know I read these dirtbike magazine I think their nuts they always are saying my husabers are endure ktms right their not their different the motors look similar but it,s ktm trying to copy me their seriously not the same not at all their both made in Austria now but are a breed aprt.You don't know what Team aaen is do you joe team aaen is a very old performance team for only roatry valve turbo engine rotax powere d machine their the fastest race team in the univeresre not wolrd actual universe that's what im in di do all the work to my formula mx 1985 myself to meet team requirement you physically and mentally have to meet the requiremnts as well it, s ort of under my welding licence from trade school that's true though brouther I have a bank dump attached to my account my account sais like 12 or 13 hundred when dissabilty goes in then I have 9 million from my last Rambo movie yeah Rambo is only small im the real Sylvester stallon is! that's that I was in team aaen year ago too on an old well brand new tnt in the 70,s or 80,s I built 2 new Canadian tire store cash with the other money from before this im just keeping that's not bad though hey 1985 formula mx ski-doo in team aaen performance 1990 atk 406 in team atk 1975 400wr husky in team husqvrana Sweden good hey this is real and true can you compete with that! I had 4 billion just from the new engine when it blew the rebuilt motor from quebec I pust a piston and gaket kit new cdi unit on they had the piston in backwards so it burned a whole throew plus ignition malfunction after I rebuilt it in my driveway in winet it made me 4 billion in cash this is all cash man in the bank grooveing or what anyways little smoke outside then home but that's exactly what I have from raceing etc the last 8 years later wolf2,.
Tue Aug 20 '13 8:54:37 am Set this message as last read

wolf2

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what are you doing? seriously hey joe I have 6 billion 665 million 525 thousand nine hundered and 52 dollars from Team AAEN performance then I have 129 million from team ATk then 79 million from team husqvrana Sweden.Big changes to my buissness husqvrana motorcycle yeah it runs through Peterborough Ontario provincial police they run it shes moving it to Germany Austria in Germany I still own it I own husaberg too hey joe they wwere sweidshi in the old husky Sweden factory I moved them to Austria I own them through the department of correction don't know I read these dirtbike magazine I think their nuts they always are saying my husabers are endure ktms right their not their different the motors look similar but it,s ktm trying to copy me their seriously not the same not at all their both made in Austria now but are a breed aprt.You don't know what Team aaen is do you joe team aaen is a very old performance team for only roatry valve turbo engine rotax powere d machine their the fastest race team in the univeresre not wolrd actual universe that's what im in di do all the work to my formula mx 1985 myself to meet team requirement you physically and mentally have to meet the requiremnts as well it, s ort of under my welding licence from trade school that's true though brouther I have a bank dump attached to my account my account sais like 12 or 13 hundred when dissabilty goes in then I have 9 million from my last Rambo movie yeah Rambo is only small im the real Sylvester stallon is! that's that I was in team aaen year ago too on an old well brand new tnt in the 70,s or 80,s I built 2 new Canadian tire store cash with the other money from before this im just keeping that's not bad though hey 1985 formula mx ski-doo in team aaen performance 1990 atk 406 in team atk 1975 400wr husky in team husqvrana Sweden good hey this is real and true can you compete with that! I had 4 billion just from the new engine when it blew the rebuilt motor from quebec I pust a piston and gaket kit new cdi unit on they had the piston in backwards so it burned a whole throew plus ignition malfunction after I rebuilt it in my driveway in winet it made me 4 billion in cash this is all cash man in the bank grooveing or what anyways little smoke outside then home but that's exactly what I have from raceing etc the last 8 years later wolf2,.
Tue Aug 20 '13 8:54:41 am Set this message as last read

hellfredo2
Alfred Montjovet
Paris,
France
Plays: Guitar (11 years)
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Hey everybody, it's been a long time :)

Steve Vai answered to a lot questions from fans om his facebook page. I you didn't read them already. Very interesting and/or funny. Steve is wonderful. Here's one of the questions: Fan: Steve, what's your favorite Joe Satriani's track ? Steve Vai: Crying (sings the melody)

Wed Aug 21 '13 12:31:09 am Set this message as last read

Blue_Moon
Alan McKenna
Dublin
Ireland
Plays: Guitar (23 years)
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Yeah i seen that I asked a question then couldn't find it amongst the rest of them!

