mullin12
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Detroit Fillmore 12/17. Have been fan since first album. I believe the Fillmore is “potentially” a great venue b/c of its small size. However, the evening was poorly planned/managed. Assuming the prospective of gaining new fans while maintaining older loyal fans; I might have run the show a bit tighter. The newer fans are younger and looking for a crisp/clean organized product they identify through their most important media source, internet. The huge talent and range of JS has the potential to capture this audience.
The product begins with media presentation and the website is good and offers the techy younger crowd an avenue to search and learn more about JS. Once curiosity is triggered they might attend a concert which is key to success for musicians today. The younger fans aren’t buying cd’s, their downloading--free. This is where JS holds potential for great revenue in live performance. Once they buy the ticket and attend they are the ones most likely to spend more money or attend another show and buy JS stuff-- advertising!!
So, JS needs to entertain from the minute they walk through the door. Catch their eye with a huge Satch poster at the entrance or music playing. Whatever it takes to engage them from the very beginning. Once seated they’re looking for stage presence; clean, colorful, shapes, deep contrast and instruments--- something to catch their eye and look for the phenom they’ve discovered that no one else knows about.
For the Detroit show the staff wasn’t even wearing JS shirts. On arrival, only the billboard listing outside said JS, nothing else to feed my brain for what it wanted to see and hear. Even the “memorabilia” table was shabby and reminded me of a second rate scam outfit. This is a potential revenue generator and for sure, young people wearing JS shirts triggers new fans. But again, nothing to tempt the appetite to dig in and engage the upcoming performance. If you can engage them before a note of music is played the music will sound that much better and hook the potential fan—the customer, the food on the JS family dinner table.
So, I was escorted to my seat, (front row box) by a nice staff member—probably the classiest part of the show (outside of the guit playing). Next, the stage appearance. The stage was cluttered and colorless (outside of the lights which themselves poor). There is a difference b/t cluttered and drab and “small/quaint” venue. The former a lack of creativity, the latter a potential barn burner.
The warm up band, OMG, I had to check my ticket to see if I was in the right place. JS, unless offering a opener, should by virtue of his years on stage do a solo show with perhaps an intermission. Much like Rush. I took my daughter, 12 y.o., a musician, and a first timer at a JS concert. She looked at me concerned. I think worried that the whole show might be like the opener. I reassured her. However, no disrespect intended to the opening act. They worked hard and gave it their best.
On to the main act. As I recollect, they ran out to positions, no drama, no JS chord. The rhythm guitarist’s instrument was the first guitar I saw. Not well staged or managed. Billed as an ultimate guitarist, the opening should bring him in, if not by site, by sound, organized and not drowned out by poorly managed lighting and support sound. Another quirk was the poor overlit backlighting non-high def. Even the stage equipment was overbearing.
Joe? Well, you are an awesome performer and artist with brilliant stage presence!! A good set list with a mix of the old stuff and new. The old stuff also had refreshing updates. Clearly the problem doesn’t lie with JS, but management. It was as if they threw together a tour for the new release put in a cheap opening act and ran on the road to sell the album. An updated management approach is needed to keep the diehard fans, like me, bring in a new generation of “Alien Surfers”.
Sincerely,
Michael M.
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Fri Dec 17 '10 7:51:46 pm
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achoo1
Tobias Alejandro Barnes
Chicago, IL
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Wow this guy just wrote a thesis.
Yeah, I was hoping that the feel of the concert wouldnt be rushed, and what is up with that new backlight? I found it distracting last time, but once Joe starts shreading all is forgotten Pt. 1 and Pt. 2
Forgive me for my Big Pun...Where my Hip Hopers at?!?!? Holla
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Fri Dec 17 '10 9:08:48 pm
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Crystal Jammer
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Question for all who've been to recent shows: whats the camera policy? Are they allowed or what??? I'm going to the KC uptown theater Monday night show but I'm not gonna bother bringing it if security won't allow. anyone know because the ticketmaster site doesn't say. thanks
_Jammer
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Sat Dec 18 '10 12:25:20 am
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michelle
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Crystal Jammer, I think it depends on the security at the venue. Some ppl can hold a cam up and record every damn song, and others snap a pic and feel a tap on the shoulder. No idea about your venue. In most of the vids I'm seeing from the shows, ppl have either a camera or a phone up in the air. What pisses me off is they allow the phones more than the cameras. I said to a security guy once "Why are you only busting ME when everyone else here is recording too?" His answer was "You have a camera." GRR! I'd take it if I were you. Wait to see how other ppl are doing it, then bust out yer own and go for it.
CHadley, tattoos don't hurt! Yeah, don't ya just love that line? You bet yer sweet bippy they hurt! The one I remembering hurting the most is the biggest one. It's not big per say, maybe 6x6, but the biggest one I have. After about an hour and a half all those nice endorphins wear off and yer tolerance goes to pot. lol! It was on my back shoulder area, and I was holding the front of my chest cause it felt like the needle was coming through. lol! Ahh, good times man, good times! I love tattoos :-) My daughter claims it's the top of her foot that hurt the most.
