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trutina
Bil McKim
Plays: Well with others
Plays: Guitar (29 years)
1033 posts total | IP Logged

I don’t really know how to start this. This is the umpteenth time I’ve sat down to write this and I’m just as clueless as ever on how to say this. I am writing this to apologize to everyone here. I have failed all of you miserably. I haven’t had internet access for over a year so that is the reason I haven’t said this much sooner. Over the past year and a half I have been in a very grim financial state. Being unable to work for such a long period of time finally drained me of every thing I had. I don’t want to bore any of you with details but one of the highlights was a near foreclosure on my house (I secured another mortgage thanks to my Dad and delivered a certified check to the foreclosure attorneys less than twenty hours before my home was to be auctioned off.) I had to sell my other property, all of my race stuff, bikes, trailer, gear and tools. Sold most of my guitar stuff (still can’t afford strings, still playing on the ones I put on a year ago), and of course eliminated all the extras like cable, telephone, cell phone and internet as well as occasionally doing without utilities for a week or so at a time. It hurts and embarrasses me to say this, but here goes: I used the money that I was supposed to produce the T2J CD with to buy food and keep the heat on last winter. Please don’t think I’m using my situation as an excuse, because in my opinion, what I’ve done is inexcusable. My problems don’t excuse my actions and I only mention them to offer an explanation, not to seek pity. I can’t tell you how sorry I am that I allowed this to happen. I don’t blame any or all of you if you are angry or upset with me, I would be too and believe me, I’m very angry with myself. I should have turned over control of the project long before things went this far and this is my greatest regret. I’m sorry for letting all of you guys down and I don’t even feel I’m worthy of forgiveness so I won’t ask for it. At this point I don’t know how I can go about paying this debt back, but somehow I will, little by little, I just need to figure out how. I miss you guys terribly and think of you daily. I’ve even written two songs about you guys but of course I have no way of getting them online and probably won’t for quite some time. I’m writing this at home on Word and will burn it to a disc and send it from my brother’s house next time I visit him. I hope to occasionally be able to use his computer so if anyone wants to contact me, email me at trutina2000@yahoo.com and I’ll eventually get back to you, but it might take several weeks or possibly even longer. My brother doesn’t live that close to me and with gas prices what they are I can’t visit near as often as I like. There’s so much more I want to say but I’ve taken up enough space, probably a bunch of newbies here that have no idea who I am anyway. Again, I’m sorry for failing you guys, failing Joe and failing myself. Words can’t describe how shallow and empty I’ve felt. Take care everyone, I hope all is well with all of you.

Quote of the day: “From the body of one guilty deed, a thousand ghostly fears and haunting thoughts proceed.” Wordsworth

Sat Oct 1 '05 7:41:35 pm Set this message as last read

dakook
Rick Shedd
Dana Point, California
USA
Plays: Guitar (48 years)
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TRUTINA,,life has its way of taking us to our KNEES,,ive experienced that sooo many times & continue that to this day. I personally understand what you have been through. It takes a BIGGER man to admit & accepct YOUR situation as it might be in your eyes than a man that does not!! The fact that you came forward and explained YOUR situation is an AWESOME thing in MY eyes. CHRIST once said,,"HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN..LET HIM CAST THE FIRST STONE".. Now THAT is poetry in my eyes!! I could cry,,no matter what the situation is,,YOU STEPPED FORWARD LIKE A MAN AND ADMITTED YOUR DOWNFALL!! Is is right??,,NO,,& you know that,,My friend,,in my eyes you are FORGIVEN,,in others eyes on here?? NOT TOO SURE ABOUT THAT,,FOR ME,,YES!! I think we should ALL PITCH in and save the project & let this man contribute what he has to offer when he's back on his feet,,GOD BLESS YOU BROTHER...DAKOOK
Sat Oct 1 '05 8:04:49 pm Set this message as last read

Stevee T

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trutina...you're back...so glad to see your name again....life can throw us some big loads of shit...I understand how bad it can get...don't be a stranger...I'm pulling for you, as I'm sure many of us are! thanks for telling it to us straight!

cheese101...thanks...have a great time with Joe tomorrow!

Edited Sat Oct 1 '05 8:26 pm

Sat Oct 1 '05 8:22:14 pm Set this message as last read

michelle

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Well spank my ass and call me Charlie! look who it is!

Bil, You broke my heart my brother.

It's good to see you post again and explain things. My wish for you is that the truth will set you free.

Sat Oct 1 '05 8:27:36 pm Set this message as last read

death cube k

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trutina well good to see ya. any how contact Dave , Chris , or myself,
Sat Oct 1 '05 8:43:48 pm Set this message as last read

Mahavishnu
Brian Currier
Newberg, Oregon
US
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Hi trutina , we all have done things we wish we could do over. I admire your honesty!

If I remember right He was real sick awhile ago was he not anyone?? I can spare a few dollars , does anyone know his address so I can send him some money to help him out?? Maybe some of you will too!!

