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Ben Kenobi
Australia
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Clarky: the tricky bit is getting back to the original "speed" I often find!
Silmarien: exams start in 3 weeks, but all my assignments are due in the meantime. (AAARRRGGGHHH!!!) I hate not knowing whether I passed or not, but if you tried hard to study, and tried hard in the exam then you can't feel guilty. Just let down. (if you fail I mean)
Dave: favourite smell - white chocolate
Trutina: drunk people would get grog delivered and Mr Delivery would get abused/beaten/shot.
happy days! BEN
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Wed May 14 '03 7:50:27 pm
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Don Cutler
Washington
USA
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To Dave at talk 2 Joe.
Your return response to my up load to the Talk2joe site was to say the least "rude". So heres mine. KISS MY ASS.
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Wed May 14 '03 8:32:38 pm
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Chris Peters
Lake Mary, FL
USA
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Clarky: haven't gotten the remix yet, but trutina did so mine's close
JSClone1: thanks a bunch man! If there's one thing that I think I do well on the guitfiddle it's playing very cleanly. I've got more stuff if you're interested.
Matt:I think Joe's smooth album sound is the result of several things. In albums before EOC when joe was still using a DS1 into a 6100 in the studio(same as live rig) he was still recording to tape and micing his amps, possibly with tube mics, both creating a smoother sound. Live uses an SM57 to mic, probably recorded digital and probably played with lower amp volumes making for a less smooth sound. Also, in EOC and SBM Joe's said he used the Cornford hurricane (SBM) and fender bassmans(EOC) almost exclusively, both are lower wattage amps, and I think in the case of the Cornford, joe was driving it for distortion instead of using the DS1, this would also create a smoother sound.
I will say though, that mic placement is CRUCIAL. try micing the upper left speaker of your 4X12 putting the mic about 2 inches away, then move it left of center till it sounds warm enough. Hope all that helps. That's why I dig the PODPRO, it has a Soldano model that gets me a very smooth high gain bridge tone, like EJ with more definition.
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Wed May 14 '03 8:56:05 pm
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Marcus Quito
Rio de Janeiro, RJ
Brazil
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I do believe Joe shaved his head to look more like the Silver Surfer. He would even have covered himself with chrome if he could...
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Wed May 14 '03 9:20:48 pm
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VFRrocker
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TRUTINA -Nice appropriate quotes dude, a new day and a kick up the butt from Dave has lead me to view the situation in a more, shall we say philosophical way ;-) I thought perhaps this would have been appropriate for me Ordinarily he was insane, but he had lucid moments when he was merely stupid.Heinrich Heine (1797 - 1856)
As for beer delivery, well you need to be a regular but it can be done. I used to drive taxi's in the evenings and as it was for a small firm they were fairly flexible, i used to end up going to off licences and take-away places that didn't deliver or even down to the garage to get cigarettes, then just charge the cost of the taxi on top of the goods when delivered. Now that's what i call service, as for getting beat up / shot etc, trying picking up from the night clubs at 02.30am on a Sunday morning, i'd rather deliver beer ;-) Great smell man, and why does that come as no suprise -lol -or course if you didn't suffer from short-term memory loss you would have remembered to buy the beer in the first place - lmao
PHRYDOM - Being rude to people ? tsk, tsk, although from the ruthless self promotion ethic that you attributed to these late comers, climber seems a most appropriate nick - lol
MATT Dude, i checked your link, you're a promising you musician, don't throw your life away on drugs -lmao
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Wed May 14 '03 10:23:49 pm
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Sharif Jameel
Parkville, Maryland
USA
Plays: Guitar (30 years)
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R6rocker I am also currently purchasing a house...talk about a pain in the ass. I am still fighting with the owner over repairs that she should make before I buy the house, we've already agreed on a price and signed the contract, but when we do the home inspection, I find many things wrong with the house that need to be fixed. She refuses to fix things that any responsible homeowner never would have let run down int he first place. Not to mention the stress of the 100 pages that you have to read and sign from the bank for the Mortage loan...it goes on and on and on.