Going to a masterclass with Vai next week in Derry of all places... Should be a nice road trip
Wed Aug 21 '13 8:32:50 am Set this message as last read

hellfredo2
Alfred Montjovet
Paris,
France
Plays: Guitar (11 years)
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Blue_moon lucky you :) To find your comment did you tryied the link "find your comment" it should be at the bottom of the page just under the link to see more comments ?
Wed Aug 21 '13 10:23:30 am Set this message as last read

1000
robin norris
standish, wigan
united kingdom
Plays: Guitar (29 years)
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hi joe is there any plans in the pipe line to make a combo version of your marshall signature something like the slash sl5 would be awsome im sure it would be a welcome addition for us bedroom guitarists the world over

many thanks robin

Wed Aug 21 '13 10:48:37 am Set this message as last read

Bruce Gregori
Bruce Gregori
Longmeadow, MA
USA
Plays: Guitar (51 years)
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Hey joe sent you a song called So Try through webmaster...could you give it a listen thanks Bruce
Wed Aug 21 '13 12:27:02 pm Set this message as last read

Commander_Bubbles
Gabe Lowrance
Robinson, Illinois (IL)
62454
Plays: Guitar (11 years)
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What song does Joe close with in this video?

Song starts around 46:30. From Berlin 2013.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzcKbrMWuZg

Wed Aug 21 '13 4:35:57 pm Set this message as last read

achoo
Tobias Barnes
Chicago, Illinois
United States
Plays: Guitar (33 years)
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Commander_Bubbles that song is called Rubina...Great track...
Wed Aug 21 '13 6:10:00 pm Set this message as last read

michelle

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achoo, that was all you man! It was yer question he was answering! Now you get to figure out what went where. lol!

Sorry about yer ticket mess. Maybe you can only get the meet & greets for a certain time before they disable it? I've never got one. Maybe somebody else knows more about it?

Does anyone know how much it sucks to have to buy a new washing machine at the same time yer kids college tuition is due? I do. Feckin machine broke down this week. It was an ugly death, but it had a good long life and served us well. Also same kid had a $135.00 cavity filled today. Alls I'm sayin' is there's a hole in our money bucket! lol!

Anybody got any gum?

Koko & Robin Williams

Wed Aug 21 '13 7:48:00 pm Set this message as last read

Commander_Bubbles
Gabe Lowrance
Robinson, Illinois (IL)
62454
Plays: Guitar (11 years)
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Thanks Achoo from down state!
Wed Aug 21 '13 7:55:16 pm Set this message as last read

Chuckinator13
Charles Quagliana
Tonawanda, NY
USA
Plays: Other (45 years)
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Hi I used to work at SIR SF during the nineties and I was there for the rehearsals for The Extremist. I noticed that you are coming to UB Center for the Arts in October. I am now in Buffalo. I am back in the music business, working as a repair tech at The Guitar Factory in West Seneca. I recently tried to contact Mike Manning to no avail. I had Gary B. send my email adress to him. I recently purchased a JS-20S and I would very much like for you to sign it while you are here in Buffalo/Amherst. I live very close to UB and I will be getting tickets to the show for me, my grlfriend and my guitar player. I would actually like to have you sign it before soundcheck so then I won't have to take the day off work! Thanks CJQ
Wed Aug 21 '13 8:16:29 pm Set this message as last read

Do The Stu
Austin Lewis, III
Costa Mesa, CA
United States
Plays: Bass (25 years)
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Hi everyone... So the US tour kicks off a week from tonight...are any other T2Jers going to the first show, or am I the only one?

campbell - We're getting closer to the Orpheum show, so here's a friendly reminder to send me an e-mail once you have your travel plans worked out. I'll send you something in a minute, to the address in your profile. I still hope we're able to meet up.