Sat Oct 1 '05 9:14:43 pm Set this message as last read

OCPS470
Chris Peters
Lake Mary, FL
USA
Plays: Guitar (28 years)
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Trutina: It's too bad that you have "problems." That money "however" was never to be looked at as money that was yours to use. If you recall, guys like Phrydom (who had severe financial problems at the time of T2JCD #1) paid into the project just like everyone else....guys that couldn't afford to do so, and you stole from them. Frankly, as far as I'm concerned you're lucky that the project was disorganized enough to prevent me from pressing charges against you for fraud. I expect you to pay back what you stole in full, at the very least to the red cross, or one of the members running the T2J CD2 project that everyone agrees is trustworthy.

WEBMASTER: I don't know about everybody else, but I'd like to see Bil banned from T2J for life.....the guy is a crook. Sorry for being harsh, but nothing excuses how wrong Bil's actions are.

Sat Oct 1 '05 9:28:58 pm Set this message as last read

death cube k

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OCPS470 i second your motion!
Sat Oct 1 '05 9:32:44 pm Set this message as last read

McDave

Cook, MN

Plays: Guitar (40 years)
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You're right, that was a bit harsh. Just how much $$$ are we talking about, that would demand that he be banned from this place? Everybody deserves a second chance. At least he had the sack to come back here and explain himself.
Sat Oct 1 '05 9:40:55 pm Set this message as last read

hoiguy79
Josue Vázquez
Tulancingo, Hidalgo
México
Plays: Guitar (27 years)
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WOOD QUESTION??? Can a guitar (electric or acustic) be made of almug wood?? If someone here knows something about this wood info will be very appreciated =).
Sat Oct 1 '05 9:41:13 pm Set this message as last read

death cube k

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SupaaDave email me, i will fill you in. mark@talk2joe.com
Sat Oct 1 '05 9:49:11 pm Set this message as last read

PhryDom
Dave
Atlanta, GA
USA
Plays: Guitar (45 years)
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trutina i don't believe practically a single word of your post. and i also think it will be very much sooner than "several weeks" before you read this.

i *do* believe that you were/are broke. but i certainly do not accept your "apology" for stealing from what (we thought) were your friends, and consequently stole from a charity.

i have looked at dates and times and decided not to say this here before now, but your "miranda" (if she ever existed) received her "engagement ring" within literally FIVE DAYS of you emptying the Talk2Joe PayPal account... yes, it could be a coincidence, i guess...

you mention nothing of your "life-threatening" illness... are you suddenly cured? or did our money help you? maybe you should be saying thank you and not sorry...?

you mention nothing about the countless voicemails people left for you... which means you DID have phone service.... all you had to do in your -don't-have-a-job state was pick the thing up....

you said "with gas prices what they are I can’t visit near as often as I like" that's a shame if it is true, but surely there's a public library closer? where you can stay in touch with the people you stole from? you have a car? you don't sound too broke to me... my wife and i both work and we can't afford a car, let alone gas prices....

you also looked pretty well and not-exactly-poor in the photo that was posted some time ago, when you were in line to meet Joe to get something signed....

so you wrote your message at home, on a computer which is surely a luxury? and you burned your Word document to a blank CD in order to take to your "brother"'s so you/he could upload it? You have a computer at home. It has a CD burner. And you have blank CDs. I am so sorry, you must really be suffering.

You're a helluva lot better off than some, and you're still crying and pleading poverty?

YES i am very angry and upset, and YES i think OCPS and DCK have a VERY good point.... ban this thief

supaa the entire "show" was a charade... even to the extent that Joe thought T2J was going to be a covers project, that's why he personally approved the publishing rights from Strange Beautiful Music to us... we've not used them (yet), but we will, and we'll do it without a thieving, lying, attention & sympathy-seeking piece of crap like William McKim.....



Edited Sat Oct 1 '05 10:08 pm

Sat Oct 1 '05 10:02:20 pm Set this message as last read

kd6aaj
Ed Burton KD6AAJ
Eureka (In the Redwoods), California
USA
Plays: Guitar (44 years)
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Wow, I missed that one. Well... I only joined in what, February?

Anyhow, I just spent 4 hours scanning the posts. I need to check back more often. Last time it took 8 whole hours to read.

Would be cool to be able to subscribe to a daily e-mail of the day's post, like some sites. Oh, well. This is more personal.

E-bay is awsome..E-bay sucks too!!! I only lost $15 to some guy in Florida. He was banned by E-bay!!! :<)

Love you all,

Ed, KD6AAJ

Sat Oct 1 '05 10:37:48 pm Set this message as last read

Zenfish

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Sat Oct 1 '05 11:50:13 pm Set this message as last read

962
Simon
Granada, Andalucia
Spain
Plays: Guitar (24 years)
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trutina, I thought you used to go round to your neighbour's place and use their computer 'cause you never had a net connection anyway?