Matt very funny on the Techno...it's funny our band jokes around like that sometimes into the mics when we play...sometimes it comes out not sounding half bad with a good guitar riff over it. Hey is there a spot towards the end where you start to laugh? I thought I heard it...
Cy'all! Sharif
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Wed May 14 '03 11:01:09 pm
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VFRrocker
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SHARIF - You can see why moving house is cited as one of the most stressful things that you can do in your life. I'm trying to be a bit calmer about it all today ;-) Even in your case, as with mine, if you didn't like the house / area you wouldn't want to live there in the first place, so i'm just trying to picture us being moved in and settled again. Hope it all smooths out for you bro', just keep looking for the light at the end of the tunnel - lol
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Do The Stu
Austin Lewis, III
Costa Mesa, CA
United States
Plays: Bass (25 years)
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Argh... r6rocker already made the Apocalypse Now joke. I guess that's what I get for posting before reading all of T2J. So I'll change my favorite smell to "That smell...can't you smell that smell?"...
migupais - Have you seen the Reel Satriani video? It's a short documentary about the making of Joe's self-titled album. If you watch it, you basically see Joe write the song If in less than 30 minutes. It's insane...he's too good! ;-)
ianjf - The webcast can't be turned into a DVD because it wasn't filmed in quality suitable for release. The webcast feed was compressed.
I don't like techno music, but I loved EOC. I think I like it because I knew what to expect before hearing it. Also, I bought the album only a week or two before I saw Joe live (4/12/00, opening night of the EOC tour). So I immediately had a live introduction to several songs on the album, and I was able to like them in a new way.
mick87 - Have you heard Dave and Tim's new song, Stay Or Leave? It's unreleased, and was played on the DM/TR tour that they just did. It's a slower song, and the playing isn't technical by any means...but I REALLY like it.
...Austin...
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Thu May 15 '03 12:40:25 am
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Ian Finlayson
Athboy, Co. Meath
Ireland
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Serak - Id say that Heineken or Joe's crew have that concert recorded in Digital Format and then webcast it compressed in web format. So they should be able to make a DVD. But even if they werent Joe might still put one together like LISF.
I know what you are saying about the EOC. I suppose it depends on when you heard them really??? The first time I heard/saw Joe was on the G3 DVD. I then proceeded to buy the LISF DVD which is my absolute favourite. Then got Time Machine which has a Live DVD with it. Then SBM which is similar in style and then EOC which was just like way out there you know, so I suppose I just found it so different to what I was used to with Joe....
Ian.
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Thu May 15 '03 2:08:48 am
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AkikoShyBoy
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Hey Joe!
What's up?
ahhh...
I'm in studio now and doing muscular training and exercise stuff.
Ovation 1 : My hair??? The color of my hair is bright Brown now. My hair stylist is one of top hair stylist in Tokyo.
Paul Gilbert? I used to listen to RacerX : EXTREME VOLUME 2 a lot.
We can see him on Japanese kids pop TV show.
It seems that he looks like a litte boy on TV show these days.
I don't know yet whether go to his show.
Narface : Don't you grow your hair to long hair?(Just kidding) I think that grey color is look cool.
take care.
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Thu May 15 '03 2:11:02 am
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Narface
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Wow! Have any of you seen the Joe Satriani Anthology?? It's a tab book with 29 satch songs in it! Plus, it's got interviews and Satch quotes! Amazing! I think I'll start saving for this wonderful book!
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Thu May 15 '03 2:18:35 am
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Dave
Atlanta, GA
USA
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rokin guitar feeling I haven't heard anything from Tom since way back when, but he was definitely original, creative and fresh sounding.