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Sat Dec 18 '10 6:25:01 am
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achoo1
Tobias Alejandro Barnes
Chicago, IL
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Crystal Jammer
I am going to thte shpw in Chicago on tomorrow (cant wait) and what I did was called the theater where the concert will be held and asked them. They told me disposables and digital are allowed but no professional cameras, so I suggest you call the place where the venue will be held.
Hope that helps...
I've got my new Sony Cybershot h55 charging up as we speak ..er type...whatever...lol
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Sat Dec 18 '10 10:30:06 am
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wolf2
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...No even though i am a wolf 2 I do NOT! EAT DOG FOOD MAN!! i know people that do eat it and it wont kill you i do my husqvarna and atk kibbles and teats and thats all,wolfie.
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Sat Dec 18 '10 11:53:01 am
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wolf2
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.....Bit ,of a so called Bonus here at home for me man yeah!.Like were pretty well out of firewood i have abit incase of a massive storm or something but hey were back to twisting the thermostats electric heat!.Their realy is not too much happening here man went to town earlier,took my mom for a walk! .Came -home bored and going out of my mind so im shotting the reeze wicth you man, haaaaaaaahhhhhhh! what to do? any suggesstions im just gonna relax picture myself being chasitised like my brain and hope the urges to do sumpin go away their was nothing like i mean ZERO happening in the town today man anyways later wolf2 tuesday proteing weider for me i call ron monday back from holidays confirm later wolf2.
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Sat Dec 18 '10 11:58:23 am
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gotta have Joe
Kayla Whitham
Butte, Mt
USA
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Chad- im great thanks! How are you?
I love my tattoo! It makes me happy and everytime I look at it, it reminds me off all I have put into my dreams and so SO much more!
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Sat Dec 18 '10 12:30:54 pm
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Randell Mulligan
Dublin, CA
USA
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GottahaveJoe: Just unscrew the nut that holds the trem mount and replace with one from stewart-Macdonald! You have a JS 100? Still a great guitar. Sorry to hear about your freinds and stuff. Most of the freinds i had during highschool did everything possible to leave everyone behind. It's just a mindset some times for folks.
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Sat Dec 18 '10 1:35:05 pm
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wolf2
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.....Don`t ,Throw momma from the train!,just yet .........mm hmmm,who know just wait but fouck man just listen to me man my other sliders wee garland ejadrediens they um drop the brain for for closed circuit suqare rideing .Anyways my new ones are kimpex their red and their made in Canada i did the rear brakes the sliders the lower crossshaft ideler wheel and a greas job useing my clumer formula ski-doo manual from denniskirk in minnesota .Now the brakes that were on it were a flip! man they were not put together and it was not even resembling what it was suppose to look like put on new vesarah mettalic pads from kimpex 110% perfect new lowere cross shaft idler wheel from motovan mad ein canada the old one was blow for about well...., years! did a grease job about 40 greasease fittings front and back useing home harware unival extreme pressure grease for heavy equipment things that make a circle can be medical hey man like the brakes on the brake disc the trac going around on the sliders i am so back to perfect now man but if i cant like my brain is sized properlire new the garld square tree track sliders are off it ,my brakes and suspensions an wheels are pro did them myself but if i cant remeber my way to my girlfriends huston we have aproblem! what then kinsgton pen 80,000 volts running threw the brain standing up elcetric are over the brain to break the weave annhh ! you never know anyways im just gonna wait but im sure im fine now the dolie sliders are off i should still be able o ride never fear wolf2 is hear ! later wolfie.
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Sat Dec 18 '10 2:29:31 pm
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Crystal Jammer
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Michelle , Achoo1
thanks guys. I'm gonna call the venue, but prolly jst gonna bring it and see what happens like you guys suggest. Just got the cam so don't want it confiscated by security mafia!
Alright, I got about 40 hours left to finish making my Wormhole Shirt and then gotta drive about 3 1/2 hrs to the KC show. From what everyone's been sayin it should be a hella good time! 10 yrs is too long since last seeing joe!
Oh and Achoo1, have a blast at Sunday's show man. I used to live in Chi town and saw the 2000 EOC Easter show there. Great venue and Joe always has a great Chicago show, so enjoy!!
JOE small request for Monday KC show: WORMHOLE WIZARDS Please?!! Heres hoping...
BTW is everyone doing the hand clap chant at the beginning of God Is Crying at the shows....because they SHOULD be! I'm gonna lol
_Jammer
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Sat Dec 18 '10 2:37:44 pm
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michelle
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chrystal jammer, The band gets everyone clapping and singing throughout the entire show. I think Allen wouldn't mind if the audience sang & clapped through the whole show. lol! He's a great motivator! lol! As for yer show, since it's so close to Christmas now, give yerself PLENTY of time to get to the venue. Traffic might be jammed with shoppers and whatnot.I think men don't physically start their Christmas shopping until the 20th. It's an unwritten MAN-LAW. lol!