I dunno man, this all kinda sucks. T2J has just turned really, really unpleasant. Oh well, I think I'll try and let this one pass me by :-(

Sun Oct 2 '05 1:29:53 am Set this message as last read

alexandrecaetano
Alexandre Caetano
Caldas da Rainha, Estremadura
Portugal
Plays: Guitar (32 years)
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TRUTINA - Glad to see you alive but you didn`t mention nothing about your ilness. Strange, i thought that you was dead or with many health problems and that you expended the money with your health. Many times i asked about you, you was a good friend but you frustrated many persons here. I´m a little upset with you but I´m happy to see you alive and better. If my money gave you food, no problem about that but i can`t speak for the others.Take care Bill.

Edited Sun Oct 2 '05 1:45 am
Sun Oct 2 '05 1:33:41 am Set this message as last read

Blue_Moon
Alan McKenna
Dublin
Ireland
Plays: Guitar (23 years)
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hey hey hey
Sun Oct 2 '05 2:37:42 am Set this message as last read

guitarcryin
neil donnie
casablanca,
morroco
Plays: Guitar (27 years)
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hi(master) joe ,you are the best i am a big fan morrocan. I have your every albums. i see you in france 7/1/04 in g3 with robert fripp ( set: hands in air-searchig-satch boogie-war-cool#9-flying in a blue dream -is there love in space) my adresse e-mail is guitar-hero@hotmail.com my website photo blog is http://satch07.skyblog.com (97% a tribute to satch)

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Sun Oct 2 '05 2:55:31 am Set this message as last read

Two Shay

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Dakook

I apologise if any of my poems have offended you, although I really can't see why they would.

Having said that, can you tell us a little more specifically what you are upset about. I understand the antipathy towards the use of the 'C' word as I also find the use of it in this forum distasteful, but just about everything else (as far as I could see) was a bit of fun. The world could do with a few more smiles!

Peace and best wishes to you.

Keep rocking,

Steve.

Sun Oct 2 '05 3:32:40 am Set this message as last read

Two Shay

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T2J CD people

All the to do over the T2J 1 CD has reminded me about the T2J2 CD, Any news?

Steve.

Sun Oct 2 '05 3:48:51 am Set this message as last read

Master Yoda
Neil Morgan
York, North Yorkshire
England
Plays: Guitar (30 years)
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Captain Seve - I think the "to do" is actually regarding the second installment of the T2J CD...

OCPS/DCK/PhrygDom - Whilst your opinions and grievances may (or indeed may not) be justified regarding this matter, I think it highly insensitive of all of you to post such things in such a public forum as this, especially considering BIl's apparent remorse and the sheer balls it took to come here and very publicly admit and apologise for his actions.

AussieRG - That is of course bad news re. the Bali bombings. But what about all the other people who died that are not from Australia; are their lives worth less? I'm not having a go at all, it just grates on me a little when people talk like that. It happens here in the news, too. For example, in the aftermath of hurricane Katrina I remember one news reader or another saying that there was X amount of people dead, including X amount of Britons. Personally I don't care where they're from - they're people who died. That's what counts in my book. Please understand I'm not having a go - these bombings are terrible - I'm just sharing an opinion really... lol :-)

NM

Sun Oct 2 '05 4:36:51 am Set this message as last read

aussieRGman
Jason Ramsay
planet nowra, NSW
Australia
Plays: Guitar (48 years)
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Master Yoda, no worries mate, just that with the last bali bombins ie 3 years ago, aussies took most of the body count, true it doesnt really mater where ur from were still from the same planet ( exept for joe , Im sure he's an alien) i wish this idiots doing the bombings weather in balli or else where realizes were only here for a short time in the history of the planet, and mother nature is the biggest terrorist of all, we could all get wiped out by an asteroid, and all this fighting over a bitt of land, or religion or whatever? wtf for? doesnt make sense to me half the time u know what i mean...

peace to all and all bring peace.. lifes too short keep on rocking for the free world

Sun Oct 2 '05 4:42:38 am Set this message as last read

SlickPotatoHead
Iain Robertson
Blairdrummond, Stirling
Scotland
Plays: Guitar (24 years)
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Hey eveeryone, i been away for a while, PARTYIN!!! so havent had any time to post, just checkin up on ya!

Anyone gettin the xbox 360??

Sun Oct 2 '05 4:57:00 am Set this message as last read

ben_366

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Hi! My name is Benoit Guénette. I'm from Québec, Canada. I just join your fanclub. I knew who was "Joe Satriani" before but I just discover your music. I play guitar for several years now and I finally found my "mentor" ( I'm surely not the first to say that ). I was looking for video lessons on the web but it's hard to find good ones or a full version of one. I think it could be an idea to put some of your lessons on your site for members like me. Please, tell me what you think about it; I'll be glad to recive your answer. Thank you for reading me,

Benoit Guénette.

Sun Oct 2 '05 5:10:51 am Set this message as last read

michelle

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song of the day: BREAK STUFF by Limp Bizkit

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Sun Oct 2 '05 6:49:03 am Set this message as last read
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