Lord Of Karma6 yes! I noticed that too! I remember at the gig I thought he was going to play the whole track!!!
trutina your honesty will probably get you into trouble! Especially in here! LOL!!! But good answer nonetheless ;-)
Benny forgot to say yesterday - I can re-encode those to smaller files if you want...?
r6r rude? man, i'll forward my reply to you.... but what can one expect when they send two huge files in the wrong format to the wrong person with no warning, accompanied by a subject line of "good or not?" Jeez... it's also sad to see people resorting to abuse when they have acted foolishly!
Narface that sounds pretty cool!
Later everyone, Dave :-)
EDIT: Spelinge ;-)
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Paul Huxley
Guildford, Surrey
England
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Joe You going to see The Matrix Reloaded tonight?
Everyone else in America- go and make it a big opening weekend, it'll be thoroughly entertaining, even if it is slightly confusing- and talk to me if you're confused about how x, y, or z can be so... I've had a while to contemplate such things. Just go watch it, it'll rule!
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Michael Phariss
Hayward, CA
USA
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Can't sleep/ Just a reminder to all you PS2 owners: ENTER THE MATRIX goes on sale tommorow everywhere. If you are in San Francisco support THE PLAYSTATION store at METREON and go buy one at 10am when they open.
Cool new from your PLAYSTATION employee here and you all get to hear it first: PS2 is having a price drop. As of this past Tuesday SONY announced that the price is $179.99!! ! Also at E3 on Tuesday Sony announced that they are entering the handheld game market with thier own system to be available somtime at the end of 2004.
Hope everyone has a great day! I have jury duty: WHOOPIE!!!
Joe: Hope everything is cool with you. I just bought The Extremist and heard CRYIN'. Man........you really make me want to pick up my guitar and practice so I can make music like that. Amazing job! And Doug Doppler is one heck of a player, good job!!
"I don't have althimers. I have sometimers. Sometimes I remember stuff. Sometimes I don't."- My Nana, Isabelle 1928-2001
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Mr Nick
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phrydom..what videos you got? email me a list of ones that you think i might like :/ are they music videos or porn videos? :P lol
favourite smell...hmm...smell of chloroform...nothing sends you to sleep better..lol
reel satriani video...too many things to buy...not enough time..not enough money...cant be bothered though to get them....but i'm not lazy, i'm just an active sleeper :)
these damn filters at school..this is the only site i visit at home that i can visit here at school....all the other message boards are blocked..grrr...
2nd edit - back at home now :)
matt king....lol..with a bit of marketing i bet that'll make number 1 in the charts here in the uk!!
have to check out matt's strogbad song when i get home...
now time to vist random sites and if anything vaguely interesting turns up..i'll let you know ;) :P :)
stupid site
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Thu May 15 '03 4:05:18 am
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ovation1
Mikey D in da house
Satch = ZEN
Land Of The Rising Sun
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Narface: lol....Those are some muscle cars!!....That site is pretty kuul....There's a bunch of videos of owners talking about their cars and how they fixed them up....Cool stuff....
r6rocker: Hope it work's out for ya bro....I'd feel the same way!!....Too bad you arent in the U.S....Judge Judy would kick some ass!!....lol....
Hi Naty :-)....You've made the T2Joe Project a Masterpiece!!
DAVE....Fave smell......Hmmmm....I love the smell of summer by the Ocean....And my other fave smell I can't say on here, lol ;-)
slanshroom: Thank's bro!!....I'll send you an email....
elpp: You've heard of Mike Stern I'm sure (lol, every member on the board is saying: "Oh no....ovation is talking about Mike Stern again!"....he, he, he)....Radio suck's....Here anyway.... We are fed 1 U.S. Station on the radio...."Today's Hit's....And Yesterday's favorites"....AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!....They own maybe 6 cd's!!!!!!!
trutina: We had Delivery Beer in Cali (It was a little more expensive, but worth it!!)....There's your niche bro'!!....Open a beer Delivery store man!!....lol....
Sharif: Good luck on your home purchase too....I feel for ya....