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Sat Dec 18 '10 2:58:10 pm
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oxley11
Hackensack, NJ
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Hows it goin' in Satchland!!!!
I haven't been on in about a week.
But I did go to Joe's concert on the 14th in NYC. It was absolutely amazing. Joe comes out for the first song(Ice 9) and I'm recording for about 45 seconds before they tell to turn it off. And the guy that told me reeked of alcohol and cigarettes. How wonderful. But the lady who sat 4 chairs away from me recorded the first 7 songs, in full, before they asked her to turn it off. I had to be a little sneakier. So I got up out of my chair about 9 songs in, and stood with all of the people up front and to the sides. There were little elevated points on the sides on the stage where there were stairs. So I stood directly above one of the guards. His back was against the wall which was about where my feet were, so I was close. The guard that stood in that spot for the whole time, was a big guy. Let me tell you, you wouldn't want to mess with that guy. He had big muscles and he was definitely of Indian origin. He looked like that Indian soldier from the movie "Predator", except I think this guy was bigger. Then I started moving around closer to the stage to get pictures. I did a couple of those "run down the aisle and get up against the stage to snap a quick shot" things. Anyway, I had a wonderful time, and I had a great experience. Although I was very surprised that Surfing With The Alien wasn't played
So I'll have the videos up in a couple of minutes.
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Sat Dec 18 '10 4:20:41 pm
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wolf2
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...Will ,you just listen to me man even though i own the country man am 309 years old own kingston penietnatrie and the province even the city where my cardioligist and hospital is fouck man about 14 years ago they told me they couldnt help me medicaly I got sent to the very same cardiolgist before and i even pay for my own healthcare man o i have the same healthcard as everyone mine has something like 14 million or 12 million on it different sectors of the government have different obligments thats because i have buissness bigger then the government anyways when i was 19 from my birth certificate they told me they couldnot do anything for my heart problem because i was AUSTRIAN right man they said i would need to have strength solidiine at kingston penitenatrie i said i own kingston penitenatrie i go their ever 3-8 days she said o know austria has to programe the prison you have to do something that shows your fragment austria programed the prison too look and act and cause trouble and do evrything against me man and the girls did it! so that i could have medical attention because im so strong they were even causeing problems with inmates everyone on my range had a shank shive or blade i got stabbed and punched they wouldnot move me to seg even though guys were putting in letters because my punch test was 312,000 x straonger then the prison after all that i signale that showed canada i do and care about my health etc.My dad is arnold hey he well he works for me as the govenor in california hey! hes ultimate cool he does this austrian medical to me with this strength flexing etc makeing pressures for my heart my dad has always done that i might be okay for along time my dad lures me and tempmtes me to go ride over hey hes great anyways later wolf2.no medical until that becasue austrian great strength im called later wolf2.
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Sat Dec 18 '10 4:48:38 pm
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tikimon
tampa, florida
usa
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i am currently having a turtle with traditional hawiian styling being done on my right shoulder. it is about 8inchs in diameter. up around the neck and collor bone it is ok, but just under on the back ribs is REALLY fugging painful. the 3 hours to ink the out line was bearable but the heavy shading for detail is a bitch. i have a tiki on my right thigh that runs from hip to knee. the only place it was sensitive was where it wraps to outside just above my knee. sat for 7 hours for that then another 4 to shade it.
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Sat Dec 18 '10 5:19:21 pm
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Matt S
WI
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WOO I'm loving life right now!
Satch concert tomorrow night, I am done with school for the semester, we're almost done remodeling our house and just ordered an awesome 60" TV, I've wanted a big screen TV for years! and my mom bought my sister and I laptops!
My mom finished her big project at work, she just got back from their celebration in Orlando, FL. she has worked really hard this year and has earned herself a treat.
I finished my first semester of college and have a month off until next semester. and I'm feelin really good about next semester!
It's almost christmas and lifes been good to me and my family, now I'm in the giving spirit. I am gonna give as much as I can this year. I have had quite the fortune this year and now it's my turn to give back.
Can't wait to go the the concert tomorrow, Have a great holiday guys, and of course you too Joe.
God is not crying tonight!
L8R
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Sat Dec 18 '10 7:58:10 pm
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Grant Stieglitz
Fort Wayne, Indiana
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Hi Everyone:
My last race for the year is done. I ran the 50K (33 miles) this morning. The turnout was pretty good (way more than last year). I improved my time by two minutes and got a time of 5 hours, 9 minutes, and 29 seconds. I was 7th in my age division and 52nd out of 316 overall. The course was really tough with the snow and hills. The legs hurt a lot and I had the wind blowing in my face, along with the cold temperatures. I'm glad I was able to accomplish this ultra-marathon for the second year in a row. Doing this the third time is in question.
Now that the running/race season is over, I can now focus on the JS100 (in [limited edition] white). It needs a few adjustments so I'm ordering some parts sometime in the next week. I'm also working on my voice (singing).
Hope everyone is well, and to those who saw Joe or who is seeing Joe, ROCK ON! \mXm/
Joe, hope things are well for you on your tours.
Later peeps.
Grant
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