...Austin...

Wed Aug 21 '13 8:21:11 pm Set this message as last read

achoo
Tobias Barnes
Chicago, Illinois
United States
Plays: Guitar (33 years)
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Yeah something fishy about those tickets, I tell ya. Just happy to see Joe period. And don't know about buying a washing machine but I do know about dental upkeep. Spent a fortune on replacing old fillings, cleanings and braces over the last two years. I just paid my final bill on the remaining balance of my braces this past week. Took me two years to pay them off. Fillings are expensive but I know a guy in Chicago that will hook anybody up for a hot $75 a pop. This guy has come in handy. Another spot for $45 a cleaning, but the braces I had to pay full price for. My teeth are looking great though and I should have these puppies off by Jan or Feb. Not looking forward to the retainer though.

Commander: you're welcome. Don't be a stranger (I should be the one to talk lol)

Do The Stu: Didn't you live in the Midwest before? Coulda swore I ran in to you at a concert in Chicago back dem dayz.

This tour is gonna be great. Went to a lot of concerts this year. Most recently Ghostface Killa of Wu-Tang, had 9th row at Gipsy Kings 2 weeks ago, Bone Thugs N Harmony on Monday and Joe Satch on the 18th. I've been blessed.

Cant complain...really expensive though...MUSIC IS MY DRUG(and I'm a fiend)!!!

*Forgot about Rakim, Raekwon, Eric Sermon, Redman, and Kieth Murray earlier this year. Gotta see when Badfish(Sublime tribute)/Scotty Don't are coming. Love to watch/hear them play.*

Edited Wed Aug 21 '13 11:50 pm

Wed Aug 21 '13 11:36:51 pm Set this message as last read

cheese101

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I really need to find Michelle's bat story and print it off for a co-worker here who is having a similiar experience :D
Thu Aug 22 '13 11:19:09 am Set this message as last read

LNA_FX
Stéphane ELLENA
France
Plays: Guitar (29 years)
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Hello Joe, it's Stef from LNA Guitar Effects.

At your concert in Paris, Patrick Rondat has given to you his Signature Distortion we have created together, and i would like to know your first impressions ! (i was at your concert too, it was fantastic, congrats..!!)

If you prefer talk directly to Patrick i will understand :)

Feel free to contact me if you want,

Best regards,

Stef
LNA Guitar Effects
www.lnafx.com
contact@lnafx.com


Edited Thu Aug 22 '13 1:14 pm

Thu Aug 22 '13 1:13:22 pm Set this message as last read

Do The Stu
Austin Lewis, III
Costa Mesa, CA
United States
Plays: Bass (25 years)
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achoo - Nope, I've lived in California longer than I've been a Satch fan. Most of my relatives live in the greater St. Louis area, though, so I'm pretty familiar with the midwest in general...maybe you just remember me talking about it?


cheese101 - Ask and you shall receive.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaa!!

OooOOOooOOOoohhh

:-)

...Austin...

Edited Thu Aug 22 '13 6:07 pm

Thu Aug 22 '13 6:06:16 pm Set this message as last read

achoo
Tobias Barnes
Chicago, Illinois
United States
Plays: Guitar (33 years)
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Cool but I do remember you from this site, know I'm not going crazy. Cool to see that some of the old school cats are still around...cheers...
Thu Aug 22 '13 11:18:17 pm Set this message as last read

michelle

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cheese, I had a hockey stick with a ball net (a net that holds bballs, footballs, etc...) on the end of it as my bat catcher, and a 5 gallon bucket. Good ol' Henry. lol!

Fri Aug 23 '13 5:33:12 am Set this message as last read

cheese101

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Thanks Austin and chelle-belle, I have printed it off and handed it to my co-worker....I believe I'll hear barking laughs any moment now.....LOL!!!!
Fri Aug 23 '13 11:51:29 am Set this message as last read
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