Akiko: lol, you should'nt miss Paul's show!! ;-)....And your right..Paul look's funny when he is on those shows....He just sit's there listening to everyone talk until it's time to play....He has been an incredible inspiration and teacher for the Japanese people, and he does it selflessly....A real good hearted guy that just happens to be an awesome guitar player, lol....
mattking: I'm gonna check that link out in a sec....
I got an email from Jonathan Mover!!....He said, "As far as playing with Joe Satriani again??....You never know".... He sounded to me like he wanted to play for JOE again, and said all that other stuff was water under the bridge....If JOE, Stoooooooo and Jonathan made a kickass album and tour together, we just may have World Peace within our lifetime like JOE said we would (NOTE jacket said so, lol)!!>>>>>>
JOE....Give Jonathan a call!!
Nite all,
/\/\ike
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ovation1
Mikey D in da house
Satch = ZEN
Land Of The Rising Sun
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mattking: Real kuul stuff man!! Some of your best stuff yet!!....
Nice beats and rhythm section, and the solo....What can I say, lol.... ;-)
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Thu May 15 '03 5:36:04 am
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ovation1
Mikey D in da house
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Land Of The Rising Sun
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BTW....
JOE: Give JONATHAN MOVER a call!! You need a polyrhythm, cross between John Bonham and Neil Peart, kickass drummer to bring your playing to the plateau!!....World Peace awaits!!!! :-).... Love ya JOE
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Clarky
Paul Clark
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ovation - all this talk of Marie and Daisy... jeez I have an album to complete and I'm all distracted now... I must focus on the task at hand... but my bairly adequate psychic defences are crumbling..
ibanick - If you publish 'all' my posts and publish it as a music book it'll make for pretty interesting reading... chapter 1 - fundamental principles of music, chapter 2 - battering a woman with a jerry can and a sink whilst taking her from behind, chapter 3 - the art of modulation, chapter 4 - blowing lager and kebab chunks in a taxi made somple, chapter 5 - chord inversions and extensions, chapter 6 - car park fights and general weirdness, chapter 7 - how to be a gonzo shredder... lol
The clever part would be finding a university that would make this into a degree course...
"it's a fine line between stupid and clever"....
So I keep a foot on both sides of this line... lmao..
When the urgency for my writing and recording has tailed off a little then I'll carry on with the theory posse stuff from where I left off...
The modes were to the best of my knowledge named after Greek tribes.. but not by classical scholars.. the modes and modal music pre-dates the classical era by many hundreds of years.. their origin is, I'm led to believe, not well understood.
phryg - think of it as using an effect pedal... maybe you don't want a flanger running through the whole tune but the is a moment when you need one, so you turn it on, do your thing, and turn it off and carry on with the song...
Twisting time around by using cross rhythmic evices is the same... you are momentarily creating an effect to contrast the overall rythmic meter or theme... so you turn it on.. and turn it off....
or maybe this analogy is just making shit worse... should I just shut up and point you at someone clever to explain it properly.. lol
Stu Clone - your description of cross rhythm is spot on... a picture is a thousand words...
the the normal 6/8 count is
one - and - er, two - and - er
the cross rhythm count for 6/8 becomes
one - and, two - and, three - and
but note, this is only one cross rhythmic method...
mr manzer... long time no hear from....
yoda - no probz bro... I'll talk to the authorities and sort out a date... I'll pick you up too...
trutina - the reason, I think, that the new mix has better 'separation', is that I re-compressed and re-eq'd everything... working out 'where' each individual instrument lives in the audio specrum is quite an art - one I'm beginning learn.. you can make an instrument appear to be louder without changing it's volume by messing with the eq alone.. I've always been aware of this but I've never had to do it for myself... 'cos that's the sound engineers job and up 'till now my recording methods have always been very crude... the AW16 has forced me to look deeper into this side of things so that I really can get the best out of it.... as time goes on I'll be getting much better at mixong down and mastering... it's fun stuff to learn actually...
Artanis - gettig back to the original speed is tricky, but it's just a matter of using the smae mechanism - but in reverse... and then practicing the hell out of it with the band....
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